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The Top 3 Reasons to Pick Up Girls Sober

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Drexel Scott's picture

pick up girls sober
Check the nightlife, and you’ll see almost every guy out to pick up girls is drunk or high. If you can do it sober, you give yourself a major competitive advantage.

Do you blaze, drink, or do lines when you go out and hit the club to chat up girls?

One year ago, William Gupta talked about the truth about taking drugs and hooking up.

After a decade in the Game, I've noticed something striking - almost nobody is sober. When guys learn and practice pick-up, they tend to be drunk, stoned, or both... and a lot of the guys gaming in clubs are, to put it bluntly, doing coke in the bathrooms in order to keep themselves "up" for the long haul of partying and hitting on women until 2 in the morning.

Before you think I'm just being some prude who can't have a good time, let me preface what I'm about to say by mentioning that I struggled with various forms of addiction for a full decade. I've been through the depths of that hell, I know what the demons look and sound like in your head, and I know precisely what kind of blade a man needs to sever them in half and regain his life from the abyss.

Now, before I get into my top 3 reasons to practice pick-up sober, I'll briefly explain why I think so many guys can't seem to perform this art without a little "chemical help" of some type. I believe that the primary reason so many guys do pick-up stoned or drunk... which REALLY became clear once I cleaned up my act and started living the sober life... is that pick-up is scary as hell.

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Vermin's picture

Drexel,
I loved this article! One thing I've always wondered since I don't drink is, wouldn't you forget the sex as well if you were drunk the entire night? I've always wondered that, what's the point in having sex if you're not even going to remember it.

Jimbo's picture

I know you meant this as a way to help, and the advice itself to cut on the subtances is indeed sound, but man some of that stuff was downright depressing.

You make pick-up sound like the Kilimanjaro when in fact it's just talking to a girl you like, and gave approach anxiety a rational justification with "what we're doing in pick-up is a massive complex of social violations that most human beings will never truly engage in." Really? Boy likes girl therefore boy engages said girl is a massive social violation? Yeah okay, sometimes boy likes many girls and as a reult he'll be engaging 50 in a week, but I still don't see that as a massive social violation.

stef's picture

i will put it this way: basic pick up very simple, master level pick up: horribly complex

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Drexel Scott's picture

Hey Jimbo, thanks for the thought-provoking comment and question. To answer it, I'd say that even though pickup becomes as easy as breathing eventually, at the beginning yes--it is incredibly difficult. The kind of men who are attracted to this corner of the internet (myself included when I first discovered it ten years ago) tend to have a lot of mental chatter and emotional blockages around the idea of going up to a stranger, initiating a conversation, and then trying to get that stranger to have fast and uncommitted sex with you. To me there's a pretty big difference between the normal world of guy-girl relations, and the world of PUA.

I myself have actually transitioned away from the PUA model and am now trying to somewhat re-integrate myself into the normal world of dating and relationships, which is an interesting challenge in and of itself since I have ten years of PUA habits burned into my brain, but overall I would say that I had to undo a lot of social norms in my own mind to learn the PUA skills in the first place.

Especially given the cultural climate we live in now, I think it takes real balls to get into this stuff and actually go out and learn it. Nothing worth having in life comes easy, and I think it would give guys the wrong impression to tell them that it's easy to learn and easy to do at first--I know it is far more so for some guys than others, but the ones attracted to my material and articles and courses tend to be like I was, really REALLY behind in terms of social skills and confidence.

So perhaps you are just a bit more neurotypical than those kinds of guys, I really am not sure. Either way I know that doing it sober makes it harder but also will amplify your evolution as a man in a way that doing it drunk or high does not, so regardless of the problem...the solution is the same!

Cheers

Jimbo's picture

Thanks for the response Drexel.

I enjoyed quite a few of your articles btw.

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Drexel Scott's picture

You're welcome and I'm glad! Follow the link in my comment signature if you like my material; it will lead you to the deepest parts of my mind and the most highly guarded esoteric secrets of seduction. Cheers and see you soon

z23's picture

Life circumstances have led me to a point where I now primarily go out sober, and the results are so much better. If you're working out, alcohol isn't good anyways, so your body will thank you and give improved fundamentals. Also, your mind is so much clearer. If you're still working on process, you'll find it easier to implement the process without devoting your mind purely to the process and miss out on what the woman is saying. If you've already got process down, suddenly you're this amazing man who can both lead her on the path to intimacy while at the same time providing amazing conversation.

No matter what your stage in life and seduction, I highly recommend at least half the time you go to meet women that you're completely stone-cold sober. At the bare minimum it will give a new perspective and you might find that your results increase drastically.

Joe70's picture

Hi Drexel:

This thread is two years old but I just read your aticle this morning after having an epiphany Friday night. I attended a speed dating event on Friday night just as a change of pace and to try to utilize the many different techniques from PUAs whose courses I have been memorizing for the last month. As usual for me, I got my drink on before even attending the event and psyched myself up that I was the man while supressing any doubts or past demons with several glasses of wine. Just to add; in addition to enhancing my PUA knlwedge base, I also made it a point to get in shape and improve my appearance in many different ways.

As I got out of the Uber and walked into the bar I thought to myself; "nothing can stop me now, I am looking good and have the confidence to back it up".So, after making the rounds with women I did not even find remotely attractive, in a room with guys who I believed inferior in every way, my last stop was with a very attractive woman with whom I thought things went amazingly well. When it came time to complete my list, I included the very attractive woman and included several other for good measure, despite the low level of attraction I had for them.

I returned home "victorious" in my mind, and woke up the next morning to an absolute shock when I received the results and found that I had only matched with one of my "safe" secondary picks, and it was not the woman I was attracted to. I could not accept the results, I said this had to be a mistake, I did everything I was taught to perfectilon and was far superior, in my mind, to the competition. As I kept thinking over and over to myself; "what the hell did I do wrong", the answer finally came as the fog of the hangover cleared. I drank: that was my mistake, plain and simple, a mistake I have repeatedly made. Reading your article only solidified this observation and put it into perspective with regards to PUA techniques I memorized. Not to contradict brother Jimbo in his commentary on your article, but you are dead right when you say: "what we're doing in pick-up is a massive complex of social violations that most human beings will never truly engage in." Despite the different techniques different PUAs tout as superior, what they all have in common is reliance on the ability to read very subtle social clues and be able to quickly shift conversation, tone, and physical behaviors based on your read. Even trying to employ various techniques for initiating and perpetuating the conversation requires a clear mind; particularly because their success is premised on the need to practice them and perfact them. So, I ask myself; "do I ever show up drunk to work, or to important work related meetings". Answer: "NO". It is because of this fact that I have managed to succeed in one of the most cut-throat environments I have ever worked in. If I can walk to into meetings where I am sitting in front of my CEO, CFO and COO while false data which has been concealed from me is being presented in an effort to make my division look bad and in response, I successfully defend myself and my division against multiple attackers and make snap adjustments to the tone and content of my talking points based on observation of facial and body expressions of my bosses, then I should be able to approach any woman at any time and extrapolate similar skills to the social arena.

For these reasons I find your article here to be more profound than the volumes of booklets and hours of video recordings PUAs generate to teach you how to pick up and date women. I do not know if you still even check on this thread for additional comments, but I felt so compelled to comment I am anyway. Let me know if you read this by commenting on it sending me an email. I would like to update on how your profound advice affects my life going forward.

Peace

J

John T's picture

I quit alcohol 2.5 years ago, and recently became single again after a 5 year relationship. I had been concerned that I'd be fucked, but I've found some great things.
1) Women really like it when you tell them you're not drinking. Like, noone has even shit tested me. The fact that I'm chatting with women and approaching them sober also seems to score points with them. It's an attractive quality, not drinking, women seem to like it and gain respect for you.
2) It's really easy to be present in social situations, and see and correctly read signals of interest. You can calibrate your situation, assess pitfalls, and basically use your clarity to make the best decision at any given moment. You can also assess if a girl isn't really into you and you aren't blinding yourself to it because you're half boozed.
3) The feeling of pulling a woman sober, and kissing her, and escalating to sex etc is incredible. All the anxiety seems to become pure desire. You are also very coordinated and can manage to escalate things in a calm and measured fashion.
4) You're far more likely to be the one with standards and deciding whether the girl in question is good enough for you (given that if you're at a bar at night, she might be the one boozing and gaining confidence with fake stimulants).

There's more positives really, but honestly, for a man who spent his whole life using alcohol as a crutch, I cannot recommend this more highly. There are literally no drawbacks.

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