Note
from Chase: Denton Fisher has been actively approaching women
for 4.5 years, with a specialty in same-night lays. He’s taught over
100 students in-field, and is a prolific seducer, posting two to five
new lays a week, and juggling up to seven women in rotation at a
time. His first series of articles on Girls Chase focuses on achieving
mastery picking up and seducing girls. Here’s Denton.
This article is for both the game junkies and the dabblers out there, as well as those who are fighting to master your own individual fields. It is all the same. Reaching mastery in any field will have the same patterns/similarities, and one of the major ones is the quest to find a mentor.
This is something I am good at and is the single biggest reason why I have developed my game to the point it is at now. With that being said, let me share with you why I have acquired half a dozen pick-up mentors of extreme skill over the course of a year.
Reality Check
Firstly, if you are under the belief that you are going to be the exception to the rule of mastery, that you are going to reach pick-up glory without mentorship, I have some bad news for you. You are not a special snowflake, nor are you the exception to the rule. Your mom can tell you that till she is blue in the face, but unless you can get under the wing of some skilled individuals, you will reach mediocrity at best and at worst become the local weirdo forever scorning anything with a vagina.
My Story
For me, all I wanted to do was kill it in the seduction community. I wanted to be the best. I hustled my ass off going out more than everyone else, putting everything in my life on the back burner, deciding to put all of my fuel into this skill.
I learned from everyone around me, found the best, and ran with them. I got better and better until soon I was the best. Realizing I had become a shark in a pond full of guppies I looked to find open water and a mentor to teach me. So I had to move and find myself someone of remarkable skill and convince them to at least hang out with me regularly. I studied and kept my eye out for opportunities all the while visualizing what I wanted. Then I got it. A large pick-up company was looking for interns with killer game skills.
I wrote a monster of a cover letter, sent in pages of lay reports, and stayed persistent. 4 months later I was on my way to work in my favorite field on the path to do what I loved doing alongside mentors with massive seduction skills. What did I do? What do I continue to do? How have I learned to be selective in who I learn from? And what can you do in your current situation to get a mentor now?
Below, At, and Above
With this being understood, it is often overlooked all the people you can learn from in their own way. If you want the reach mastery you should run with people of varying skill sets in your field. You should hang with…
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People below you to teach and make subtleties in what you do more concrete. Be careful with people at this level though, and make sure, as one of my favorite mentors told me, “to wear a mental condom”; realize their thoughts can be cancerous given too much attention and can stunt your growth. Their thoughts have them getting their results and if you adopt them you will get nothing but the same.
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Ones at your level that understand where you’re at and can grind it out along side you and (a) mentor(s) that see where you’re at and can push you. Brothers in arms, essentially.
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And finally someone above you.
The first two are easy to get, the last one can be a bit trickier. Where can you find them and attract them?
In Person vs. Online
I will not knock online mentors. If it is all you can afford or can fight for at the time, then go for it. But do not rely solely on online products to help you.
If you cannot get a mentor and you want to stay at an intermediate stage in your skills, online content is not so bad. But if you truly want to kill it in a massive way, get out there and find the masters and seek them out. It is one thing to hear what to do or even to see it through a monitor, but to learn it in a big way you want to be running alongside the guys who can pull many of the techniques off you hear about to great success.
Seeing it firsthand does a few things. You garner buy in, you can see all the nuances of what someone at that level does, and you can learn it not just via your home but in the field where you can immediately try it yourself to get feedback. Not to mention by being around someone like this you will start to adopt his attitudes about the world through osmosis.
How to Attract Mentors?
The position of a protégé to a master of any field is a highly competitive position and will have its competitors. What do you have to offer to the pick-up gods? What do you have to exchange? Is it a skill-set, something of monetary value (money, housing, or even something as simple as a nice meal), or are you a broke bastard like me who has nothing but his charm and wit to keep him afloat?
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Monetary: If you are well-off financially or have something of value hanging around these guys will be easy, just fork over the cash. For the right price no one will say no. Or if it is someone whose services do not currently have a market value, offer something he could want. And if all else fails, offer to buy him a steak.
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Skill Set: Do you possess a valuable skill? Great! Just offer a simple exchange. A tic for tack.
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Positive Outlook on Life: This is the hardest way to get a mentor in the community, but sometimes it is just enough. Use your charming personality to win and befriend them and offer free work even if they do not ask it. Try to remind them of themselves when they were younger.
Do Not be Fooled by Charlatans
There are too many gurus out there that claim to have the skill, but for too many it is just a marketing ploy in a business scheme that is made to maximize profit. Do not fall for it. Look for proof of their skill. Do they go out? Do they have women you would want yourself? Have you seen them infield or do they just have an army of yes men? Now what would someone possessing superior skill in this field look like? This question is oftentimes asked and often goes unanswered. I find this to be one of the biggest problems with the community.
I am lucky enough to say that I have gamed with the world’s best as well as the people buried so the deep in their moms basements a lifetime of virginity might be their only choice. I will make it easy to categorize different skill-sets into four categories; noobies, intermediates, advanced, and world class, to give you a good overview of where you are and to also gauge the potential value of a mentor.
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First, you have the hard cases and the noobies: you guys have a hard time hooking and you at best get sex very rarely if ever. You don’t know when you are doing something wrong and the concept of game is foggy. You would settle for any girl that would take you. Shy and introvert are your calling card and creepy awkward vibes are common in all your sets.
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The next are intermediates: you get sex sporadically but you do get it. To your normal friends you may appear to be a pimp/player, but this is a façade that covers up insecurities. The game is starting to become a little less foggy. You can tell when you mess up, but when it comes to fundamentals or a deep level understanding of game, you do not have it.
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At an advanced level you understand game and can get girls to chase you. You have sex with the occasional bombshell and can get sex 1-2 times a week from consistently going out.
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The final level guys are the guys with world class game. These guys can be actors, movie stars, and top level PUAs. These guys are one in hundreds of thousands. They have pushed pick-up to it damn near being an art. They bend your mind and make you wonder ‘how the frick (not the word I want to use but it will do) did he do that?!’
No they cannot point and shoot down any girl. That is not possible and any guy claiming that is full of crap. These guys can play the hand they’re dealt well, being able to flip bad ones where someone else would have failed and playing out good ones with ease. They can get girls to beg and can crack dimes (real dimes, not your small town cute girls). They are so far above most that what they can do is the stuff of legends.
If a pick-up guru claims he can do anything other than what is said above this warrants investigation and caution. Do not throw your valuable resources at a con artist.
And as for spending of resources, I personally wouldn’t spend any more than friendship to someone at a beginning or intermediate stage but I wouldn’t mind spending a pretty penny to hang out with anyone who is advanced or better.
Game Etiquette
Just like anything else there are a couple rules to abide by:
Rule #1: Take Action and be Positive
This one is widely known for anyone who studies this seriously. Most don’t care where your game is as long as you are not a try-hard, have a positive altitude, and take a lot of action. We should be impressed with how hard you are going. When you get to a certain level it can be rejuvenating to watch someone with spirit and a love for the craft.
Rule #2: Don’t Talk Game
No one at an advanced level talks about picking up women when they are picking up women. They do not self-judge or want you to. At best they will talk logistics but the majority of game should be done without too much thought. The course of the night is all about gaming yourself and any fault in it should be analyzed out of the venue once you are alone in your room.
How to Act in the Face of a Potential Mentor
Don’t treat them like an object. Be empathetic towards them and care about them. Don’t be a sociopath trying to get his way without giving anything back, and in the same vein do not treat them like they have celebrity status. Both of these will repel anyone with any skill away from you.
Be a Good Soldier and Follow Orders
Guys that are good at game oftentimes love it in the same stroke. Understanding this, if you aren’t paying for their services ask for advice sparingly and understand that if you are around someone like this they will spill on little nuggets of information given time and half the game will be simply learned through osmosis. Do not try to force it out of them. True lovers will teach regardless of the prodding; if you force it it can be perceived as needy.
However, as you receive information they give you, act on it. Try out anything they tell you to do without question and try to absorb the ever loving hell out of it. They will be both impressed and flattered you do this and will love the gusto.
Realize When You Have Outgrown the Nest and be Prepared to Fly
Sooner or later if you are intelligent about your apprenticeship you will soon be eye-to-eye skill with your mentor. At this point it is time to act. Do not allow the mentorship itself to stunt your growth. If you have outgrown it realize it and prepare to seek a new mentorship or to leave the safety of your master’s tutelage and start exploring the realm for yourself.
Summary
In closing, do not expect to get a mentor without giving. Search for the real deal and once you find it realize a pick-up mentorship is a two way street. You will have to give to get and my advice is to try and give more than you get.
Good luck on your journey and peace out!
Denton
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