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Sometimes you can find and bed girls who are freaks.
To a certain degree this depends on the type of game you use. Some approaches (like Pablo's in the article I just linked) filter for these types of girls better than others.
Even if you don't directly screen for freaks (i.e., girls who like lots of sex, and kinky sex), you'll still bed some from time to time... depending on how and where you meet women.
However if you're like most guys, the majority of girls you bed will not be freaks.
Most will be normal girls with normal sexual appetites.
That's all well and good.
So what do you do when you start to see a girl regularly... and you want her lusty for you?
Well, you turn her into a freak.
Comments
So much psychology in here / Did you write article about "end"
Hey Chase,
Re: Amazing article!
I feel like this article has potential to trigger off many guys who have that "angel" in their pedestal XD.
But it's great that you posted this. Much of this stuff is normal psychology but instead of "accidentally happened", we take hold onto the handle and seed it into her head. Sort of the way being her boyfriend and she would pick off things from us too.
Then again, doing this would lower her guard for everything, and not just with us, just as great sex with a girl that sexually liberates her and makes her horny and curious with sex in general, entering the experimental phase. But that's fine. They deserve the enlightenment eventually, so why not let it be us.
From my memory, you talked about the girl who wasn't sexually active, but after screwing her 5-6 times in the weekends as a normal thing, she changed. One day, you wanted to go watch a movie and she objected, saying "what if I wanted to kiss you..." and wanted to stay at home instead.
What was the story behind that? ;)
Re: Article about "Ending properly is most important"
I think you wrote an article about emphasizing on ending something. Conversations. Dates (especially). Ending the date well is important and how you bid good byes is important. But I looked through your lists of articles and can't find it anymore :(
Do you have the link?
Thanks,
Lawliet
Article on Date Endgame
Lawliet-
The girl... when did I post that, four or five or more years ago? It sounds vaguely familiar but I don't have a clear memory on it anymore. I doubt there's much story behind it... just some girl whose sex drive woke back up after a few weeks of being active and suddenly it was all she was thinking about! Women get pretty sex-crazy early on in a new relationship with a guy they're into. All that repressed sexual energy gets to unleash.
I believe that was most likely this article:
"11 Mistakes that Ruin First Dates (and How NOT to Make Them)"
Skim down to "Date End Mistakes" for that part.
Chase
Haha. It’s fun to read about
Haha. It’s fun to read about ‘anal orgasms’ from a straight man. XD Especially since there’s no such thing as an ‘anal orgasm.’ Porn got the best of you. Actually, the woman you shagged simply played along, and then she realised she was not getting anything out of it and boycotted it. Haha, the expert!
PS I’m a girl.
"there's no such thing..."
I've never watched anal sex porn, and it sounds like you've never been properly fucked up the ass.
That girlfriend in question was a combative non-people pleaser who made it very clear any time you'd failed to give her numerous or powerful enough orgasms. Trying to imagine her faking any kind of orgasm, especially one in the ass with her screaming the way she screamed during hard ones, is only possible if you're trying to imagine it in the abstract over the Internet.
-C
Money
Hi Chase!
Thanks for this article, I really ought to ask this question because there was little information about it on your website.
What if you must give money to a girl and you know she needs it and you really like her but at the same time you risk losing both attraction and compliance by giving money? how would you encounter if you don’t want to risk losing her and at the same time keeping your attainablity and attraction good enough? what’s your preferred strategy and plan normally?
In my scenario she needs money I know but whenever I do give it to her she’s changed her mind about me being her lover.
Please advise on this scenario and the tech you would if you have to use in this situation.
Thank you, Arash
When You Do Her a Favor But It Costs You Instead
Arash-
Hmm, well I haven't dealt with this personally. However, any time you give a woman something you'd prefer not to give her, it's generally best to act like whatever it is you give her is no big deal. "Sure, here; no big deal. Just get it back to me in a reasonable amount of time."
Also, if you have a history where you give this girl money, then she stops going to bed with you, I'd call that out the next time she needed money again. "Hey, I'm going to give you this money, it's no big deal. But if it leads to you closing your legs to me because you feel weird about taking my money or whatever it is, then maybe we shouldn't do this anymore. We can take you to the bank or somewhere to get a loan there instead. I don't want to do something nice for you and have it hurt our relationship."
You can also be firmer about it: "No, I'm not doing that. Every time I give you money you turn into a prude and close your legs to me. I lose money AND I stop getting laid. It's the worst possible deal ever. There's no motivation for me to do that. No. Go get a loan from the bank." She'll protest, whine, complain, promise you she won't stop putting out; finally after she spends 10 minutes trying to convince you you can give in and say okay fine, but seriously, if you do it to me again you will never get another cent from me. I want you to understand that.
One note: be careful how you talk about sex. It's very important to not talk about it as something she gives to you. Or a reward for you. Or any framing like that. Instead it is just her doing things that hurt the relationship, or you having to go celibate, or her being weird and closing her legs. It is not about "I want sex but you're not giving it to me"; subtle but very important difference in how you frame the sex.
Chase
Handling intrigue with girls who are the curious type
Hi Chase,
I have one irrelevant question.
Have you ever encountered girls who are "I must know everything" type of people and will chase after you and begging "Telll me!" until you do. If you don't, they become auto rejection. If you do right away, they feel instant satisfaction and their behaviour and engagement immediately lowers. Texting you like crazy and instant responses? No longer. Pulling you by the arm and saying "Tell me!"? Not any more.
So is there a way to balance this and still milk this intrigue while sparking interest? I would love some examples if you have some, it helps illustrate how to bait this and not supplicate.
With that said, I read your bait article, intrigue and keep it, and not supplicate articles, and here's my story about what I tried and didn't work.
I remember this girl was curious about me and I hesitated to tell her the exact answer. I baited. And she was crazy, the flirtation was on! The back and forth vague answer as she keeps chasing until she gets that answer. I change the topic and waited a few days before bringing it up myself to avoid being reactive. Still, after she heard the answer, she would reduce her investment tremendously.
Re: Re-take - When I tried to get compliance in exchange - still didn't work
Compliance gives attraction right? So why not try getting that if she's chasing for something
So coincidentally, I bumped into her again after a long time and she had already forgotten about me. And this time it was about something else and she once again was chasing after an answer. Funny thing is, this time she won't let it go and even put on her mean game and challenged me, but I didn't supplicate. Instead, I thought ok if she's trying that hard, might as well see if I can get some compliance from her in exchange. So I told her that I usually won't share this but if you tell me about X, I'll tell you. She outright said No and me first. I changed the topic again, but she outright called me out on it and hammered me. I was busy at the time so I asked her to help me in something so I finish and tell her and she says No again and demands me to "Just say it"
So in this case, how could you handle this? While still not supplicating and a pushover, but still getting intrigue and keeping it.
Would love to hear your thoughts,
Lawliet
Girls Who Obsessively Try to Have You Answer One Question
Lawliet-
Personally I just find this kind of behavior annoying. I had plenty of experiences like you where you tell the girl the thing she wants to know, and she loses all interest. Next I shifted to leading her on forever, but I've found you'll usually hit a wall where she is just single-mindedly obsessed with trying to figure out what she wants to know about you, while shutting down your attempts to escalate. She's basically a time sink.
The way I usually deal with it now is to not leave giant question marks that make women obsessively curious. That solves the problem 93% of the time.
However, a minority of the time, you have the weird chicks who want some drill-down level of granularity into your life. They want to know some very specific details about you that you just don't care to give them. In that case, I give those girls a compliance test: "Let's have a seat and we can talk some." Or if we're already seated, "Let's change venues, it's too noisy here. We'll head somewhere else, and we can talk about it." If she resists, she loses, and I'm done talking to her (she'll follow me around and bug me for a bit to try to find out what she wants to know, but if she isn't complying with me she will never find that out). If she complies, I'll reward her by letting her find out... after I make her guess a bit or whatnot. Usually after she guesses it I will go into a story about it. Since she's interested in it, it gives you a chance for some decent storytelling.
"No dice, sister," and walk away.
#2 in this article.
Chase
"You First"
And when girls say "You First" in the exchange of "information" or attempt to get compliance so she finds out what she chases after. What does this mean in context of VAC?
Lawliet
Re: "You First"
Depends on context.
In the situation you described, it sounds like you have too much attainability (she has zero fear to ask for things), and poor compliance (she is ignoring your efforts to get her to comply).
Chase
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