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Alek Rolstad's picture

Welcome back,

If you remember our last post, I covered an evening out in Bulgaria where I totally failed – the failure was due to what we labelled as “inflation”. Now the principle of inflation can be defined as follows: when you deliver too much of the same seduction material (humor, sex talk, language patterns, cocky lines, etc.) it loses its impact. There are numerous reasons for that:

  • It loses its value; women and humans in general do not value things they can easily get. If you give her a lot of, say, “funny lines”, then she will not value them as much anymore.

  • It can in worst case scenarios make you come across as needy/“trying too hard” and ruin all her attraction for you.

fractionation

Now this is just a quick recap of my last post. The theory of inflation is explained in-depth there. At the end of that post I shared a number of ways we could avoid having to deal with such situations in the first place.

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Magoya's picture

Hey Alek,
This is a really good article well detailed and I loved the use of examples.Yes ,yes I need more articles on end game because I run into LMR alot ...that would help me deal with this plateau. And I was wondering does deep diving have a negative effect , I mean I feel like deep diving raises my value with females since your ordinary guy won't do it and I get slotted into boyfriend zone. I'd really like to hear your take on that.
Thanks again, this article is solid.
Nagoya

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Alek Rolstad's picture

Hi Magoya and thanks for you response.

I will cover discuss last minute resistance in my next article (report). So stay tuned.

To answer your question, let us look at the main causes of last minute resistance:

- Low selfesteem - women afraid of feeling "slutty" and having her friends judge her
- Convervative girl - "having sex with strangers righ away is bad.."
- Her state is dropping... - "i.e. not feeling horny anymore".

And the most common reason:

- A failure to communicate sexual intent and being perceived as a lover.

Now. although the solution to our last pointer will have a positive impact on women with low self esteem and conservative women, I would at first avoid these women. Low self esteem women should be avoided... period - they cause too many issues in the long run. Conservative women can have casual sex, but it won't be an easy task. So I would wait before aiming for those. Normal (gladly a majority)to "sexually liberated women" are ideal.

Last minute resistance is usually (but not always) a symptom of a failure to communicate sexual intent earlier. It is like when a girl likes you because you seem like a cool guy, if you have failed to communicate that you are a lower, she will not perceive you as a sexual guy. If you haven’t shown any sexual intent earlier on, then whenever you start making a move, she will back off – “oh it turns out you actually have a penis” type of reaction.

The following is key for one night stands: communicate as early as possible that you are a sexual guy, either by touching her, using your eye contact or talking about sex. This way she knows that kind of male you are – a lover. Women will threat you based on the way they perceive you. If they perceive you as a lover, they will treat you like one. If you come across as a-sexual they might perceive you as a provider or worse a friend. The friend gets nothing for obvious reasons, but the provider usually has to wait, because women see relationship potentials in such men, so in order to force men to commit, they usually hold back sex. For lover however, that is not the case as women use such men for sex. So if you wanna bang, be the lover. ..

If it is casual sex you want, I would also recommend you to skip all techniques that:
* Creates too much rapport
* Creates too strong emotional connections.

Now both these can make you perceived as a potential boyfriend, which can cause women to hold back sex. If you are wondering why that is the case, let me know and I will explain/link to a post.

Deep Diving is powerful but it is does not seem like a technique fit for random hook ups and casual sex (but please ask Chase for a better answer - he invented the technique). Chase is a modern day Casanova who actually likes to create deeper relationship with women - he likes to make them his girlfriends and all that. i am not that way - i am more of a modern day man-whore. Different techniques suits for different purposes.

PS: You can always use deep diving AFTER you've had sex with a girl if you want to still create that deep connection.

I hope this answers your question.

-Alek

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Alek Rolstad's picture

A quick change of plans: My next post will not cover lmr, but the one after that the will. So in approx two weeks I will have a post that you (Mayoga) and anybody else struggling with LMR should check out.

- Alek

Magoya's picture

Yeah, deep diving isn't really for hook ups ....thanks again Alek waiting on that article

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Alek Rolstad's picture

You are welcome brother.

-Alek

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Alek Rolstad's picture

Hi Magoya - I am currently re-reading Chase's post on deep diving - and i am afraid I mixed up his deep diving technique with something else. therefore I definitely should ask him about how this technique applies to random hook ups.

That aside, all the other points in my response to you remains valid:
- communicating sexual intent early is key
- avoid building too much rapport or too much emotional connection before laying her.

Now that said - we all have our different tactics. i use sex talk to get laid, chase uses deep diving. Both are amazing tricks that can be used so try them both out and pick what works for you - or use them both.

For future inquiries, i will avoid discussing someone else technique unless I have a clear grasp on them. Sorry for that.

-Alek

International Player's picture

Great Stuff! This is one of those elements you add to your game without really thinking about it - and then when you think about it, it makes more sense because you become more aware of what you're doing - and even have a term for it. It's like when you're deep diving and a girl gives you an escalation window and you logically think "that was an escalation window - time to verbally escalate or get ready to pull"
Great Job! I Will start logically adding Fractionating into my Game
Thank You for the Consciousness

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Alek Rolstad's picture

Exactly.

I don't consider this a technique per se, but more of something that can spice up your interactions with women.

Women love up and downs and being pulled in and out of different states. I mean just look at the TV shows and movies made for females. Women simply love fractionation.

I am glad you found this post useful.

-Alek

trigga's picture

Alek thanks for the article, it really helps alot. I'm actually not gonna post a comment about the article but rather ask for your professional opinion. I met a girl earlier this year, January, I seduced her and became her lover, but after a few months, she actually lived in my hostel, she kinda fell in love with me and wanted me to become her Boyfriend. after a while I fell for her too and asked her out. I asked her out on May 25th, she's kinda immature and so I had to complain often and between may and august we broke up four times and we made up, she is a virgin and doesn't want sex, so all we did was oral sex which she was new too but I introduced it to her. Now we are on holidays and our love was going smoothly and out of the blues she told me she needed freedom. that we should stop dating and go back to being lovers. Then she also said she still loves me but she needed space to clear her head. So I geared into a No Contact for a week and she uploaded pictures and tagged me on Facebook and she called my phone yesterday to say hi. Is she still interested or what? Did I do anything wrong? I think I should move on but I am yet to get her out of my head. She's kinda religious though.

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Alek Rolstad's picture

Hi Trigga. i am not a relationship expert. I am more a guy who has one night stands and all that. Our poster called Joseph W. South could answer your question better than I could.

But from what it seems, she either:
- Isn't sure whether or not she wants to be in a relationship
- Is playing mind tricks on you to make you commit even more - by pulling out, then suddenly showing interests... well can make men chase and force them to commit. This is a real life example of push and pull used in practice.

The answer is the same to both: Anytime she says she wants more freedom, just cut her out for a few days.... and force her to make it clear to your whether or not she wants a relationship or not. In other words - don't be afraid of losing her. Don't fall for her trick. Be ready to move on ANYTIME. So if she gives you crap and says she doesn't want to be in a relationship, then fine, let's break contact. don't tell her anything (as it can backfire), just do it. If she starts running back to you, the you know that she has been playing mind games on you.

But again, this is how i would do things. mind you that i am no expert. Chase and Joseph could give you a better answer.

-Alek

ree's picture

hey alek,great fan of ur report like style of posting....wondering wether u have any field reports or journals (or wether u are even )in the forum

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Alek Rolstad's picture

Thanks man, i am really glad to hear that.

I have been posting field/lay reports since 2007. I have been on numerous forums since then. Most of my old reports were posted on the old mASF (that sadly is down now).

Unfortunatly, I haven't had much time to hang around forums lately. I am on the girlschase forum, but I haven't posted much (i think I have posted on report). My forums handls were: TVA_Oslo (back in the days, around 2007-2010) and Teevster (from 2010 till 2014)

I will post two more report style posts in the upcoming weeks, so stay tuned.

-Alek

lux7's picture

Man, beautiful article!!

I got renewed respect for you and I'm now exploring other articles of yours.

Quick question, you saying "avoid any connection-building technique" is ground breaking and goes against most which is taught here.

I found it to be true in most of my quickest pulls as well.

However... Have you tried to use and/or do you think your same approach would work in a more typical date scenario and/or during the day?

I think the same level of "sexual openness/aggressiveness" could easily backfire in those scenario.. (gave it a try once).

Simon Gabbay's picture

Hey Alex,

I really like your article especially how you relate fractionation with a real life situation. As I was reading your article I was trying to think the use of fractionation is different life situations such as using the method a girl you already like and so on. Can that be applied? and I was thinking if fractionation can be used as different methods as a way of persuading someone in a friendly conversation with no sex talk ?

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