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Poor Man's Game – Can Guys Without Money Get Women?

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Fact: women will sleep with poor guys faster than wealthy dudes. In this article, I explain why that is and the vital differences between poor guys and deadbeats.

The Cheap vs. Poor article I wrote a few weeks ago generated some ideas for me as well as for some members of the Girls Chase forum. In that article, I explained the differences between "cheap" behavior and just being poor. I think it’s also valuable to talk about poor game and getting laid without money.

I want to give credit to some of the posters on the forum. They’ve inspired me, providing much of the meat for this post, and the article to follow on gaming with money.

Let me first point out that, in this article, we're only considering sex with non-prostitutes (a rich guy can obviously buy pussy whenever his junk twitches). No, we're talking about getting laid through the art of pickup and seduction, not money-for-sex situations.

If you were to take a sample of a few game-oriented guys, seducers, and naturals, it’s the poor guys who get laid the most and in the shortest time frames.

That may seem counterintuitive to you if you're new around here, but it is so much easier to get laid without money than with money; some say it’s not even comparable. Good news for you poor guys if you're only finding this out now!

As forum member "YS" has pointed out:

“When you're just a free-spirit lover retard running around, everything is so congruent. When you're wearing a three-piece suit, running companies, blowing off fires all day, it’s really hard to just be free and flirty with random college girls (or any woman for that matter).”

I think this is true, which is why we wonder about the types of guys some women end up with. We see hot girls with dudes who look like losers on the surface, but these same guys give her the good feelings (and good sex) she craves.

In general, none of the world’s wealthiest guys are getting laid remotely as well as the carefree, cool pothead on your street, the party-going surfer dude, the starving artist/musician, or your free-spirited traveler nomading in some far corner of the world.

Some guys can’t believe this. They think that broke guys cannot have girlfriends, that you need money after a certain age, that women of a certain caliber don’t date poor men. While that may be true for much of the population, it’s not true for the ladies’ man, for the guys who know how to get laid consistently. There are a few notable examples within the PUA community (for instance, Mystery did not have much money, yet was often with “10” quality strippers, and had relationships with them).

How to Win at Seduction: Maximize Strengths and Minimize Weaknesses

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Not all men are born lady killers. Lucky for us, the seduction community has proven time and again that even YOU can get hot girls by focusing on what you can control.

Because most guys haven’t had success "just being themselves," they think verbal game is the only essential skill in seduction. There’s no possibility that a girl may be waiting to meet a guy who looks like you, right? You’re not good looking, or tall, or rich. There’s zero chance that she may be single, bored, lonely, or horny, and you’re just her type at the right time and place?

It’s the men who don’t try often enough who are the first to cry “Only looks matter!” They have inner-game issues related to their self-image (e.g., I’m ugly). So, I get them to record audio of their approaches with their phones, and unsurprisingly, their conversations are boring: no emotion, no insights, just surface level small talk. Then they wonder why they’re getting phone numbers, but not dates. It must be because they’re so ugly, they figure.

I also get these eccentric guys. They show up dressed like bums, or clowns, with nose hairs jutting out, loose, dirty clothing, or fashion from 1996 hip hop culture. They never run out of things to say, and their conversations are anything but boring. They also believe they’re the most handsome of all men. They have astronomical self-esteem. But the women don’t want anything to do with them because they feel embarrassed being seen with these guys.

So as a coach, I quickly slot men into categories:

And so forth.

Every man can improve himself. But he has to believe it’s possible and be willing to put in the effort.

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As far as these low-self-esteem cases, the one thing they have in common is that they’re “not enough.” They’re just not good enough (in their minds) to get the hot girls. They’re not good-looking enough, and they just don’t know what to say. They think if they could correct one of those issues, then everything would turn around for them.

That’s what they tell themselves, anyway. If they were better looking and had game, everything would work out. Well, isn’t that why we’re learning this stuff? Because we’re not all born handsome and witty?

It’s how I used to think, too: I wasn’t good enough for hot girls. I was too short, too fat, too skinny, too young, too old, too plain, and I had to talk myself attractive. Once I discovered the pickup community, it was like being handed a magic wand. All I had to do was practice these tactics and techniques, so I’d finally know exactly what to say to girls. Now, almost 14 years later, I still have no idea what to say to girls to get them to like me. But I’m a lot more confident, and women like that trait.

Here’s the truth about “Game.” As a science, it was made for average, frustrated chumps. Not good-looking, social geniuses.

We’ve learned:

Club Game: Get Noticed and Make the Right Impression with Girls

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Clubs are pits of sexual chaos, but nothing goes unnoticed. To position yourself as a guy who is destined to get laid, you’ve got to manage how you’re perceived.

So you are amid all the lights and the hammering bass, girls are in revealing outfits, and lots of alcohol is flowing. You want to get physical, but what do you do to make it happen?

In theory, everything is just right for mingling and getting things started, but in reality, most guys are hovering around the edges, and girls are self-isolating in their groups defending against the crass approaches that will inevitably be flung their way.

As a perceptive guy, you feel stuck in the middle, between the guys hovering around the edges and the girls who are assuming all incoming guys are missiles they ought to deflect.

You don’t want to be seen and rejected as one of “those guys,” but even worse, you don't want to just stand back and do nothing!

So how do you get physical in a club? By being observant and becoming skilled at reading and communicating body language.

Let's dive in.

Poor Men vs. Cheap Men: Women View Them VERY Differently

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By: Varoon Rajah

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Being poor can give you certain advantages in the dating game. But if she thinks you’re CHEAP, it’s game over! Here’s how to avoid that “cheap” stink of death.

At the time of the story I'm about to tell, I'd been on a roll for a good month. I had high momentum, pulling girls left and right from day game and having wild, same-night sex pretty consistently. I was in a spectacular groove.

During this wonderful month, my friends and I decided to go out one Friday night. My entire aura was just glowing with sex, and the girls picked up on it. We walked by this tall, skinny-but-busty Chinese girl smoking a cigarette. She stared me down and smiled as I walked by. I broke off from my friends and approached her as they kept walking. She introduced herself, then quickly revealed she’s bisexual, looking for some fun, and was bored waiting for her friends inside the bar. She was out for her friend’s birthday party, hosting out of town friends and showing them the New York City nightlife.

She invited me to meet her friends, and I obliged. Soon after, the birthday girl left, leaving me with my girl and a group of four hot single women. All were 8s and 9s in my book, and three of the five were travelers. Great group logistics. I texted my two wings to meet me at a bar ten minutes away where I led the girls. We all sat at a table and ordered drinks. The waitress asked for a card to hold the tab. As the de-facto leader of the group, I surrendered mine.

Five girls and three guys were having fun and vibing, but my wings weren’t doing the work they should have, and my girl (the alpha of HER group) was getting antsy. To keep the vibe up, I proposed we head to another lounge in a different part of town, closer to my place. The girls discussed this and agreed. My girl was still on the fence because her girls didn’t have guys, but she was following my lead, and things looked promising for an end-of-night pull.

I asked for the bill, and seeing that it was over $100, proposed splitting it. I told the waitress to bring half for me and half for the girls, and this foolish decision killed me for the night!

Long story short, the alpha girl, my girl, was furious that I wasn’t picking up the tab for her friends. When none of the girls nor my friends offered to pay, the birthday girl decided to chip in, which rubbed the alpha wrong even more. “Why should the birthday girl pay?” she said. I immediately realized my mistake and put my card down, paying the tab, but it was already too late.

She stormed off, and in an angry Chinese tirade to her friends, told them to leave my group and go to another bar. I tried to salvage things and restore the vibe, but it was too late. I’d already blown it.

In the end, I came off as cheap to my girl, the alpha lead, and the opportunity was lost.

How to Attract Your "Type" of Girl, Part 2: By Race

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In Part 2, we go over some girl types (by race) and their general preferences in men. We also lay out the fundamentals you’ll want to develop in order to get with them.

In Part 1 of this series, we talked about how every guy specializes in certain kinds of women as they get better in the game. We discussed the key ingredient to specialize in women (your fundamentals): how you stylize your appearance and behavior. Your image to others will attract or repel particular types of women. Therefore, changing this is the key to a successful specialty.

Of course, guys also want specific types of girls. Maybe you’re a foreign guy who longs for a western blonde woman, or you’re a white or black guy who wants to experience a foreign, exotic beauty.

Either way, there are two groups of women: (1) the women who are attracted to your current looks and behavior, and (2) the women you want. Combining those two groups into one is the crux of successful specialization.

Guys hit a slam dunk when they successfully modify their fundamentals and appearance to be naturally attractive to the same women that they seek! In other words, you can change yourself and your appearance to attract the women you want in your life.

Even better, a girl’s preference is only a part of what she wants. Game is dependent on building a girl’s desire with you in the moment. You can get plenty of girls for whom you are not their preference, simply by instigating and creating their desire through the use of game.

How to Attract Your "Type" of Girl, Part 1: Fundamentals

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Every guy has a “type” of girl that tickles his fancy more than others, whether it’s about her looks or personality. What can you do to get your type chasing you?

Every guy has a "type." When most of us think of women, we think of physical features first over the personality attributes we seek. Both are important, especially in long-term game (relationships are a completely different skillset from pickup). However, the place to start is to get girls with the physical appearance we want, because this is what will ultimately drive our attraction from the get-go.

If you’re a beginner to seduction or the dating game in general, just learning the ropes around women, you may not really know the “type” of girl you’re actively seeking yet. Most likely, you’re physically attracted to a particular type or an “idea” of a girl, and that’s what catches your eye. Once you start having good experiences and successes with women, your desires will change.

We also live in a time, especially in the West, when it’s very easy to date nearly any race or culture if you live in a place with diversity. For instance, New York City has the density and diversity of almost every culture on Earth, plus all the tourists who visit from around the world (and many women seek short flings with a New York guy). The same dynamic exists in Miami, Hawaii, resorts in the Caribbean, and various locations throughout Europe and Asia.

For some guys, there are tons of options for meeting many kinds of women. Being a New Yorker, I can pursue and date almost any race and culture, whether she’s American, an immigrant, or a tourist. For other places, you don’t necessarily have these options. And even then, it takes some time to find just what kind of girl suits your fancy. Physical appearance is certainly desirable for a single sexual experience. Still, if you want something more than a one-night stand, it comes to more than just physical appearance.

I do think that experience and good game helps you get many kinds of women. However, as you grow better and your tastes morph, you start to specialize in certain types of women, both in appearance and personality. In this two-part series, we’ll cover this in-depth.

Alek's Sexy Seducer Fashion Guide

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By: Alek Rolstad

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As seducers, we want to be noticed and make a great impression before we even talk to a girl. Good fashion accomplishes that, and here’s how I go about it.

Hey, guys. I hope you are doing great. Today I want to discuss style and grooming. Now, I am not hired as a writer here on Girls Chase to write about style, nor am I a professional fashion writer.

But for years, clothing has been a favorite hobby of mine. I've discovered that how you dress is important when meeting women, but it is not like women will love you for your clothes.

However, dressing badly can be a game killer.

See, a woman cares about how she is perceived, and if you don’t dress well, she will not feel comfortable being seen with you. This could potentially ruin your chances of getting the girl. You may have read my earlier articles on female state control (FSC). I wrote articles about social value and how a minimum threshold of social value is required to avoid women holding back and resisting. Dressing appropriately is clearly one of the key fundamentals for success with women. Your fashion must fit the function!

You may also become a bit like me, who happens to be deep into fashion. That’s cool. Dressing crazy good can even get women to approach you on the street. But that requires next-level fashion skills that take much time and effort to acquire. It must become a full-time hobby.

I participate in fashion competitions and have won one so far. These usually take place at fashion clubs in big cities in Europe.

In the community, I’ve been known to be one of the most flamboyantly dressed players. That said, I will refrain from turning into a fashion blogger, although I will share some overall guidelines.

Does Having Money Really Help You Get Laid?

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Women are attracted to money. Duh. But how does wealth impact your ability to get laid? In some ways, it helps, but it also comes with considerable drawbacks.

Hey, guys. Today I’ll share my experiences on a very opinionated topic: how money and wealth play into the mating game. Specifically, I’d like to discuss whether wealth plays a role in hooking up with women, or if it works against you.

I derive many details from my personal experiences and observations.

In the end, I’ll make a normative moral statement, just an opinion that you are welcome to disagree with.

Before I begin, I must mention that wealth holds different values in different countries. It depends where you live, and can matter more in other areas. For example, in developing countries, wealth equals strength, which is attractive. In Scandinavian countries, wealth matters very little.

It is for these reasons that I have held back from writing such a post in the past. I was living in Scandinavia, and I had traveled a lot but not enough to make general, in-depth sociological observations.

I now live in Central Europe, more precisely, in Paris. Wealth matters much more here. Clubs are flashy, and Paris is known for its bourgeoisie. The high-end clubs here are truly HIGH END.

But does money matter? Yes, but when does it truly matter? And when does it work against you?

Let’s discuss this here.

And just FYI, I am not rich.

6 Key Areas to Improve Your Success with Women

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Lots of factors can thwart your chances with women. These particular ones have a way of infecting you with long-term dry dick syndrome. And they’re not hard to fix.

Like a pebble that causes an avalanche, the tiniest change in mindset or strategy can create such profoundly powerful results.

You may be struggling with your game, getting stuck in stage-two seduction, or just wondering why things aren’t clicking. Over my years of teaching, I’ve noticed that men have common, universal sticking points, or blind spots, that once isolated, can drastically improve success with women.

In today’s article, I’m going to share six areas where you can improve today.

Attractive Traits Are Useless If They're Not Perceived

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You can be the coolest guy in the room, but no one will care unless you’re perceived as such. How do you convey attractive traits, and which traits should you focus on?

Today’s post is one that I have wanted to write about for a long time, not because I find it ground-breaking, but because it covers crucial elements of understanding pickup and seduction.

Many of you have already figured out the concepts I’ll mention. That’s cool. It’s always good to get confirmation from someone else.

Others will find the points I make intuitive, and that’s cool, too, because my post may help you put into words (or perhaps “new words” or “different words”) something you have already thought about.

And some will read this without having any past ideas or opinions on the matter. If that’s you, great! You will learn something new.

This post is a key pillar to help you understand the big picture of how pickup and seduction works. Ideally, this post will help you tie some things together to give you a better understanding.

I believe this post is suited for everyone, beginners and pros alike. No matter your style, or whether you like to meet girls online, in clubs, or on the street, this one is for you.

Let’s get on with it.