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Is She Shy or Does She Just Want Attention?

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is a girl shy or attention-seeking?It can be tough to determine if a girl is interested but shy… or just wants your attention. Use these telltale clues to figure out which camp she falls in.

Hey guys, welcome back.

(Advanced guys will benefit the most from this post).

Last week I discussed hooking and dealing with positive, neutral, and negative responses to your openers and hook gambits.

I mentioned situations when the girl responds positively, yet not as favorably as you’d like: not positive enough to make you feel comfortable escalating the vibe (touching, sexualizing, etc.).

Perhaps the vibe is great. The girl is smiling, laughing, and displaying many signs of interest, yet you feel stuck and unable to escalate.

She is so hot and cute. You think, “Finally, I am meeting a girl who seems interested!” You want to play it safe and not make a move.

Right off the bat, let me say that this is a terrible strategy.

Remember, any interaction that stagnates and doesn’t move forward will erode. The only exception to this is when the girl is part of your social circle, in love with you, and things will work out anyway. And even then, a stagnating interaction is potentially dangerous.

Consider those typical “all-nighters” with a sweet, compliant girl you believe is genuinely into you. Both of you spend time together, laugh and have fun, only to face major resistance the moment you try to escalate. The best-case scenario: you part ways. The worst-case scenario: some random jerk picks her up.

Never let the interaction stagnate. You have two choices:

  1. If you make a move, things either work out and go uphill or not work out and go downhill.

  1. If you make no move, things will not work out, deteriorate, and go downhill.

Why?

  • She will get bored eventually. Women love the tension and stimulation from interactions when men escalate or attempt to escalate the vibe (assuming they are interested in the guy).

  • If you do not make a move, you disqualify yourself as a confident, sexual man; therefore, she views you as an unsuitable lover. Bad.

  • The frame becomes less sexual as the interaction progresses. But if the frame becomes more sexual, you are less likely to face resistance, including last-minute resistance the moment you try to escalate. The resistance from her cognitive dissonance is caused by experiencing two different perceptions that clash.

So, to calibrate, you need information. When she reacts positively, it’s a reaction you can calibrate to. You can calibrate differently if you receive a negative reaction. If the interaction stagnates, you get no reaction and no information you can calibrate to. You will be in the dark. Not ideal.

You can find more information here: If You're Stuck in a Seduction, Do This.

Let’s say you followed my advice and received a somewhat positive response from a girl (but not as positive as you’d wish, or she is not showing obvious signs of interest). Yet you make a move on her.

But some resistance occurs. Let’s go over four causes of resistance and how to deal with each.

First, a few words about compliance for review.

How to Transition Vibes While Seducing Girls

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transition the vibe in a seductionThe transition between vibes trips up many a man mid-seduction. But why is this so? It’s because vibe transitions must be mutual, and the man has to lead.

A short while back I wrote about transitioning from a social or sexual vibe to an intimate vibe. In the comments, Xander asked about vibe transitions in general. He gave as examples some of the difficulties he’s had trying to transition between different vibes:

Chase,

I wonder how to properly balance the use of intimate and social vibes. I have this "problem" that when I express one type of vibe, I can't do another at the same time, that is, it's very difficult when I try to combine them. Cases go like this:

1. I have a great, fun and bonding conversation with a girl. There may also be some spontaneous sexual tension. She friend zones me after all that. Since I'm already in the friend zone, further attempts to build an intimate vibe are unsuccessful because none of them want to go out with me, but a superficial acquaintance.

2. Strong sexual tension/chemistry is felt before I approach her or at the beginning of getting to know her. Because I'm so horny I can't bring myself to be super social and reach the hook up point when approaching, so interactions with these women are short lived. Also, if we are far away I can't start touching her and if we are close to each other she starts touching me "accidentally" for a while or we both start touching each other "accidentally" before she pulls away and puts up barriers.

3. After some time in the conversation, I manage to show an intimate vibe, so there is everything and an initial good conversation and an intimate vibe. However, when she feels my arousal, she starts to push back towards platonic conversation and thus destroys all sexual tension.

I have read the article in detail, but it is still not clear to me how should we balance these two vibes. Should we give preference to one? Are they used first one and then the other or both at once or both at once and then only one etc.? And most importantly, how do we create a mental state so that we can easily move from one to the other?

Xander’s problem is a common one. It’s among the more frustrating sticking points guys will have once they’ve gotten active in the field and with dating. There’s a certain vibe – a certain feel – to the interaction you’re in… but you want to change it to another.

Except when you try to do that, you fail! Or perhaps you don’t have much of an idea how to do it in the first place.

I’d like to go into a bit more detail about vibe transitions here. Let’s take this tangled, ephemeral subject and make it a bit more concrete.

Picking Up Women in After-Hours Venues

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picking up women in after-hours venuesThe regular nightlife’s over, but the after-hours venues are still on. How do you pick up women from these places – and not risk late-night rejections?

Hey guys and welcome back.

In my last article, I gave an overview of after-hours venues.

These venues remain open after the general nightlife closes. They are the clubs that people go to if they want to party more. They usually attract more of the power-going crowd, like ravers and clubbers. Those may make up half the crowd. The rest will be regular people who have no idea how they got there.

I recommended opting for gay-friendly after-hours places or straight-friendly gay places. They tend to have the most girls with less male competition (most men there are gay).

Gay-friendly after-hours places are not unusual because those places are known as party scenes, and nobody parties harder, longer, and more seriously than gay people. They will readily go to the after-hours venues. Most after-hours venues that are good have a gay clientele.

Those that don’t tend to be sausage fests with primarily straight men.

You may see more men, but most don’t “count” because they are gay. This is even more so in gay venues open to straight people. Even more interesting is that gay and gay-friendly venues often have more girls than those that do not attract the gay crowd.

And no, they are not lesbians.

Tactics Tuesdays: Future Projection + Role-Plays with Girls

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future projection and role-playing in seductionYou know how to project into the future with a girl you’re seducing. You know how to pull her into a role-play. But what happens when you do BOTH?

Here’s an enjoyable-yet-deadly combo seduction tactic that combines two old, great techniques: future projection and role-playing.

Done right, you can use it to lower a woman’s inhibitions with you, making her feel allowed to do things she might otherwise not yet feel allowed to do. From there, you just tell her what to do in the role-play and let her imagine it – or do it.

This tactic can be very effective in mid-game and late game for overcoming resistance or moving a girl into a more sexual state.

Once you see how simple it works, yet how powerful it is, you’re going to want to try it out.

Sex Talk Gambit: Women's Sexual Subjectification

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sexual subjectification gambitWhat if you could take the hot topic of sexual objectification… and turn it into an arousing subject for romantic exploration? With this gambit, you can.

Hey guys and welcome back. It has been a while since we’ve discussed sex talk gambits, and I decided to share one today to add another gambit to my compilation:

STICKIED: Sex Talk Gambits Compilation (And more).

Today’s gambit is ideal to use in early game, as it truly works as chick crack: an attention grab that gets girls talking, ideally what you want in early game since it helps generate a hook and solidify it.

But that does not mean you cannot use this gambit later. You can because you acquire other benefits such as sexual prizing. And sexual prizing is invaluable—conveying that you are a good lover through communicating traits that are usually attributed to great lovers: experience, skills, understanding, plus knowledge about sex, women, and relationships, as well as comfort building and pacing.

I’ll review the mechanisms at play and how to use the gambit.

So here is “the sexual subjectification” gambit. It’s about discussing objectification.

First, I’ll give my definition of objectification. If that bores you and you want to get straight to the gambit and the practical element, you can skip the section below.

Tactics Tuesdays: High Authority Direct Openers

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high authority direct openersMany guys open girls direct in an ‘equal’ or even supplicating way. Yet open from a place of authority and your direct openers get a LOT more potent.

There are a few varying angles to use to start a conversation with a girl.

You have your indirect openers (which include things like opinion openers and situationally relevant openers). You have direct openers (including compliment openers and opening with a statement of interest). Then you’ve got your playful/nonverbal openers, and things like indirect direct, which fall somewhere in between.

Today we’re going to talk about direct openers, but we’re going to speak about a certain strain of direct opener: the high authority variant.

Because when you can mix authority in with a direct opener, you get a direct open of a very different and altogether more commanding, compelling, and attractive variety.

Advanced Sex Talk: Excite Her with the Squirting Gambit

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squirting gambitIf you already know how to sex talk, you’ll like this one. By discussing how to make a woman squirt, you can make her so excited she… wants you to make her squirt.

Hey guys and welcome back.

Today I’ll go through another gambit. This one is bold and explicit. The goal is to convey sexual prizing to arouse a girl. It’s a powerhouse, but it can be tricky for beginners at sex talk to pull it off. So it is more suitable for advanced guys.

Use it mid- to late-game to escalate the vibe and further sexualize your interactions. It’s ideal when you need to spike her so she agrees to go home with you or when you are back at your place and are about to seal the deal!

Of course, physical escalation is also good instead of verbals. You can combine both, although be careful that bold touching plus bold sex talk can be overkill. To learn more about when to use touch versus verbals, see part 3 of my sex talk calibration series for an in-depth discussion.

This gambit is older but very powerful. It may be harder to pull for beginners unless the vibe is strong and:

  • There is already a solid sexual frame set. This gambit can reinforce the sexual frame, not set it.

  • You have already talked about lighter sexual subjects.

With that out of the way, here is the gambit. I will start with a transition, cover the gambit, then discuss the mechanisms at play.

I’ll break down the gambit into three parts. You can view this as one gambit or three interconnected gambits.

Tactics Tuesdays: Embarrassing Stories

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embarrassing storiesThe embarrassing story: told right it can build you up as it entertains. The secret to a good embarrassing story is a “triumphant subplot” lain within.

One big differentiator between extremely socially skilled and comfortable people and everybody else is the highly skilled conversationalist’s use of (superficially) embarrassing stories.

Smoothly Bring Up Sex Talk with Girls (w/ Fractionated Transitions)

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transitioning fractionationTo smoothly enter sex talk, it helps if you can slide the topic in with her barely even noticing. But how can you do that? With a fractionated transition.

Today I would like to share a transitioning technique with a very high success rate for smoothly getting into sex talk. I’ll go over the benefits and some cons; no worries, I will list and explain these. It’s an advanced technique and requires good conversational skills and control. Therefore, consider this an advanced post about a technique I teach my most advanced students.

We all know that transitioning into a sexual subject is great for your interaction as it sets a sexual frame and excites her. But it can be challenging to do because of the nature of the subject (women may not be comfortable talking about sex with strangers for many reasons, but mainly, it can trigger her anti-slut defense mechanism). So, there will be times when you try to transition into sex talk with whatever transitional technique you choose, and no matter what you do, it fails.

She resists, she seems aloof, she seems unexcited, and she looks uncomfortable.

If you encounter any of these reactions, the default rule is to quickly end the subject and switch to something else, as they can be forms of resistance. (But she may just find that particular sexual subject boring. However, act as if you were dealing with resistance just to be sure). It is usually best to stop talking about sex to let things cool off and attempt again later with a different topic and see if that bites.

The problem is if she shows discomfort with sex talk, then that likely will not work. Then it is not the subject that doesn’t interest her, but that she is uncomfortable talking about sex.

The go-to rule is that if sex talk doesn’t work, you should focus on something else:

  • Build compliance by showing mixed signals, demonstrating higher value, or using social proof.

  • Sexualize with physical escalation.

These are all reliable strategies in my book.

Forcing something on someone they feel uncomfortable with rarely works unless you really know what you are doing. You ideally want to use sex talk to get her. It has many benefits when it works!

For those cases, this post comes in handy. Let’s go over transitioning into sex talk with women hesitant to jump into the subject. It’s a bit tricky, but it’s not impossible, hence why this post is for advanced players.

Note that this technique will NOT work on women who show heavy resistance to sex talk. With them, just change your strategy.

Tactics Tuesdays: Priming Women as a Seduction Tool

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priming women for seductionCan you shape the way someone views reality simply by priming her for what to see? Why yes you can – with this unique form of psychological flirtatious fun.

Earlier this month, a reader asked about ways to use confirmation bias as a seduction tool.

Confirmation bias is the phenomenon whereby people who expect to see something look for and take mental note of events that reinforce their expectations.

For instance, if I tell you, “Reading Girls Chase articles puts you in a stronger girl-getting mentality. Finish this article and go anywhere in public today and I bet you’ll notice girls are suddenly paying more attention to you. Why’s that? Read GC, girl-getting mentality.”

Now, if you do go out, you are going to have that in the back of your head. You’ll be more attuned, looking around more for women paying attention to you. That’ll cause you to notice more women who are looking your way, and your alertness will trigger other women to pay more attention to you, too, which you will also notice. So you likely really will get more attention from women.

Was it because reading this article gave you a stronger girl-getting mentality? You’re probably going to think so, because I told you it would happen and what evidence to look for, and you then saw the evidence – my prediction came true. Even if you know what I was doing, the part of your brain that makes connections between things is still going to believe it anyway.

See, what I did was to use something called ‘priming’ to prepare you to react a certain way to things I was fairly certain would occur.

This priming sets you up for confirmation bias to kick in later and reinforce my earlier primes – and you can use this effect with girls, too.