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Note from Chase: Eric’s one of our senior forum members, and a past contributor to Girls Chase – and I’m thrilled to announce that he’s recently rejoined us as a regular contributor. Eric’s writings are meaty and dense (he is our resident master strategist, and you probably won’t want to peruse through one of his posts when you’re in the mood for some light reading), but if you want something that’s going to make you look at the deeper layers of seduction and come away with a stronger sense of how things work at their most fundamental levels, Eric is without a doubt your man. Without further ado, here he is.
When I am asked, “What’s the best and quickest way to get laid?”, my answer is – short of suggesting one hire a prostitute – a single word:
Process.
And then I repeat it,
Process, process... Process.
It’s not game, it’s not charisma, it’s not dominance. It’s not even looks, and it’s not logistics. It’s not money and it’s not power. It’s process.
When you look at yourself, and when others look at themselves, and ask “Why is this not working?”, “What are my weaknesses and why am I not getting laid?”, the answers given are usually along the lines of:
- I wasn’t flirty or sexual enough
- I wasn’t dominant or leading strongly
- I’m not as attractive as others. If only I was more handsome; had a sexier body
- I’m not moving through interactions quickly enough and escalating
- I can’t get good logistics and get a girl alone
- I can’t get women to commit and not flake on me
- I can’t get women chasing
The list goes on. Now, I’m not saying these are WRONG. These are good things to think about in terms of getting better at women; the fundamentals.
However, these are also red herrings to the most basic question, and most typical purpose of men for learning seduction: “How do I get laid?”, or for the more monogamous, “How do I get a girlfriend?”
Comments
Excellent article but..
I truly appreciate you coming back to Girlschase, as the bigger picture outlook is very important to not forget. However as an engineering major in a university, I am inevitably irked by how you describe your graphs. Your definition of time is a bit vague, as in do you mean time spent on ONE girl or time spent on the ONE process? In the first graph, you call the x-axis the "position" and in the second graph, you call the x-axis is the "time invested" (in what? and per what unit?). While for the y-axis, you call the x-axis in the first graph "investment by men" and the y-axis in the second graph "position". The units aren't consistent, which is confusing.
So, can you clarify a bit more on these graphs? I believe they have great potential to really enhance what you're saying but right now the units are pretty inconsistent.
Questions regarding age
Eric,
Great and informative post. However, I am curious as to how old you are and how old the women you seduce are? This is relevant to me as I am older.
Thanks in advance
Lots of Insight, Eric. Love
Lots of Insight, Eric.
Love this part especially," Why doesn’t he just find a new girl?"
Two Practical Questions
A very juicy article, Eric.
As I happen to be in a transitional phase of my life during the last 2 years, I see similarities between your life as a "recluse" and mine; in fact, my personal life in 2013 was based exclusively on cold approaching women. So, two things come to mind:
1) How many women should you approach per month in order to have the necessary flow you are talking about and consequently have the luxury to discard prospects with women who are anything less than "fond of you"? In 2013 I approached 25 women per month on average and I got 1 date per month on average. Not all dates of that year translated into sex. I feel that 25 women per month is too low to give me the luxury of being as strict as you would suggest.
2) Many women have a need for "romance" which practically falls into the middle part of the graphs you give. How can you both provide this sense of romance, while being fast about it at the same time? It seems to me from your description that you would only deal with "yes women" and leave aside any women who are on the fence with you.
Thank you
I can't answer for Eric, but
I can't answer for Eric, but I can tell you that good PUAs are pretty consistent with their numbers and percentages. They operate anywhere from 2 to 5 percent "profit margins" for their cold approaches; i.e. they sleep with around 2 to 5 percent of the total girls approached per year. KrauserPUA posted his stats for 2013 along with Tom Torrero (two well known British day gamers). Krauser was at 2.7% for the year or 27 lays out of 1000 approaches. Torrero was somewhere around 30 lays for roughly the same amount of approaches. I've seen the numbers expressed as % of total approaches or % of number closes. If its % of number closes, then the number is usually 10-12 percent. Paul Janka used to say it took him 11-12 numbers to get one lay.
I am interested in Eric's percentages though, if he knows them.
Love love love that you
Love love love that you highlighted 1 particular point that's totally lost in the greater seduction community.
Escalate and spend your time on the ones who like YOU. Guys miss this so much. "What are your numbers/success rate/whatever from a phone number. Answer is.. It means nothing. If the girls don't like you. It's 0%. If they like you its 100%. And if you're not yet sure what category she's in. Screen her then let her come to you or forget about her and meet someone else.
This just makes me feel GOOD
Eric:
As you know I've always enjoyed your posts on the forum, and I'm glad to see you writing another article now for the main site.
For some reason, just reading this piece makes me feel happy. I can't quite put my finger on why.
I think it's the picture you paint of a very joyous and fulfilling existence. It's what I've so often daydreamed about... cutting off all the non–value-adding social connections that take up time and burden your life, and spending those liberated hours in romance and happiness.
Make no mistake—I have no illusions about the grit required to achieve this. Your point about refilling the funnel incessantly through cold approach is well taken. The efficient and appropriate allocation of time among the various phases of seduction that you describe makes deep intuitive sense.
And thanks for the reminder about those questions of intent... those disguised escalation windows that offer a shortcut to satisfaction—like a wormhole, or a ladder in Snakes and Ladders... if only we can see that we need to climb them!
I've always been something of a lone wolf at heart, operating smoothly in society but not really needing it, yet maintaining a deep appreciation of the female sex; my favorite character from literature is Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe.
So it's perhaps unsurprising that, while you may not be the most prolific or the most experienced, of all the Girls Chase authors I feel the closest identification with you. You seem to be living the life of my dreams.
-Marty
Escalation Windows
Great article Eric. I wanted to thank you for this article and going into detail on escalation windows. In the back of my head I've often wondered why women will ask such open-ended questions, and I'll think why is she asking me this, what could she possibly want me to say? She already knows what we're doing and what's going on, so why is she asking this? Looking back now I see how many missed hook ups I've had. But at the same time I look forward and know they'll be that much easier to recognize now that I know what I've been missing. This is going to get me so much more ass. You're the fucking man!
Process
Hey team, one question about process, see when i open a girl with a direct complement ive notices that when starting to deep dive and build rapport right away is good, ive also tried out teasing first and being a bit of an asshole because ive been told by the guys on www.daygame.com that it tends to up attraction, and then start building rapport.. how does this work? sometimes i try it and the girl starts to pull away when i begin to tease her.. is it like some kind of push - pull technique and is it always a nessesary part of the process. it would be great if Chase could highlight more this part of the process and how it plays out.
Cheers.
Escalation windows: how do they look like?
If all articles are like this, one of my fav posters already :).
Eric, could you describe a bit more ind depths how do the escalation windows actually look?
Example:
I was walking with a girl in a blatantly "non attractive", "non turistic" part of town to get closer to my place, without any explanation about the final stop.
She said something like "I have no idea where we're going", but never actually asked the obvious "where the hell are we going".
I took that to mean an escalation window.
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