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It’s important to move fast with women. Yet, you can absolutely
overshoot – and get into the habit of rushing with girls instead.
In my article on skipping steps with girls who are thirsty for you, an anonymous commenter asked the following question:
“Good read. How do you reconcile your comment that "time is irrelevant to seduction" with Chase's mantra that one must move quickly? Am I misunderstanding the context?”
Perfect question. I struggled with this one for a long time. Before finding GirlsChase, I definitely understood that women love sex, and that long courtships are signs that you want something serious. Hell, I had once slept with a girl thirty seconds after meeting her. I always knew fast is good.
But I still made certain exceptions – girls who were more conservative, girls who were hotter than my usual catch, etc.
Contents
2. Case Study: Fast, but Not Rushed
3. Case Study: Fast, yet Too Rushed
Then, when I found GirlsChase, I kept running into Chase’s motto of “move fast.” In almost every article, it was there. It infected my brain and eventually opened my eyes to how many girls I’d lost because I didn’t move fast enough.
I changed that – quickly. And my lay count skyrocketed. Women loved how aggressive I’d become.
Yet I also found that the number of girls I took out on dates was still much higher than the girls I bedded (my date-to-lay ratio, if you want to be a nerd). I would make out with them, exchange oral favors, but intercourse was not as frequent as I’d hoped.
Why were these girls not letting me go all the way?
Because I was rushing.
You see, moving fast and rushing are two different things.
Comments
Eureka!
"You should move fast with women, precisely because time is irrelevant."
This sentence right here made everything click. Fantastic writing, Hector, and thank you for answering my question so thoroughly.
Thnks Hec
It's so freeing to know that I can connect with a girl on a deep level anywhere and anytime (as long as we figure how we gonna do it). I remember reading these Tucker Max stories and thinking to myself that this was too good to be true, taking a girl anywhere, living the life to the fullest, this kind of stuff. I was so afraid of everything, everybody, of myself, really, of who I was. But eventually you get to that point where you know who you are, what you want.
I really have a lot to thank. To you, to Chase, to other people too, to some of my friends. I think I owe you even more than the others since you made me read life in a different angle. It really is a big Divine Comedy. And now I play the role that I always wanted to play.
And now I know that feeling of "should have gotten a hotel room" :(
Fingering a hottie in a dark alley still a lot of fun thou :)
Move fast when it feels right
I never got the whole fuck her on the first date mentality. Like, yeh sure that's possible for a small number of girls out there, but most won't. As you said above, they'll think you are using them and then they will think you are a disgusting prick. And also as you said, when you were 'a natural' you still got the girls to fuck you on the 3rd or 4th date or whatever and they still fell for you hard. I feel personally it put's too much pressure on me to be thinking 'I've got to fuck her on the first date or I'll lose her forever!' I mean that's so blatantly stupid and extreme. Personally I like the slow build up (i.e. 'making her doe eyed' like you say above. Makes the sex more meaningful. I'm not saying be stupid about it and spend ages wining and dining someone and get nothing for it. No - that's nice guy behavior. But there are shades of grey in between (50 or not I haven't counted). Some of the articles on here (mainly written by Chase) about seeking sex on the first date and moving fast leave a really bad taste in my mouth after reading. It sounds a bit sociopathic tbh.
I guess a better version of 'move fast' is 'move fast when it feels right'. I think that's where you're getting at with the whole time is irrelevant thing. Like it can feel right in 5 minutes where you lock eyes in a club start grinding on her and it v quickly escalates to sex in the club toilet. But it can also feel right after a month of small and slow escalations...first kiss one date, more passionate make out next date, dirty sexting on and off for a week then fingering, oral sex and in a month you're fucking. Like both can work. I know because I've had both. Depends on you, depends on the girl, depends on the situation.
I guess with all this PUA advice and with all advice in general is to take it with a large pinch of salt. Yeh, there is some useful psychology on here, but a lot of it really is overblown and taken to extremes (and taken in the wrong way it will fuck up your perspective on intimacy and relationships). Most of the time, it is our natural gut instinct and intuition that is the true key to seduction.
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