When
approaching women, sometimes you will encounter a bratty attitude,
where girls act like they don’t want to be approached even if they
actually do.
Throughout this article, I will be referring to these “bitchy girls” as having “approach walls” (also called “bitch shields” in the pickup community, but let’s use a nicer sounding term!).
Today we will look at why women sometimes become this way when we approach them, and then we’ll talk about how to handle that behavior. After reading this post, you will never again have to wonder why women are being bitchy to you when you approach them. And, believe it or not, rarely is it about them not being attracted to you…
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Vagina is Overrated
This is a lot of work to get a woman to me girls are overrated I much rather focus on my career and intellectual life. It seems like more work than reward: the constant failing, losing self-esteem, and you wonder whether you are ugly. Pussy doesn't even feel that great it kinda of feels like tight, hot, wet, hardish jelly that contracts. Idk as much as I would love to change my sexual orientation to asexual obviously I can't do that, castration is not an option because I'll still be sexually attracted to females. How the media and everyone else act like pussy is like the center of the universe. I like girls who have nice character idk much about looks because it's superficial to me and I do want to sleep with lots of women but not any woman just people who I like and get along with. Some women, like ghetto women, I will never associated myself with and most unfortunately I live in a place full of 'em. Is there any way I can be good with women who I like the character of and not get rejected constantly and not lose my self-esteem? I mean we all have a dark side and we all are flawed but I want girls who are not "oblivious" and who accomplish a lot because I'm working on myself. Basically, I want people who think somewhat like me. This site is helpful and it is not like those other "feminist fake chivalry" website but I'm not willing to put all this work for women who I don't want I much rather work on myself.
It sounds to me like you need
It sounds to me like you need to try looking at sex and dating and relationships from a few different perspectives. There are a lot of good articles on this site discussing mindsets and lifestyles, and I'd recommend reading them before making up your mind.
On work and approach, it seems more or less getting rejected and working through low points is just a part of it.
You seem pretty self improvement oriented, might I suggest looking at all this work as another way to improve yourself?
I'd say more, but my date is here ;)
Re: Vagina is Overrated
Anon-
You're in auto-rejection: Secrets to Getting Girls: Staying Out of Auto-Rejection. While the article linked to discusses not putting women into auto-rejection, men suffer the same effects when they feel women are too unattainable for them. Better to be conscious of ego-protective reactions than to be a slave to them, I say. Means you have room for improvement.
Whether learning to be successful with women is "worth the work", there's an article up on this already: "Do You Really Need to Learn Game to Get Girls?" No one said you must do everything on this site; most of Alek's articles are advanced game, and will be great for men who are already intermediate or advanced themselves and want to aim even higher, but possibly demoralizing if you're reading them as a beginner and expecting yourself to be able to do this right away, same as reading books on advanced M&A negotiation and closing might be if you're still way down on the totem pole from that role and it seems like you're never going to get there but think you SHOULD be there already by now.
I suspect both your psyche and career would be better off had you put the work in already and now were able to effortlessly get the women you want than they are as they are now, with you stuck wrestling with a shortage of ability rather than plunging into either (or both) getting women or furthering your career with 100% focus and 0% doubt. The longer you put that off, the longer you put off the freedom of fully focusing on the things you want to focus free of the distraction of an unsatisfied Maslow's hierarchy of needs pyramid base.
As for castration, it will indeed cancel your sex drive, once the last of the testosterone clears from your system. Of course, you won't have much career motivation at that point either, since men's drive to achieve is just another means of mate competition, and without the desire to secure mates, whether with good game or an impressive career, the ambition to pursue any of the paths to do so dries up.
Chase
Okay thats cool, but how do I
Okay thats cool, but how do I go on about persisting after they get bitchy? What can I do get past that specific shit test?
Persisting After
Momo-
I believe Alek has an article on this upcoming - in the meantime, this might tide you over some: "What to Do When Girls Act Superior, Rude, and Aloof."
Chase
Women tend to think they are
Women tend to think they are oh-so-precious and the center of the universe. For all their "education" and feminist bullshit they unwittingly subscribe to, when it comes down to the bare minimum the only thing they really have to offer is what's in between their legs. I personally find any women that act like men and talk like men a big turn-off. I can always tell, too, when a feminist is behind the wheel (they are typically white and ride my ass without any regard for safety). I find joy in slowing way down to purposely tick them off.
But I suppose men are to blame in large part because we put women on a pedestal so that they no longer have to take any initiative or accountability. We spoil them way too much. Concepts, such as competition, initiative, and accountability have long become foreign to them. They can act like bitches and get away with it.
As my friend best puts it once, we men have to do all the work or we don't get shit. I'd really like to see the shoe on the other feet (the women's) and see how they like it. I, for one, am very tired of the string of rejections over the months and months that I have faced lately.
Like the first commenter, Anonymous, says, my life and the dream I am trying to build is much more important than any woman. She will will readily divorce my ass and take half of everything because she thinks it's her right (and the courts support this!) This happened to one of my co-workers. He had a heart attack and had to medically retired. The girlfriend flew him back home, then emptied out his retirement savings that took him a lifetime to build up, and bailed. It's sad that they will never arrest her. I just hope that God or whoever her maker is will hand down some serious judgement but the cynical side of me knows that bitches like this get away literally with murder. We men have got to stop this nonsense.
Narcissism
Anon-
Sounds like you've either met one too many of these sorts of women:
... who only make up at maximum perhaps 6% of the female population in a developed country like the United States, so if so, you've been fishing in all the wrong pools... OR...
You've been spending far too much time reading feminist websites or bitter dude manosphere websites and getting caught up in "battle of the sexes fever" - you know, that war of attrition that's been raging ever since the first male and female eukaryotes differentiated 1.2 billion years back and that no amount of bitching by either side has ever done a damn thing about?
If that's the case, a thorough detox with these articles is in order:
If you sincerely think men "have to do all the work", that's either misreading or too much self-focus:
And as for the anecdote about the coworker, I would hope you'd direct him to a resource like this place so he can learn how to look out for vultures like this woman was and attract women who are NOT among the ~6-ish percent out there who are leeches and sycophants, instead of just commiserating with him and making him think the world is hopeless and he's just a pathetic victim of evil, scheming women and always will be. One of these makes his life better and allows him to look back on why the things that have happened did and see them in a new light filled with the ability to avoid similar future scenarios; the other, infinitely worse, and makes his world darker and murkier and more confusing, desperate, and doomed.
Chase
6 percent?
While this site is a little too PUA for me, I do find some of the articles and comments interesting. I rarely comment myself, but found this set of comments above rather interesting, and quite often how I also feel.
Perhaps I am a bit above the standard age group that this site caters to. So the number of available women is considerably less, and the percentages given above are completely off at this age range, it's more like 60%+ are crazy bitches.
I'm in my early 50's, was married for 10 years, divorced just over 15 years ago, no kids, president of my own tech firm.
I have dated a number of women over the past 15 years, and EASILY 75%+ of them are nothing but gold-diggers, or they are widowers who hold their dead husbands as the perfect man that no other man can ever attain, or they are hot-cold, or they are totally crazy and messed up.
The vast majority of women I have dated over the past 15 years I never called for a second date, and some of the worse of the gold-diggers I just left in the middle of the first date.
Like Alek wrote...
Like you wrote:
''Women use approach walls and bitchiness mainly to protect themselves from creepy stalkers. Most men become very needy when they are out in clubs and bars, especially after drinking alcohol. So if women display signs of positivity when being approached by a man, they often will end up stuck with a needy stalker.
It is also known that women can have unrealistic expectations. Women believe that the prince of their dreams will pop up anytime, and therefore they reject all the men that are not him (none are, but she doesn’t know that).
But, as the night wanes, her approach walls lower, as the pressing concern of finding a mate increases, and it becomes more and more obvious that she hasn’t found her prince yet!''
Is this reason of ''women using approach wall and bitchiness mainly to protect themselves from creepy stalkers and needy men'' applicable to night game alone or same as the day game/cold approach?
Applicable to All
Hey D'EmpeRoR,
I would say this information is applicable to both scenarios.
Just Dave
Nonverbal Greeetings
Hey I would like to know if there is a way to nonverbally say hello to someone. If someone passes by the street and says "Hi" to me and I have nothing to talk to, to that person how do I say a "Hello" nonverbally? Never been a fan of saying hi after someone does... Seems to me like I'm following someone's lead although not 100% sure. Thanks in advance
Nonverbal
Hey Carlitos,
A lot of times what I'll do is either nod in their general direction, or just do a slight wave then I keep walking. It lets them know that I saw them, but I don't have time to talk.
Just Dave
Girl in a rush
I know this is off topic but please permit me to say it all the same. I'm a Nigerian and I've been following GC for about six months or so. Thanks GC team mates, you guys really helped me step my game; not just seduction alone but life generally.
I have two questions. First off, cockblocking is one problem I keep running into a lot. Just yesterday, I was supposed to take a very cute girl I met on her college campus home but I hit a wall of resistance; not even from her but her ugly sister lol. My girl was faced with a choice of either staying with her ugly sister or following a sexy bad boy home (the ugly sister called me this). Now here's my first question : how can I possibly dial down my sexiness around women I'm not interested so they will see me as a harmless charming guy :D.?
Secondly, 3 days ago I got another girl on a date. We grabbed some ice cream together. We talked briefly for about 20 minutes or so. Then I invited home. She resisted me at first; I simply stopped a cab, got in and she followed my lead, still complaining nonetheless. Well, we got to my pad around 9.15pm. I told her to remove her shoes. She didn't :(, so I knew I would be in for a hard one. When she sat on my bed, she started flipping through the pages of a french magazine I left on the bed. I tried escalating after this but she deftly refused. Its obvious she's been in this kind of situation many times. Anyways, I know I just got myself butted firmly into d boyfriend zone lol. Is there anything I could have done I didn't do?
Look forward to hearing back from you guys.
Ma salam.
Article Links
Hey Ola,
Check out these articles relating to went you encountered. Let me know if these links help.
Stopping Cockblocks
Last Minute Resistance
Take care,
Just Dave
Gonna have to politely
Gonna have to politely disagree on late night approaching. Girls put on their walls more toward the end of the night. Before closing time is when they've already been approached by drunk after drunk with liquid courage and they just want to be left alone. Most are tired from drinking and want to go home. I've seen and experienced this countless times. Better to build some rapport in the beginning of the night or at least in the middle when the girls have loosened up after a couple of drinks and make your move. Waiting till late in the night is just asking to be stonewalled.
Hold on folks, the solution is coming!
I am fully aware that is it frustrating to read a post, covering an issue and all the "why's" without being presented with a solution.
But do not worry, my 3 nexts posts will cover in DETAIL how to handle "approach walls". You will learn how to handle group scenarios, looking out for the right women, handling "bitchy/frumpy" women and more.
The first post should be out at the end of this week!
I decided to do things this way because i prefer in depth stuff rather than just being vague.
-Alek
Alek, where is this magical place where you go out?
Alek, where is this magical place where you go out? Where I live, at the end of the night there's usually way more guys than there are girls. You said there's a time of the night when all the attractive guys are gone and the girls are still there?
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