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Balancing Women's Conformist Sides & Wild Sides

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women's conformist side vs. wild sideEvery woman has a social – or conformist – side and a sexual – or wild – side. Most guys though only talk to one of these sides. To succeed at seduction, you must speak to both.

Something that makes guys’ heads spin when they discover it is the seeming dual nature of women:

That women are at once both this extremely conformist sex, and also significantly dirtier than men are.

In fact, I would say that grasping this ‘female contradiction’ and UNDERSTANDING is one major differentiator between the men who are absurdly good with girls from all the rest. Every master pickup artist and every talented natural intuitively gets this ‘contradiction’.

Guys who have not reached mastery yet try to treat these two ‘sides’ of women as if they are different people. Okay, there’s the conformist girl, they think, who is probably an uptight good girl, and you have to be really nice and not upset her with sexual things. Oh! Now there’s the SLUT, whom you can be REALLY forward with, they say, and don’t have to worry about embarrassing at all!

Then the conformist good girl never does anything with them, and they later find out she was having sloppy sex with her new bad boy boyfriend. Next, the slut also spurns their advances! They feel indignant at both these: where does the good girl get off acting like a good girl if she’s going to have sloppy sex with bad boys? Where does the slut get off rejecting ANY guy when she’s a SLUT?

Men who’ve fully integrated women’s conformist and dirty natures in their minds though have no problems with these girls – and in fact treat the good girl and the slut more or less the same. Sure, they’ll be a little raunchier around the slut and a little less so around the good girl, but their overall approach is going to be the same; unlike the less skilled guy, who opts for totally different approaches for both these women.

What is it the skilled guy gets that the unskilled guy does not?

And how do you unite these two seemingly contradictory aspects of female nature?

Case Studies: Wildcard Pickups, Compliance, & Killer Instinct

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seduction wildcards: a few case studiesWhen you find yourself in a length ‘marathon seduction’, where the girl isn’t ready to pull and wildcards abound, how can you win the day? With compliance… and killer instinct.

You meet a girl, she’s pretty hot, se seems to be into you, but you can’t pull her right now. Maybe she’s with a friend or two. Maybe she has things she needs to do.

Interruptions happen. She’s pulled away. Other men start competing for her.

You can keep hanging around with her, but you cannot take her home. Not right now.

Should you stay or should you go? How should you deal with these wildcards? Should you give up and switch to a different target?

Just last week, I wrote a post on endurance game – which is where you hang in there and keep at it with a girl until she cracks on whatever the resistance point was, and things move forward.

This can work very effectively at any point in a seduction, but especially later on: once you know a girl is into you, you have a fair bit of compliance established, and no one’s likely to be taking her away from you.

Sometimes, however, ‘sticking around no matter what’ is not the best call for the situation you’re in. Other times, merely enduring is not going to be enough – you need to be totally on-point seizing every opportunity you have to escalate things with a girl and hook her deeper and deeper into the seduction, before other forces in the environment can yank her away.

Today, I want to explore this other side of things: how do you deal with lengthy, wildcard-laden seductions – and when does it make sense to pull the rip cord and step away from such a seduction, and NOT endure?

Anti-Logistics: Picking Up When You Have No Logistics

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how to succeed with no logisticsHow do you pull girls without logistics? With an advanced strategy dubbed ‘anti-logistics’: you get HER to solve the logistics HERSELF!

Hey guys and welcome back. I hope you are all doing okay.

Today, I will discuss an advanced topic. It isn’t hard to understand, but it may be hard to pull off. The subject is about pulling and logistics.

When you think about a guy pulling a girl, where is he likely to take her?

  • His place

  • Her place

  • Another location, like an after-party

Generally, you take her to your place, but if that does not work, try to go for her place, and if that does not work, you look for an alternative.

Taking her back to your place is usually the ideal choice because you control most logistics. You know where your place is, who lives there, and what to expect.

See How to Take Her Home and Extract Her Back to Your Place

But, this may not work. Some girls prefer going back to their place, and that’s fine. It may even be the most practical call if she lives alone and nearby.

You may not live alone or live far away. So, you cannot pull back to your place easily. Going to her place is generally the second-best option. This requires her to have good logistics (live not far away, have her own room, etc.). That’s why you should screen for her logistics. For details, see Going to Her Place: Tools to Get You More “Yes”es

Also, check out this post by Chase: How to Go to Her Place Smoothly, Even If You Just Met

And sometimes, no options work, and you need to be creative. Perhaps a friend is hosting an after-party? Maybe there is an option for public sex? Now, this gets trickier. Not only is public sex illegal in many places, but you have many logistical unknowns. (How are the logistics at the after-party?) You usually need to work harder as those pulls require more compliance.

We define the latter scenario can as the “no logistics” scenario—you have no clear plans about how you intend to shag her. Did you get an invite to a stranger’s after-party? You do not know the logistics there. You have some logistics if the after-party is at a friend’s place.

I wrote an article on this subject: How to Hook Up When You Have No Logistics. Today, I will build upon it by discussing how to succeed without logistics.

This post stems from an old saying from Captain Jack, an old school PUA, who claimed that if a girl really likes you, is aroused, and wants you, then logistics will create themselves, or she will try to resolve the situation, and everything will become easier.

But reaching that “point of no return” is easier said than done. It’s not simple and requires some luck. You need more than just having a girl like you or having her be horny. You need a higher compliance level beyond what is usually necessary to pull her back to your place or hers.

So, what can you do to increase your chances of making it work?

Sleeping with Girls Who Are 'Done with Casual Sex'

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girl is done with casual sexMany girls will tell you they are ‘done with causal sex’… then resist your escalation to sex. What does this mean – and HOW do you sleep with such girls?

12 Mindsets of Highly Skilled Seducers

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mindsets of highly skilled seducersSkilled seducers don’t just do things different from most men. They even THINK different. Think like a skilled seducer, and success with women comes easier.

I haven’t done a good ‘roundup’ article in a while.

Rather than write something totally different and original, I figured I’d do a refresher piece. As valuable as new concepts and perspectives are, it’s also worthwhile to review important past ground too.

Below, I’ve listed out 12 of the most important mindsets highly skilled seducers operate under. These mindsets differentiate the man highly skilled with women from ordinary men. They are a result of heaps of experience and success with girls – but they are also obtainable through a focus on obtaining these mindsets as you approach, date, and seduce women, too.

As you go through this list of seducer mentalities, take a look at how closely you hew to each – and for those you don’t, examine how you normally think instead.

Wingman Guide, Pt. 6: Switching Targets, Alpha Females, & Big Groups

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advanced wingman strategiesIn this advanced wingman strategy guide, you’ll learn how to switch targets with your wingman… how to handle alpha females & big groups… and more.

Hey guys and welcome back.

So far in my now 6-part guide to wingmen, I have covered wingmanning fundamentals. Those posts should be enough to get you and your wing results—lots of results.

You can look at the previous posts as your A-to-Z guide on wingmanning. To review, we’ve covered:

Today, we will step it up a notch and discuss how to deal with trickier wingman situations. This and next week’s posts are for more seasoned seducers and work as an “expansion pack” to my previous posts. The strategies covered below build upon what we’ve discussed, so check out my past five posts on wingmanning. Even if you are a seasoned wingman, you’ll likely find some tips in those posts that you may have missed to benefit your wingmanning game.

Charisma Breakdown: Ryan Reynolds

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Ryan Reynolds charisma breakdownRyan Reynolds wields a puckish, irrepressible charisma he uses to easily place himself at the top of any social pile. This Charisma Breakdown shows how.

I first saw Ryan Reynolds on primetime TV in the show Two Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place. I was 15 years old, and instantly, I found myself hooked: Reynolds’s effusive, puckish charisma and his amazing humor sucked me in. “This guy is AWESOME!” I said. A few years later he starred in National Lampoon’s Van Wilder; he was hilarious in it and his charisma was off the charts. For years since I’ve described my seduction style (and this site) as “smooth, stylish, and irreverent; think Sean Connery mixed with a dash of Van Wilder.”

In 2002 (when Van Wilder came out) I fully expected Reynolds to become a humongous star… only to be disappointed as he landed B-movie role after B-movie role for over a decade. People Magazine naming him the Sexiest Man Alive in 2010 did little to help his career.

Of course, today, Reynolds is a bankable leading man; his star rose to the heights it’s still at after the 2016 hit movie Deadpool (based on a character described in the comics as “Ryan Renolds [sic] crossed with a Shar-Pei”… in 2004, five years before Reynolds ever played the character – the role was really just a match made in Heaven. Or in a comic book office by some writer as enamored with Reynolds’s charisma as I was. Take your pick). I feel vindicated Reynolds finally achieved the clout he clearly deserves – but almost like that was a given, given his rare and potent charisma, know what I mean?

Anyway, today, as part of our ongoing discussion of charisma – which is itself part of our ongoing New Year’s promotion of my course “Charisma In A Bottle”, which is pretty much the best training program you are going to find on charisma anywhere on the Earth (and you can pick it up at a discount + with a limited edition manual through this Saturday) – let’s break down what makes Ryan Reynolds’s charisma so good.

Is Marriage Worth Doing Anymore If You're a Man?

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TEXTModern marriage seems to offer many pitfalls for men. Yet many men still marry anyway. So is marriage worth doing for men today – or not?

There’s an ongoing debate on our forum about whether marriage is worth it if you’re a man.

Marriage as an institution has undergone some extremely significant changes in the Western world over the past century. Indeed, it’s been changing for the past three centuries, but in particular over the past 70 years – since the first no-fault divorce law passed in Oklahoma in 1953 – there’s been a complete transformation in what marriage is, what it stands for – and even who marries and why.

In fact, marriage ALWAYS changes… and most of the ‘new’ changes to marriages have happened many times in history before – if not in recent history.

The changes marriage has undergone are argued to have improved it for many parties.

There’s one party marriage has not improved for, however: heterosexual men.

So, today, we’ll take a close look at what the changes to marriage have meant for men… and whether, as a man, marriage is something worth doing anymore.

Tactics Tuesdays: Using Sexual Magnetism with Girls

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using sexual magnetism with girlsSome men just ooze powerful sexual magnetism. But what is sexual magnetism? How did they get it? The secret is 3 key aspects – but you’ve got to be a bit of a “seduction pro” first.

This article presupposes you already have solid fundamentals and game. Basically, you are intermediate at least – and probably closer to advanced (or actually advanced). If you’re not there yet, feel free to read it still, but don’t worry if you can’t pull this one off yet – you can come back to it later once your game and attractive qualities are more on-lock.

A forum member named Jeff recently asked about how to convey sexual state to girls the way his highly skilled natural friend does. In other words, how to use sexual magnetism.

About this friend, Jeff says:

I have a friend who's been hitting the field for over 10 years.

Dude's a pro - having racked up easily over 500 lays, and between 100-150 in 2019.

Recently, he told me he moved to a new house (in Delhi, India where he's living) and there's a girl on the first floor (while he's on the fourth).

He ran into her while moving some stuff and all he did was have a 2 minute back and forth with the girl without doing anything fancy, and she was ON him - suggesting they should catch up, party, get a drink, etc.

...all the while being married, with her husband downstairs in the house they're sharing.

I was curious as to what he did to elicit such desire.

By that, I mean -

- Girls text him as opposed to him having to do all the work (of course he texts them, but he barely has to do anything)
- Falling all over him in the club within a few minutes of meeting
- Girls throwing attraction signals at him (like the time he was dancing at a dance workshop and everyone wanted to know who he was)

I, on the other hand, still have work way too hard, probably relying on my verbals a lot more than he does.

Sexual magnetism is an interesting topic. It’s a subset of charisma (which I’ve devoted an entire course to, as well as a series of charismatic breakdowns on Hollywood figures, and a set of beginner’s and pro’s guides to charisma that many guys found helpful)… but rather than focus on general charisma, it zeroes in on the sexual variety.

I gave a quick response on the forum thread, but I want to expand upon that a bit here in an article on what sexual magnetism is and how you can convey it.

Using Sex Talk in Seduction's Late Game

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sex talk late gameThe ideal time for sex talk is mid-seduction. But some girls resist sex talk – or things may move faster with them than you expect. How do you use it late?

Hi, I hope you are all doing well. Last week, we discussed how to use sex talk during mid-game, when sex talk is most suitable. You have enough rapport and attraction to transition into sex talk easily, and you will not have been in an interaction so long as to set and reinforce a strong sexual frame. As we discussed last week, not escalating the vibe and waiting too long before setting a sexual frame will result in an asexual frame, and if that frame persists, you will reinforce that frame. This makes future escalation attempts difficult and prone to resistance.

You can also set a sexual frame through sex talk during early game and before the hook, but that poses some challenges. It can cause resistance because you are a stranger. We discussed the benefits and how to use sex talk in early game a couple of weeks ago, so make sure you check that post for more details.

The ideal time for sex talk is in mid-game. This phase hits the perfect balance between not too early and not too late. We covered why that works last week. If you are at an intermediate level or new to sex talk and want to use a cookie-cutter method (in my opinion, it’s the easiest and safest way to use sex talk), read last week’s post.

Today, we will discuss how to use sex talk during late game. I will discuss the pros and cons, cover when to start it, and provide some pointers on how to use sex talk effectively and hurdles to watch for.