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Dating App Gurus vs. Pick Up Artists: What's the Difference?

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By: Chase Amante

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More and more, guys who succeed with women on dating apps are claiming their way is the 'best way.' But do these guys have superior seduction skills – or are they full of hot air?

When I was a seduction neophyte, cutting my teeth on game, everyone agreed: online dating was good for a few easy lays and a little momentum. Nevertheless it wasn't where you wanted to hang your hat.

There were guys then who specialized in it. But the rule of thumb was, the more into online a guy was, and the less 'real world', the more of an introverted, and frequently kind of odd, guy he was. Online was its own unique niche... but nobody went around equating it with pickup. The two were different things.

Online and pickup/seduction overlapped in some ways. But online always only ever covered a subsection of the skills and tool sets a man learned in cold approach pickup.

Recently, however, there's been a sort of ideological schism.

With the normalization of dating apps, the number of men whose lays come mostly or entirely from dating apps has skyrocketed.

And, increasingly, these online dating guys are getting some rather large egos.

Pickup and Seduction Gambit: The Tourist Frame

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Do you feel extra liberated and sexually adventurous when you travel? Girls do, too. This gambit is designed to tap into those same feelings with local girls.

Ever see a dating tactic you wanted to try that felt outside of your comfort zone? If you meet women from cold approach, you already know that progress is your reward when you push past comfort zones. It’s what separates gritty men from unproductive dreamers.

Maybe there is a transition phase you need to master so you can take new girls to bed more often. You may have also been looking for more opportunities to sharpen your frame control abilities.

Or perhaps you’ve decided to improve your technical game and level up your seduction skills, enabling you to minimize the luck factor with your dream girls as you journey toward absolute abundance.

But if only there were something definitive you could use for effective practice, like a set of training wheels to help you test pickup techniques, learn them, and internalize them. Then you could become a skilled seducer who develops his personal and practical applications of girl-getting concepts.

This is where gambits and routine stacks come in.

Because seeing or memorizing examples of frame control, pickup lines, sex talk, and fascinating conversations can give you a helpful boost for your learning curve in the art of conversation.

Some Girls Test Men Early in the Game, Others Test Late

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By: Alek Rolstad

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Girls will test men before opening up to sex. But just because she throws you tests early on doesn’t mean the whole seduction will be tedious. The opposite is also true.

Hey guys, and welcome back.

Today I want to cover a VERY COMMON bias that I see a lot of men fall for. It is also one that I have been prone to fall for myself.

One assumes that just because a girl seems difficult in one aspect, she is difficult in EVERY aspect.

This is not always the case. I will explain why and share some personal experiences.

You can see how this bias can have a detrimental effect on your success with women. You will drop women who could have been good mates because you wrongly perceived them as unattainable or too much work, when in fact, they weren’t.

This bias holds you back. But being aware of it will:

  • Make you aware that pickup and seduction is not always as hard as it seems, adding motivation and less frustration.

  • Embolden you to go for amazing women you would otherwise screen out.

  • Help you avoid demoralization during the pickup. By facing challenges, you do not get discouraged by assuming everything with this girl is hard.

Let me explain this bias, then share examples.

Master the Vibe: The Best Seducers Attune to Vibe

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By: Chase Amante

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Beginner seducers often focus a lot on rules. Yet master seducers may break rules. The reason? Rules are only good so long as they help the VIBE.

A long time ago, there was a monthly subscription course called Master the Vibe (MTV) put out by a couple of guys I really respected. Some of my early newsletters went out to the MTV email list, back before I'd founded Girls Chase.

The Master the Vibe product was simple: one of the coaches would go out, record himself picking up a girl, mostly during the daytime, then they'd break down the pickup from first approach to the close of the seduction (typically with the girl back at his place or in bed). It was a wonderful product.

At the time, I thought the name Master the Vibe was curious. Just sort of a neat-sounding name, that referred to vibing, because being able to vibe is good, and having a good vibe is good.

Yet as I moved beyond intermediate with girls, and as I began to hang out with more and more highly skilled naturals, I realized vibe isn't just a thing that helps you do better with women (and people in general).

Vibe is actually kind of the point.

The Many Benefits of Learning Indirect Day Game

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By: Tony Depp

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Direct openers are great for some guys, but they can get old. Once that happens, or if you’re just not into them, go indirect. It can really pay off with practice.

When I first started learning pickup, almost nobody was doing direct day game. Not as we know it, anyway.

Now it’s all the rage, with day game videos amassing hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube and new day game coaches breeding like rabbits.

I think it’s great. The more men who learn how to find their balls, the better. I just want to point out that you’re stunting your growth if you limit yourself to this one style.

Tactics Tuesdays: Interest Bait

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By: Chase Amante

interest bait
When she's just about to reject you… or she isn't, but the conversation's grown stale… or you just need a boost… break out the 'interest bait', and suck her back in.

Wanna know something you're sure to find useful with girls?

By asking an intriguing question, or making an intriguing yet unfinished statement, you can draw someone in.

You can use this 'interest bait' to prop up slumping conversations. It's also great as a boost to otherwise okay interactions that could benefit from stronger energy.

Questions and statements like these serve as a powerful tactic for transitions from one conversation topic to another, too.

Such a tactic can even let you stop in her tracks a woman who's about to walk away (as I discussed in a few examples in my article last week on women who are closed off or impossible).

This is a simple tactic to use.

It also isn't anything new. I've used plenty of such questions and statements in my examples in articles throughout the years, as have the other authors here. Alek Rolstad makes good use of interest bait in his excellent 9-part series on hooking girls in, which any serious student of seduction owes a read.

Additionally, simply by using interest bait you set yourself up as a sort of authority (which is in itself attractive).

That's because, usually, the only people who talk this way are people in authority positions. So long as it comes across congruent, interest bait is powerful to use.

Yet few men use it. You ought to be among them.

Pickup vs. Seduction: Is There a Difference? (Yes!)

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By: Chase Amante

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Pickup: the art of finding a girl to take home. Seduction: the art of influencing her mind, to create desire and other urges. How do the two relate… and which is better?

On Tuesday I talked about succeeding with closed or 'impossible' girls... inspired by a tussle over the subject we had on the Boards.

There's another nuance I want to discuss before we wrap this subject up though. That is the distinction between pickup and seduction.

While related -- and while the two terms are often used interchangeably (including by me) -- they are in fact different.

Knowing what the difference between the two terms is will aid your thinking about both... as well as your ability to use each area in the most effective way.

How to Get Attention Seeking Club Girls to Have Sex with You

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You’re in a club. A girl walks by and grabs your ass. Then she bolts and won’t talk to you. WTF? She’s an attention seeking freak, and here’s how to get her in bed.

Hey guys, and welcome back.

Today I’ll respond to a question guys have asked on the forum. I assumed other men would enjoy having this question answered, too.

The question is: How do we deal with freaks in clubs?

Freakiness tends to be amped up to 11 in night club scenarios. Some of you may not be familiar with the term “freak.” It was coined by a deceased seducer called PlayerSupreme (RIP). According to him, there are three types of women:

  1. Good girls (nice, kind, affectionate girls); however, HE NEVER claimed that those girls were asexual Madonnas

  2. Hoes (the gold digger and status seeker)

  3. Freaks (weird girls who use their sexuality to gain power and get male attention; they tend to have higher sex drives than other women, but not always)

So, today’s discussion will be about how to deal with the third type of woman. For a better idea of what we are discussing, here’s an example.

Say you are at a club having fun. Out of the blue comes this girl who tells you something sexually explicit, acts in a sexually explicit way, or touches you in a sexually explicit way.

She may tell you how much she likes sucking dick, or perhaps she simply comes up to you, grinds her ass on you, or even touches your dick.

And you, happy as a clam, believe she is doing this because she is:

  • Super horny (easy prey)

  • Very sexually open, one of those “sexual women” (I have discussed this topic many times; this is usually a bias; those who seem most sexually open are not necessarily those who are)

  • Really into you

Pleased and excited, you reciprocate her move. You start showing sexual interest in return. You may touch her or make an overt move.

Only to realize that the moment you do, she walks away.

When you try to re-engage, she turns cold or starts ignoring you. It is frustrating. What the heck just happened? (I'll answer this in a bit.)

Even worse, you realize she’s now flirting with another guy, probably doing the same thing she did to you.

“But she was such easy prey; she showed so much interest in me.” You are a bit dumbfounded and creeped out.

The truth is, you have been played. And I will tell you how and why.

Choose Your Battlefield: Day Game, Night Game, or Cross Game

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Which pickup style should you specialize in, day game or night game? Or both? Each has its own skill set and takes considerable effort to learn. Here’s what to consider.

We all know cold approach is the best way to meet women.

But when you’re new to seduction, it can be difficult to decide. Day game or night game? Where should you focus your efforts? And where should you apply the advice you read here on Girls Chase?

While there are distinct strengths you will develop while making progress on each path, as well as specific weaknesses that students of each often struggle with, most seducers who get really good at socializing become adept at just half of the full cold approach experience.

So it’s quite natural even for experienced players to feel curious about the other side of seduction.

Now, just like the age-old debate on whether night game or day game is better, the answer to whether or not you should train yourself in the full cold approach experience will vary from person to person.

There are indisputable benefits to cross gaming, and if you’ve read my primer on this subject, you already have a clear picture of where I stand and why I arrived at this decision. It’s not required reading for today’s discussion, so if you haven’t read the primer, worry not.

Club Game: Get Noticed and Make the Right Impression with Girls

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Clubs are pits of sexual chaos, but nothing goes unnoticed. To position yourself as a guy who is destined to get laid, you’ve got to manage how you’re perceived.

So you are amid all the lights and the hammering bass, girls are in revealing outfits, and lots of alcohol is flowing. You want to get physical, but what do you do to make it happen?

In theory, everything is just right for mingling and getting things started, but in reality, most guys are hovering around the edges, and girls are self-isolating in their groups defending against the crass approaches that will inevitably be flung their way.

As a perceptive guy, you feel stuck in the middle, between the guys hovering around the edges and the girls who are assuming all incoming guys are missiles they ought to deflect.

You don’t want to be seen and rejected as one of “those guys,” but even worse, you don't want to just stand back and do nothing!

So how do you get physical in a club? By being observant and becoming skilled at reading and communicating body language.

Let's dive in.