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How to Persist with a Girl When She Resists You

Alek Rolstad's picture
how to persist with a girlGirls may resist when you seek to do things with them. But girls also say they like guys who persist. How do you persist with a girl the right way though?

Hey guys and welcome back.

After a few coaching sessions, I realized that I kept telling my students about an aspect of persistence that I haven’t discussed on the blog before, and it is an important one:

Should you tackle resistance head-on, or back off, let things sink in, and try again later?

In my many posts on persistence, I have advocated for “retreating and taking a few steps back” before persisting again. This advice is still valid. However, there is a nuance or an exception to this rule, which I will discuss today.

I will recap persistence and how to persist correctly before covering the exception to the rule and then explain why this exception applies.

We’re also going to talk about how to persist with a girl in two different seductive contexts here:

  1. How to persist with her when you are escalating things yet she resists

  1. And how to persist with her when you set a frame that she resists

Note: this post is advanced.

Why Do Some Men Pick Up Girls but Most Men Never Do?

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why pick up girlsSome men dedicate themselves to picking up lots of girls. Yet most men never choose this ‘seducer’s path’. Why do some men choose it, while others don’t?

I just finished writing an article on two very different ultimate motivations in seduction, based on von Clausewitz’s absolute vs. limited war. I think the distinction (I’m calling them absolute vs. limited seduction for now, though I might change the names when I publish the article) is enlightening.

Anyway, toward the end of the article, I got into some of the typical reasons men give for not approaching women, or for not attempting to really push to close out their seductions.

In the world of seduction, we typically call these ‘excuses’ and tell men they did not approach or did not close things out due to anxiety, fear of rejection, and so on.

And that is true. But in light of the concept of limited seductions, I’m starting to think it’s also not the entire picture.

We have numerous guys in the community who have confessed to years of false starts trying to get going picking up girls but simply not having the motivation to ever really get going. Some guys start after six months or a year. Many guys need a certain kick in the butt – such as a painful breakup – before they dive in.

Some guys disappear and presumably never become seducers.

All these are men who IN a seduction community – commenting on seduction articles, writing on seduction forums. Most men in the world will never get involved with such things.

Why is it so hard for most men to get into pickup? What is different about the men who actually do get into it, and proceed to excel?

3 Advanced Ways to Be More Charismatic (Be Like the Pros!)

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ways to be more charismaticOnce you have the basics of charisma down, it’s time for the big guns. These 3 strategies let you draw people in like the coolest charismatics around.

The other day I posted my beginner’s guide to charisma.

If you’re new to the idea of upping your personal magnetism, make sure to check that one out.

This one’s for the charismatic veterans… those old smoothies who are already old in the ways of charming the socks off everyone they encounter.

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Just be sure to grab that right now, and use the coupon code “CHARISMAWEEK”, because a day from now that discount’s gone.

Now, let’s dig into the three (3) advanced ways to be more charismatic I have for you today.

I promise you you’ve never encountered these strategies anywhere else… because I’ve never seen or heard them anywhere else!

All these are strategies I’ve used from watching highly charismatic individuals in televised interviews as well as in-person, and each one is one I’ve used and abused for years to get down pat. They all work great, and they ALL increase your charisma.

Let’s dig into ‘em.

Playing Dumb When Girls Act Superior (Flip the Script!)

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playing dumbSometimes girls will give strong opinions or try to lecture you. Rather than get annoyed, you can troll them on this… and seize control of the dynamic.

Yesterday, in a forum post about how to respond to far-left girls engaging in political lectures/rants, Ricardus (remember him?), who is easing back into the game after some time away from it, asked for ways to respond to this type of behavior.

I responded with my stock answer to this type of behavior… haughty, superior, lecture-type or rant-behavior, where people attempt to ‘educate’ you:

Playing dumb and asking questions that completely troll the high-and-mighty lecturer!

This is a somewhat advanced humor-based strategy but it’s hilarious to use and it totally wrecks the high-and-mighty frame of anyone trying to act like he or she knows more than you do – you’ll definitely want to keep it in your back pocket.

You can also use it to troll girls just in general, if you want to flip the script on them and really get them chasing after your validation.

Is She Testing You or Resisting You? Telltale Signs

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testing or resistingSometimes girls’ tests can look like resistance. Sometimes their resistance can look like tests. How do you tell the difference? With a few telltale signs.

Hey guys and welcome back.

In this post, I resume my series about women’s testing of men they are or could be interested in. If you read all these posts, you will be prepared to handle most women’s tests in most situations. Of course, some tests are so unique that they require an odd solution, but usually, those tests are rare. The knowledge you gain from this series will help you find a solution to the strangest of tests.

Many men tend to confuse when a woman is testing and when she is resisting. Today I will clarify the differences between the two. The quick response to this concern is that it is a non-concern. It doesn’t matter what her motive is. What matters is what she expresses and how you respond. What she is doing or why she is doing it is irrelevant. If she is afraid of the slut label, tackle the issue head-on. If she is concerned about going home with strangers, address that issue. It does not matter if her resistance truly is resistance or a test—your response matters.

Although less likely, tests are camouflaged as resistance. If she is challenging your congruency because she is resisting, tackle it head-on as a test of congruency—even if she is doing so to resist.

For those more advanced who want to delve deeper into the subject, read on.

First, a quick reminder:

  1. Testing is a way for a woman to test or steal your frame. By stealing your frame, she is indirectly testing it. If she grabs your frame, it means your frame is weak.

  1. Resistance expresses a concern. She is worried about certain acts potentially leading to feeling negative emotions, pregnancy, risk of violence, or social shaming. Her concern remains valid until that concern is gone—your job is to handle her fears so they vanish, eliminating her resistance.

Theoretically, this distinction seems clear-cut. But practically, it’s a bit blurry.

Let’s go over why this confusion exists by explaining how resistance can sometimes be a test and vice versa before we learn what you can do about it.

How to Get Same-Day Lays: Tips, Tricks, & Advice

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how to get a same-day laySame-day lays are exciting, fun, and enviable. It may not always seem simple to get them though. With these eight tactics, they come much more in-reach.

It’s something of a Holy Grail for day gamers: bedding a girl the same day you meet. (this is a bit more common in night game! Actually it’s a lot… at least for most guys)

There are a lot of girls out there who are open to this though.

It’s not a majority of them, or a plurality of them. But in any city at any given time there is a not-insignificant number of women who for any of a number of reasons would really just like to meet a sexy male charmer who sweeps them off their feet and gives them the experience they need to fall into bed for a satisfying end to a satisfying day.

Of course, that doesn’t mean they will necessarily make it easy for you. They want it to be a good experience for them, too… which means you need to make the right moves to get there.

In this article, we’re going to talk about how to get a same-day lay. I lay out some of the same-day lay tricks, tactics, strategies, and advice I’ve accumulated over the years.

The Dap Trap: When Girls Press & Guys "Dawdle, About-Face, Pursue"

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dawedle, about-face, pursueA girl wants to date or maybe for you to commit. But you dawdle and don’t make it happen. So she gives up – but then, you give chase! Why? The Dap Trap!

There’s a flip-floppy male behavior you’ll see in dating that is so predictable it borders on the comical: something I’ve dubbed ‘dap’, for “dawdle, about-face, pursue.”

How to Pick Up Girls in High-End Venues

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picking up girls in high-end venuesHigh-end venues can intimidate. Everyone’s dressed up, and girls don’t signal to approach. Yet, with game, these venues get easier to pick up girls in.

A few weeks ago, I shared a post about picking up girls in meet markets. Today, I’ll follow up by covering pick-up in higher-end venues. The more a place is a meet market, the more my previous advice applies. Similarly, the higher end the place is, the more today’s advice applies.

You’ll also find places somewhere in between both types, and elements of both may apply. I cannot write a post for every venue on earth, so you must rely on your gut feeling, observations, and trial and failure.

Like my initial post on meet markets, we will discuss the stereotype of real high-end venues.

I delayed writing this post because it was important to share two posts first:

  • Knowing how to get into higher-end venues. A big part of the “high-end venue game” is understanding how to get in. It’s easier said than done, so check out last week’s post if you haven’t already.

Remember that game is game at the end of the day, and we are talking about adjustments, not a full 180-degree switch. It is a matter of calibration. You do not need to relearn game from scratch just to go to the high-end venues.

It just requires a few outings, a few moments of reflection, preferably reading posts like these, then chatting with other co-seducers with experience with such venues to handle them without problems.

Choose Your Romantic Strategy: Alpha, Friend, or Outsider

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romantic strategiesFriend, high status male, or outsider: every man must choose one of three romantic strategies to follow. The choice he makes determines the game he runs and the girls he gets.

As I read the fascinating book The Mating Mind by Geoffrey Miller, I continue to have nice highlights and wonderful little insights.

(previous installment: “Males of Every Species Must Learn Game to Mate”)

My latest highlight comes from this passage by Miller, discussing scientific research into primate (including human) mate selection preferences:

Three kinds of female preference have been reported in primates: preferences for high-ranking males capable of protecting females and offspring from other males; preferences for male “friends” that have groomed the female a lot and have been kind to her offspring; and preferences for new males from outside the group, perhaps to avoid genetic inbreeding.

And it’s a good insight and lets us split up the three different types of men women go for and the different ways they get together with those men. We have of course:

  • High status “alpha male” type partners

  • Kindly “friend zone” type partners

  • Outsider “sigma male” type partners

Anyone advising any man on dating will have his preferences about which of these romantic strategies he recommends as the ideal path to follow… but it will always be one of these three.

Today I’d like to have a balanced look at the differences between these three kinds of men a woman will date.

High-End Venues vs. Meet Markets

Alek Rolstad's picture
high-end venues vs. meet marketsGoing out to meet women? The nightlife venue you choose has a big impact on your odds. Meet markets are good for lower level playboys, but at elite levels, selective is where it’s at.

Hey guys, welcome back. Today I’ll discuss night game.

As you know, venue selection is a crucial part of night game. Selecting the wrong venue (whether it’s not suited for you and your game or just a poor choice) will greatly affect your night and may determine whether your night is successful—or not.

I have written plenty on venue selection and calibration, so I will not repeat myself here.

Today I’ll compare the differences between selective clubs and typical “meet markets.” Which places are the best for pick up? I’ll go over the pros and cons of both types.

Many men dislike more selective places because they can be intimidating. Some men perceive that girls are harder to get there. Some of these girls tend to be more beautiful and seem more reserved. They do not seem to openly flirt or show a sexual vibe.

On the other hand, the typical meet markets tend to have a sexual vibe and girls may be more sexually open and willing to flirt. More importantly, the places are far less intimidating.

So, which places are the best? Most guys starting out in night game tend to favor typical meet markets. Beginners usually go to those venues—the same with intermediate guys. We will get to why that is shortly.

Elite night gamers tend to favor selective venues. There are some exceptions to the rule, but generally, the exceptions are good reasons for not sticking to the norm.