(3) Journeyman

What makes an after-hours venue good to pick up women is not just that it’s open after hours. Some after-hour clubs are awful. Yet some can be gold mines.

Hi all. I hope you are all doing great.

Today I want to discuss a topic that hasn’t been discussed yet on the site—how to pick up in after-hour venues.

The truth is, picking up girls in these venues is not the same as picking up girls in “normal hours” venues. You should consider many factors and calibrate depending on the venue type.

After-hour venues are unique with their own vibe, rules, and universe, whereas regular clubs are open during hours when people usually party. But after-hours venues are open when people typically leave for home or start heading to work around 8 am. I know of a place that closes at around 11 am! When you exit the club at closing time, it is daytime, and you may see families out and about, and you are dressed flashy and all looking like a mess. Good times.

And yes, it is possible to pull even at that hour! I will get into why shortly. I have taken girls home at 10 or 11 am! I cannot guarantee they will always be the best regarding looks or personality. At that later hour, these women are usually “damaged goods.” Be warned.

We have a lot to discuss. First, let’s look at social dynamics to understand each venue type. Next week, we break down a potential game plan.

People must feel secure in their relationships to stay in them. As relationship trust crumbles, security erodes, and people take steps to guard themselves.

In my four-part relationship model, GISS, the first ‘S’ stands for ‘security.’ Security, as I use it for relationships, means a few things:

• Trust that you are who you seem to be.

• Trust that you can be relied upon for what’s required.

• Trust that no outside forces or events can upend the relationship.

The reason I don’t simply call it ‘trust’ is because all these kinds of trust together create a feeling that the relationship is secure. Yet in the absence of this trust, or as the trust erodes, a sense of insecurity prevails.

How secure should you aim to make your relationships? Many men strive to give their women a sense of total security – greater security, in truth, than they can realistically deliver.

It’s a chaotic world out there, full of uncertainty and unknowns. Just as your woman seeks security in her relationship with you, you bear the responsibility of deciding how strong a sense of security you will give her… and whether you can live up to the impression you allow her to have.

Found yourself in a venue where the male-female ratio is no good? Too many hot dogs, not enough buns? Here’s how to pick up girls there anyway.

Hey guys. Welcome back.

Last week I discussed the men-to-women ratio when you are out, how it affects the social dynamics, and the difficulty level you will face, thus, your results.

Dealing with an unfavorable male-to-female ratio (more men than women), whether at a party, club, or social gathering, will always make pickup and seduction MUCH harder for you. It is unbelievable how much effect this has, and odd why it is talked about so little. I know Chase has discussed it from a different, broader perspective before.

A bad ratio can redefine your night and make it more challenging because:

• You face more male competition (women will raise their standards).

• All men are valued less (a high supply with a low demand will lower the value of ALL the demand).

• Women have a stronger frame because they are in a position of power. This means more testing, jealousy plots, and other annoying hoops to get through.

• Women will turn into attention-seekers because men lose their value.

• If you manage to hook, you have more men constantly bothering you.

Yes, a bad ratio is a significant factor.

Last week we discussed how too many girls can be problematic because of the pendulum effect: girls will eventually get bored and leave, turning the tides in your disfavor.

The IDEAL ratio is when the ratio is balanced, preferably with a bit more girls, 55/45 or even 60/40. Beyond that, the pendulum will swing in the wrong direction. For more info on this, check out my previous post.

So today, I will discuss how to deal with a bad ratio. We will cover how you should approach bad ratio nights and how to do damage control, but first, we need to discuss preventive measures.

In contrast to what many will tell you, successful men often struggle with women… while prolific Casanovas lead messy, unsuccessful lives. Why is this so?

If you’ve spent any time in the manosphere, you’d be forgiven for thinking success in all the ways a Disney Prince must succeed at will bring you all the women you could ever want.

Just become financially successful, respected by your peers, and a man of upstanding quality, and your princess shall appear! The Disney castle will rise before you; songbirds will twitter beautiful melodies; and you will Live Happily Ever After.

But is this correct?

Is male success the key to limitless bounty with the fairer sex?

My experience and that of thousands of men I have talked to, myriad public figures, scientific papers, and the histories of dozens of cultures all seems to point to the same one answer:

“Not really, no.”

The far more troubling question – and the one we’ll examine today – is this:

Is too much success as a man actually counterproductive to romantic and sexual success?

A high-value man is not just a man who POSSESSES value – he is a man who GIVES value. Here’s how to become one, with a real life case study example.

Hey guys and welcome back.

Today, I want to discuss a factor in social circles and night game. It’s a concept we’ve discussed before: giving value makes you high value. In other words, to become a high value man, you need to give, not take.

Givers are valued. It’s what makes them high value. It is as simple as that.

I will delve into details and provide some theoretical background for this concept. We’ll look at examples of how giving value got me at the top of Parisian nightlife. I will share some examples of how other high value men use these tricks, and hopefully, you will see how YOU can use this concept in field.

This concept has rarely been discussed practically in the past. Instead of discussing high value as a mindset or philosophy, we will talk about how it can be useful when you are out. And that is fine; it indeed is both. More importantly, high value is a social concept and a technique! And it is the latter I’ll emphasize in this post.

VAC and SAC are both powerful attraction models. Once you’re familiar with both, however, can you mix and match them for attracting girls – and if so, how?

A little while ago Alek Rolstad asked me to write on combining the VAC and SAC attraction models.

This article won’t be as useful to you if you’re not already familiar with both. However, I will give you summaries of each as refreshers, or if you’re new to them and want to try to follow along.

VAC and SAC are each powerful “attraction models” used to understand where in a courtship or seduction you stand with a woman, and what you must focus on with her next/most. Either model can be used with any method or system of seduction; because each is a model used for understanding and building attraction, they “bolt onto” whatever your seductive approach may be:

• Do you have a series of routines and gambits you use with the women you approach? Use an attraction model to gauge which gambit is going to work best to move things forward with her next. Or use it to diagnose why something that seems like it should work might not be working.

• Are you a free-flowing natural-game type whose routines are more habits than specific spiels? Use an attraction model to determine which way the “flow” of your seduction should go, or put a finger on why you’re encountering resistance (plus what to do to overcome it).

Attraction models essentially serve as guides and troubleshooters to allow you to create smoother seductions and resolve issues that appear within your seductions.

But if you’re familiar with both VAC and SAC, can you “bolt on” both? Should you just choose one? Do they conflict? How do these different attraction models intersect?

Want to know how to pick up a girl in an elevator? You’ve got to be fast… and you’ve got to be GOOD. That ride doesn’t last long. Make it count!

Do we really need an article on how to pick up girls in elevators?

Oh, you’d be surprised!