An Intro to Logistics: Get Her Alone with You

Happy New Year!

I hope you are doing great. Today I will talk about a topic that is too often disregarded but that is KEY to seduction – perhaps one of the most important aspects.

This post is primarily an introduction to logistics. I will add a few links to other posts of mine (in addition to posts from other writers) that cover more in-depth stuff on various logistics related topics as we go along.

What is logistics?

Logistics is basically the scenario in which the seduction is taking place, e.g. your surroundings and the locations you will be working in. Knowing your surroundings and how to use them to their fullest will obviously be of great use.

Most of the time, when talking about logistics in terms of seduction, we often refer to it as a “seduction location” or “having a place to have sex”. And as this is what most people are focused on, so too will we focus on it in this post.

As such, this post is custom-tailored for anyone interested in getting laid, covering the fundamental aspects of logistics.

Logistics

When it comes to the art of getting laid, logistics, even though oftentimes disregarded, is one of the key elements in doing so. Being good at handlings logistics alone can be enough for you to get lucky – and actually, quite often it is sufficient in and of itself. A solid understanding of logistics is where most seducers and pick-up artists have an edge over most naturals – we actually plan the process logistically – and that makes a HUGE difference.

Most of my experience with “naturals” (men who are naturally charming) is that they are very charismatic – they are able to hook lots of girls and often make them horny. However, they have no clear plan. Sometimes they get lucky and things go their ways, but oftentimes they simply go home empty-handed, regardless of how much attention they’re getting.

Think of it this way: approaching women and hooking them in is key, because it creates opportunities. Making her all horny and desiring you is also important. However, we can all agree that it is difficult to get laid if you have no place to do the deed.

The guy who has his logistics down will have an easier time getting laid. Period. With great logistics, he can easily pull girls back to his place and be totally undisturbed. The closer to the clubs (or wherever else you’re meeting girls) he lives, the easier it will be for him to pull. And if he lives alone, it will be really easy for him to get laid, as he will be in full isolation.

Think of your seduction skills as a “car” – the better seduction skills you have, the faster your “car” can go. Logistics is the “road” you drive on. Now, it doesn’t matter whether or not you have a really nice car, if the roads are all broken up you won’t be able to drive fast. Now if the roads are good, you can drive pretty fast with a bad car. Having really good logistics is like having a freeway to sex – you will reach your goal easily and fast.

If you don’t have the best built-in logistics, you’ll just have to have tighter game. The worse your logistics are, the tighter your game needs to be. You can always try to better your logistics in order to ease your way to success with women.

Here are some tips for you if you’d like to pull girls back to your place.

Bad Logistics

I would like to talk a little bit to those of you who don’t have their own place, because I am sure that if I don’t talk about this I will probably receive a lot of questions about it in the comment section. So better just give an in-depth answer here.

I personally have rarely had good logistics when heading out. Yes, it is a handicap, and yes, it is harder to get laid consistently. But just because something is harder doesn’t make it impossible. Quite the contrary, it is possible to get laid pretty consistently even without good logistics – however, it will require more of you.

Requires what, precisely?

• Tighter game: You will have to create a bit more compliance (often synonymous with “making her hornier”). You will have to improvise more and rely on her logistics. As you will not be in full control of her logistics – as opposed to when you are dealing with your own, some more compliance is required. It obviously requires more from you to ask a girl “should we go back to your place and have a glass of wine and talk about philosophy” than just inviting her back to your place.

• Better screening skills: When you have bad logistics (often synonymous with “I don’t have my own place”) you are dependent on her having better logistics than you. For that you will have to screen for her logistics – i.e., find out if she lives nearby and whether or not she lives with someone.

• Being good at leading: Women love just being led by men who know what they’re doing – who know what to do next; a man who has a clear plan. Now without your own logistics you obviously have a handicap. Therefore, it is key that you do not mess up on anything else you are in control of so that you have some leverage when you will have to deal with the tricky stuff. For example, you better have a “plan” for later – i.e., drink wine and chit chat, so that you can allow yourself to be less in control on the other part, which is “where do we go next”.

Now onto the one million dollar question: how do you screen for logistics? Well, this is pretty easy. While you are in an interaction with her, and you know she is hooked in and pretty into you, just ask her indirectly where she lives:

“Are you from around here?”

“Do you live in this city of are you just having a weekend trip?”

And if you don’t get any clear responses from doing that... Then simply ask her:

“Where do you live?”

Now once you get a clear answer, do not dwell on it – move to another more exciting topic. You have gotten your answer, now move on.

So how do we deal with the different answers one might get?

• Good logistics: If she lives nearby and alone, then that is awesome – go for it. If you are a guy with bad logistics, it is key that you grab all the good opportunities you can get – as long as they are hot of course.

• Bad logistics: Seriously, just move on. Even if she is hot, it will be very hard for you to get to lay her. There is nothing worse than being horny and going home with blue balls, especially when the girl might have been really into you. When logistics blow it for you, you will go home frustrated – believe me. Move on – there are a lot of hot girls out there with better logistics. It sucks, yes, but it is better to move on and get laid rather than going home having an after party with your right/left hand and feeling frustrated.

• Neutral logistics: Well, you will have to choose whether or not you are willing to take a little risk. If you go for it, expect that tighter game will be required of you. One word of advice: she’d better be hot.

Now you are probably asking: “Is it possible to get laid with zero logistics – as in both of you have no private place to go?”.

The answer is YES, but it is really hard. It requires really tight game in addition to some luck. Now I will not go too much into detail about this here because I plan discussing the this in depth in my next post. It will be a post for mostly advanced guys, but will also be fit for guys who would like to take a huge challenge. That post will also cover lots of useful stuff that can contribute to your overall understanding of seduction.

Here is some additional information for you if you’d like to pull girls back to their own place.

After Parties

Now, there is always a possibility to bring your girl to an after party. That being said, I have talked with some of the writers here, including Chase, Cody, and Halvor and, we all agree that big messy after parties suck. You and a buddy or two bringing each of their girls can be a lot of fun though. I never mind having after parties with guys from the GC team.

If you want to throw an after party, follow this guide. Lots of cool stuff in there.

However, big after parties with lots of strangers can be a pain in the ass:

• Hard to get fully isolated

• Too many distractions (for example, you are about to make out and suddenly some dude puts on her favorite track...)

• Cockblocks – Yes, other horny men hitting on your girl...

• You might not even find a room to bang in – taking you back to step one...

However, sometimes it is worth taking the risk. If the girl is hot and both your logistics are bad, then it might be worth heading to an after party. Now maybe you have friends who have after parties or maybe she does? Maybe you can convince a friend of yours to have one.

For those who are into after parties – it is always easier to find one if you socialize with a lot of people at the club. Once the clubs are closed, you will easily find an after party thanks to your new acquaintances. The more friends you make, the more options you will have when it comes to after parties.

Here is a last tip – if your girl is out with some friends (female) then you can basically walk up to any useless dude and ask for an after party and invite the girls over – most men will say yes to either have an after party and let you in if you bring over the girls. You will also be the king of the night and the host will love you for it. You might even borrow his room.

If you plan on getting laid at an after party, I suggest you read this.

Hotel No Tell

Now let us talk about hotel pulls.

I will make this one quick: pulling a girl back to a hotel after meeting her in a club is not only really expensive but also really hard. We all know hotels cost a lot in most countries.

But it is also really hard, because if you pull a girl from a club, chances are you will not get a room. Yes, hotels do not want to rent rooms to drunk people – even if you are not drunk, they will think you are. Some hotels simply won’t rent rooms on Saturday nights because they expect most people checking in to be drunk. I have experienced this in many places, including:

• China (Beijing)
• UK (London and Edinburgh)
• Norway (Oslo)
• Spain – in goddamn Magaluf – also known as Shagaluf.
• Sweden (Gothenburg)
• Switzerland (Geneva)

I think this is pretty common – and note that I am never drunk; I barely drink. Oh, they will always give some lame excuse that they are “fully booked”.

In addition to that, pulling girls back to a hotel room is super lame and can actually trigger a lot of resistance. Now why is that? Well, when you offer a girl to check into a hotel with you, it basically means you are asking her if she would like to go for a roll in the hay. The fact that sex WILL occur is way too obvious.

• Women do not like to feel pressured. By checking into a hotel she feels pressured that sex has to happen.

• Resistance is triggered whenever it becomes too obvious to her that you are planning to have sex with her. I am not saying you shouldn’t communicate sexual interest, but it needs to be under the radar, subtle, and indirect. By inviting her to check into a hotel room with you are basically being way too direct with your intentions.

• And women are afraid of being judged or even “feeling” slutty. By going to a hotel she feels guilty, especially when she has to face the receptionist – “Hello dear receptionist, I am here because I am going to get fucked very hard tonight!”

Checking into a hotel is most of the time a bad and expensive idea. It is doable, but it will require a lot of compliance from her – she has to have made up her mind about sleeping with you already, and now it is more a question of “when” rather than “if”. But unless this is the case, drop this whole idea altogether.

Now, if you are staying at a hotel (vacation, business trip...) your hotel room counts as “your place” – and hence the same principles that applies to pulling girls back to your place, applies here as well. However, keep in mind that receptionists can be roadblocks. I have written a post about dealing with this issue.

Last Words

What about public sex? Well yes, I know I didn’t cover that in this post, but I will in my next. My next post, as mentioned earlier, will cover wilder and more advanced stuff. Stay tuned.

In this post we have basically covered the following:

• Discussed what logistics is

• How good logistics will affect your results – if you have good logistics, pulling girls will be easy for you, even though your game might suck.

• How to seduce women and get laid consistently, even without logistics, by screening for good logistics

• A few words on after parties

• Why checking into a hotel is a terrible solution

I hope this post was useful to you. If you are interesting in reading more about logistics, check out these posts.

• Preparing for a Night That Ends in Sex
• How to Have Public Sex (and Not Get Caught)
• Book Excerpts: Get Girls in Bed (Without a Bed)
  
• Sex Logistics: How to Get Intimate in Unusual Places
• How to Go to Her Place Smoothly, Even If You Just Met
• How to Take Girls Home with You
• Invite Her Home
  

Now... happy hunting, and happy new year.

Questions and comments are welcome, as always.

Best,

Alek

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