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Touch During Seduction: How Much Is Too Much?

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Touch is vital to seduction, but too much can trigger resistance. At what point can touching backfire, particularly when you’re talking about sex?

Hey guys! Today I will delve into typical issues related to calibration. For example, how much should you escalate while delivering “impactful” verbal game like sex talk or hypnotic patterns meant to sexualize conversation and stimulate her?

I get this question a lot. How much should you touch a girl when you talk about sex? I realize I have not publicly given a good answer to this question, and that’s why I would like to cover it here.

There are no crystal-clear answers. Some prefer to touch more than others. Both strategies have pros and cons. Like many techniques in the field of pickup and seduction, it comes down to which advantages you favor for the price of associated disadvantages.

Let’s begin by stating some universal facts.

 

Touch Is Needed

You should absolutely be using touch and eye contact. I find eye contact to be a less controversial subject, since I believe there is not such a thing as too much eye contact unless you get to the point of creeping her out. Eye contact is key to sexualize an interaction, but at the same time, not all eye contact is sexual. Your boss, for example, may be dominant with strong eye contact, but that does not mean he wants to penetrate your butthole.

That said, in certain contexts (dating, romance, nightlife, etc.), touching is prone to be perceived as a sexual move. Hence how much you should use it will be the question of the day.

As we know, touching is a potent tool but also a double-edged sword, since it:

And considering that sex talk is already sexual, then perhaps touching her at the same time may be a little too much? I will debate this throughout the post. There are many perspectives to mention.

Before I get to that, let me state this once again: touch is needed.

It does not have to be explicit or sexual touch. It can be normal social touch like you'd do with a friend (e.g., touching her shoulder when making a statement). This is a minimum threshold that applies at all times.

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The question is not 'whether' you should touch her, but 'how much.'

You always need to establish a physical connection with her. Why is this important?

  • Touch creates a physical connection

  • While you also get her used to you touching her, at some point you will have to move on to sexual escalation (if things are going well); getting her comfortable with your touch early is hugely beneficial

That said, here's another important consideration.

 

Escalate According to Her Compliance

A universal rule (unless you favor a more direct game approach) is that you touch her as a response to her compliance level. This means you only touch her as much as she allows you to without causing resistance.

Higher compliance equates to a lower risk of resistance. This is pretty obvious.

The indirect method is based on dodging resistance. So we generate compliance, and when she starts to show compliance (qualifying or showing signs of interest), we escalate accordingly. The intensity of your escalation is proportional to her level of compliance. If it goes up, you escalate harder. If it goes down, you back off. This is straightforward and generally a safe way to proceed.

What’s good about this strategy is that touching becomes your way of rewarding or qualifying her for showing interest in you or the things you say. This creates a natural flow in the interaction. She feels like she is valued not because of her looks but because of her actions. It’s generally a good frame: she has made herself “deserve” the touch, which motivates good behaviors.

Direct gamers approach this differently. They see ESCALATION not as something you do as a response to her compliance, but something you do as a MEANS to generate compliance. They are right in their idea that escalation, like touch, does make women compliant. It creates connection, sets a sexual frame, and increases her arousal. All are factors that increase compliance. But as we mentioned, touching is a necessity, but also a double-edged sword; it can trigger resistance.

I do not favor playing the uphill battle and having to deal with resistance later (or worse, lose a potential good lead). But you may differ. It’s a personal choice.

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Direct game does offer benefits: when it works, it really works, and it works QUICKLY.

I have experimented with getting laid without touching women (until I was escalating to sex, of course). It is doable, absolutely, but it requires very tight verbal control from you, and you must “make up” for the lack of touch with your words. Mind you, it will not always work. So if you want to try, go for it, but adding some touch is not only the easier strategy but also the most efficient one.

 

Sex Talk and Touch

Consider the proper way of doing sex talk. I have written a post about this (check it out), but here’s a quick recap.

To deliver sex talk correctly, communicate that:

We may also add that it also allows you to communicate sexually liberal attitudes, low-keyness, and nonjudgmental attitudes (although these are less relevant to this conversation).

However, the wrong way of talking about sex is to communicate directly that you desire to do something sexual with her. Unless you are a master of direct game, you should not say you want to destroy her pussy (at least not right away).

Instead, communicate that you are a man who could potentially do it, who is good at it, who has experience with it, but you won’t necessarily do it to her UNLESS the vibe is right and she is the right one for you.

In other words, do not communicate sexual intent directly as you talk about sex. Instead, let her know indirectly that you're fully capable of rocking her world if things were to go in that direction.

The reason for this is twofold:

  1. It can trigger resistance! Yes, if you only talk casually about sex, and display knowledge, her chances of resisting will be lower. However, if you communicate that you will do X to her, her resistance goes up. She is suddenly forced to either accept it or reject it, and she's likely to pick the safe route and reject, unless she is horny or really into you, or very sexually liberated and does not give a damn.

  2. It kills all the intrigue. All the cards are on the table. Showing mixed signals and making her wonder whether or not you will do X to her will drive her crazy and raise her compliance level.

Touching can easily communicate sexual intent. So, if you start touching her too much, you will communicate (or at least sub-communicate) that you have an intention to do something sexual with her.

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Fondling her hair is more likely to communicate sexual intent than, say, touching her arm. Combine it with flirty eye contact, and there will be little doubt.

So touching will guide things toward a more direct route and impair the indirectness that was initially intended.

If you talk about sex and touch her aggressively, it becomes too clear that you intend to have sex with her. You've just switched to a direct vibe and must now deal with the common pitfalls of direct game.

 

Is There Anything Wrong with Being Direct?

Being direct is not my personal style, but the answer to this question is NO.

Some very good seducers go more direct with their touch, like Pablo. In all honesty, going direct is more time efficient. But I face less resistance than Pablo does. He can get hot girls very quickly. But one weakness of his approach is that women can resist or turn cold out of the blue because of female state control.

Girls may feel it went too far too quickly. Now, Pablo is VERY GOOD at handling resistance. But still, he has to deal with it, which in my book is a pain.

But again, he gets hot girls to go nuts over him much quicker than I do.

Interestingly enough, because of Pablo, I started touching more. (Before this, I had periods where I barely touched girls. I am not as physical as Pablo is, and I am a bit too obsessed with verbals.) My results did go up as a result. Women find touching attractive, after all.

Even more interesting was that Pablo started touching less, or less aggressively after hanging out with me (and in return, he became more verbal). So there is no doubt that we have learned much from each other. He is more sexually aggressive than I am, but this could be because I operate in cities where clubs close much later than where he lives. In other words, he needs to think about efficiency, and I do not.

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When the clock's ticking and you have nothing to lose, pull out all the stops.

Again, if you go indirect, you avoid dealing with resistance, but things generally move slower. If you go direct, you get more firepower and more resistance.

Pick your poison.

 

When Is More Touching Needed?

Let’s look at some circumstances to consider when assessing how much touch you should use.

  • If you are short on time, being more direct is generally recommended. You want to deliver a lot of punch quickly, or else you won’t have a chance to get her. You do not have the time to play it slow and safe.

  • If you are dealing with a girl you do not care too much about, and you are okay with messing up (you are willing to have sex with her but not willing to work hard for it), then go more direct and add more touching.

  • If you have high momentum, you will get away with more. In this case, add more touch! You are more likely to get away with it.

  • If you have low momentum, women may find you less attractive and are more likely to resist your moves. You need to build compliance before you can get away with much.

  • If it's cold out (winter) and her sex drive is low as a result, you need to add more firepower to wake it up. Be bolder. (Read my post on winter game.)

  • If you find yourself stuck in an interaction that is going nowhere (the vibe is not escalating), then add more touch. Yes, you may risk resistance, but staying passive will lead to a guaranteed death of the interaction. After all, you can still try to deal with the resistance if it becomes an issue. That's a good bet in my book.

  • If you are dealing with a girl who resists (not to be confused with a girl you think may resist, but a girl who has resisted), escalate less aggressively, and focus more on verbals. Build MORE compliance before escalating aggressively.

  • If your verbals are not as impactful (out of personal preference or because of the situation, like a language barrier or a loud venue), you should touch more.

That’s it for today. Let’s review.

 

Recap

We’ve discussed whether you should touch a girl when talking about sex (or any other impactful verbals such as hypnotic patterns). Our answer is yes, you should touch her. The question is how much.

You need to decide:

  • How much punch do you want?

  • How much resistance are you willing to cause and therefore have to deal with?

Incorporating more touch when talking about sex may change the indirect nature of sex talk into a more direct conversation and increase the risk of resistance. However, it may also make the interaction more impactful and efficient.

Less touching will allow you to play it safer and dodge resistance. However, don’t misunderstand this with “not touching” or “touching very little.”

Going indirect can allow for VERY explicit touching, but it has to be done according to her level of compliance. Sex talk is your tool to build her compliance level. And once her compliance level is up, increase the pace of the escalation.

That is my go-to method.

Of course, you are welcome to experiment and see what works best for you.

Good luck!

Alek

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