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What Gets More Girls: The Normal Guy Approach or Pickup?

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Pickup artists study how to get girls... But a lot of PUAs are kinda weird. Is it better to study dating, or to rely on “normal guy game”?

Prelude

This is an article I have been working on since I have started working for Girls Chase. It has been up in my head and I have struggled multiple times to explain this on paper.

Well, here is my first attempt, and my view on normal vs. pickup freak game.

This has been a concept many may find themselves shaking their heads at the pure absurdity of... That someone has broken down something this inconsequential to mere numbers on a graph.

But it is none the less something I thought would make for a good piece (if not perhaps an insufferable one for the wrong readers). So allow me to apologize in advance for my nerdiness.

How to Take Girls Off Their “Scripts”

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If a girl wants to hook up, and you do, that’s easy (well, easier). But what if she doesn’t want to hook up – how do you get her then?

I’m a fan of taking girls “off script.” It makes the courtship more personal and more rewarding for me.

If you want to know what this means, here’s all I mean by a script: every girl has a certain thing she’s on the lookout for at any given time.

For instance, her script may be:

  • I want to find a boyfriend
  • I want to find a husband
  • I want to find a guy to hook up with
  • I just want to make a new guy friend
  • I don’t want to meet anybody right now

Most of the time on Girls Chase, the other writers and I suggest you look for girls who are on the lookout for what you’re looking for. So if you want to hook up, you look for girls who are down for that. If you want a new girlfriend, you’ll have an easier time of it with a girl who’s gunning hard for a boyfriend, much of the time.

This makes life easier, and it’s a surer path to you and the girl you want together in bed or in a relationship.

However, it’s also possible to take a girl off her script and provide her with a different kind of experience. If you don’t enjoy the process of seduction and you just want a girl who wants what you want as fast as possible with as little work as possible, this article won’t be of interest to you (and you’ll want to focus on looking for girls who are looking for you).

If you’re a beginner, I recommend you get good at teasing out signs of interest and approach invitations from girls, and not worry about trying to get girls who aren’t that interested in you until you’ve got more experience (and lays and girlfriends) under your belt.

Yet if the idea of taking a girl who wants a boyfriend and hooking up with her fast, or taking a girl who just wants to hook up or doesn’t want to meet anybody and pulling her into a passionate new relationship with you intrigues you at all, then read on.

Day Game Tips: Make Her Curious

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If you just pop up next to a girl during day game, you’ll startle her. To avoid this – and get a smoother open – let her see you first, and make it natural.

Note from Chase: Daniel Adebayo is a Nigerian living in Canada. He’s been a member of the Girls Chase discussion boards for several years now, at a roughly intermediate skill level with girls and learning fast. His first article, on curiosity and day game, kicks off here.


Day game.

For me, those two words have held so much opportunity since high school. The idea that you could just see a girl in broad daylight and then seduce her – that was the pinnacle for me. And when I first embarked on this journey, I absorbed all the information I could find on this topic, took that material, and hit the streets.

Two years and more than a few approaches later, I’d had so many dates with beautiful girls, and even gotten a handful of them into bed. And yet, I was still quite unsatisfied. Something didn’t feel right. I mean, this was great, I was actually having sex – with hot girls too! But it still wasn’t what I had imagined two years earlier.

You see, the main thing was the amount of effort, or more specifically, the number of girls I was approaching was far in excess of the number of girls I actually got anywhere with.

So I went back to the drawing board, got imaginative, and started tweaking things. And after a few months I ended up with something enhanced, new, and better. It transformed my day game. And I’m sure this knowledge will transform your day game as well.

How to Pick Up Women in Your Day-to-Day Life

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Work, school, while out on errands or your commute. Women are everywhere, and you can MEET them everywhere. With the right approach, of course.

I am a hardcore pickup nerd to the core. I have for the past 5 years set time aside solely to pick up women. This has made me critical toward other seduction strategies in the past under the belief that any other way is unholy.

But after living this long without dying of some serious STD or at the hands of an angry boyfriend, I’ve had more time to develop a deeper understanding of others’ realities. Not everyone can take the time to go out and just straight pick up women. I would never expect to see Elon Musk out developing his verbal skills with women or Donald Trump chasing tail when he’s got important wall-building to do (just joking, don’t hate me).

It is not everyone’s purpose to shag everything that walks, and it would be unhealthy for civilization as a whole if that was our only focus... But guys are still guys and they need a strategy to help them meet women, no matter their living situation.

So I am going to try and help you out as an individual and not as a pickup freak.

How to be Resilient (and Bounce Back from Rejection)

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Resilience: it’s your ability to take a hit (rejection) and keep going. The more resilient you are, the better your odds get with girls.

This week I’ve talked about the beginning being the hardest part, and about the belief some (many?) men hold that women are evil, due to bad experiences with girls, rejections, or even just loneliness, isolation, assumption, or projection.

Today I want to get a little more strategic and give you something you can immediately go out and start to improve on. I’d like to talk about how to be resilient.

If you’re unfamiliar with the subject of resilience in the context of meeting, dating, and sleeping with girls, here’s the explanation in puzzle form:

  • Why is it that one man can suffer rejection from a girl, then shrug it off, go meet another girl, charm her socks off, take her home, and have sex with her...

  • While another man may suffer rejection, drop down into a funk, start to feel bad about himself, feel bad about women, not talk to another girl the rest of the day, and go home alone?

The answer to this riddle is ‘resilience’ – the ability to bounce back from defeat; to take a hit and stay in the ring.

Because if you can’t shake off a hit, you’re just one big blow away from ‘crushed’.

But if you can shake the next hit off, you stand a pretty good chance to get that date, get that girlfriend... or just plain old get laid.

You Only Get One Second Chance

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Talk’s over and she’s gone away. Then there she is: she re-approaches you. Get the re-approach right and she’s yours. But mess up, and, well...

Cold approach is hard.

You get a brief moment with a stranger, and if you do well she gives you some windows. Sometimes things reach a natural end though, where you don’t get the girl then, but it’s time for things to end.

You take her phone number, plan to meet her later, and that’s it for now.

Or maybe it hadn’t gotten that far, and you just say farewell.

Sometimes if she really likes you though... And she starts to feel like she should’ve made her interest clearer or left a window open for you... She will return.

She’ll present herself again, and she will give you a second chance.

She’ll re-approach you, or give you an explicit verbal or nonverbal signal.

But if you don’t jump on her re-approach, that’s usually going to be it.

You’re finished if you miss it.

You might have another shot with her later if you know her via social circle... If you fix attainability and build the preselection to interest her in you again.

However, if it’s cold approach, 99 times out of 100 you’ll just never see her again.

What to Do When a Girl Rebuffs You

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What do you do when she rolls her eyes or sticks her hand in you face? How you handle it is down to if it’s a soft rebuff or a hard one.

Three girls in a nightclub, dressed flashy, keeping to themselves. The redhead was in a shiny, sexy beige dress. The blonde was in tight jean shorts and a white top with no bra. They had an older gal with them, perhaps late 30s, curly black hair and defiant.

I watched one man walk up to them, get spurned, roll off.

Another guy approached; snubbed, and he left.

So, I waited. And after a time, I saw my opening: we’d all moved out to a quieter part of the venue, and at some point the three girls moved out into the same area, out of the loud dance club part.

I was with a few friends who were good with girls but weren’t habitual cold approachers, and they debated whether to make an approach or not. I was just there to spend time with my friends, not to meet girls per se. But I set down my glass and walked over to them.

The girls saw me coming and closed ranks; another sad man to reject. When I reached them, the older gal gave me a half second of eye contact before she put her hand up in my face dismissively and turned away; the blonde wouldn’t look, and the redhead stared off, a bitchy look on her face.

A minute later, I had all three girls laughing and smiling with me. And when after I chatted with my friend, who’d watched the whole thing, all he could ask me was, “What did you say to them?”

5 Signs a Club is Good to Meet Girls At

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How do you know which nightclub is good to meet girls at? Because it’s almost never the popular club. Here are 5 signs to help you find the best nighttime venue.

Not all clubs are equal. Some think that success with girls is all about knowing how to pick up chicks. Yet in truth, it is logistics: everything that surrounds the process plays a key role in the process.

Have you ever noticed how you never or very rarely get laid in those super famous or popular local clubs? Everybody seem to love them and vouch for them, yet every time you head there you get nowhere.

I will discuss why that is so in this post.

In addition to that, there are a few signs one should keep in mind when selecting a venue. These signs will stand out to you after you read this article... Yet these aren’t signs regular men are aware of usually. This post and its five (5) signs will make club game much more enjoyable/effective.

Now keep in mind that no clubs are perfect... Or at least, very few are. However looking out for the best possible venue is key. Clubs that score positive on several of the factors in this post do exist. Yet, there also are far too many clubs that score low on every factor we’ll discuss – and yet those clubs may become popular regardless.

Let us begin with our first sign a club is good to meet girls at, and examine a common misconception... Namely, that huge clubs are the best clubs.

Tactics Tuesdays: How to Pick Up the Alpha Female

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The alpha female is the dominant girl in her group, and to get her, you’ll have to be a little different than you will be to pick up her follower peers.

It’s been nearly three months since I wrote the first installment in this series, “Girls in Groups: How to Tell Who’s a Leader or a Follower.” I finally just sat down to write Part II: how to pick up the leader.

If you didn’t read the first part of this series, click back and give it a read. If you can’t tell the difference between leaders and followers, this article won’t do much good. We’ll talk about identifying some of the signs of leadership vs. followerdom here too, but that first article’s the real roadmap on this.

Once you’ve read that, let’s talk alpha females. First off, why would you want to pick up the leader of the group? Aren’t those usually the toughest, meanest chicks? And aren’t they often the fat or ugly ones?

Well, not necessarily on that last. And as to the rest, it’s all part of the fun.

Hook Her Emotions to Yourself in Nightclubs

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Nightclubs are a sea of stimulation for girls. And you can lose them if you let them grow TOO stimulated. So how do you keep control?

Hi everyone. Last week I discussed how states affects women in night clubs. Today I will discuss why focusing only on buying temperature – i.e. making her excited and horny, can often be a bad solution in clubs.

It is commonly believed that in clubs it is all about making her horny and excited – you need to be bold, physical and fast. It is absolutely possible to get laid by doing so, but oftentimes it is because the luck factor kicks in.

Unaware of this many clubbers believe this is the best way to get laid, because it worked a few times and it seemed so easy, only to discover that their upcoming outings where not as consistent as they had hoped for.  They will get make outs, but the girls will just run away and either just disappear or she might not as into your anymore or worse she might hook up with somebody else. How frustrating, right?

However, before one truly gets really demotivated, they tend to rationalize their failure with “just being unlucky” and they tend to persist hoping to finally score the girl. I have seen this happen so much. Now even though this can work if they play the numbers game for long enough, it is not ideal.

There are cases where focusing on buyers temperature – i.e. making her horny and stimulated (usually by escalating physically) actually worked, and I will get to that later. Let me first cover why only focusing on stimulus is so often be a bad idea.