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Some guys are complete “fat girl magnets.” If you’re always attracting fat girls though, how do you stop? The solution is part mentality and part behavior.

Are you someone who always has fat girls throwing themselves at him?

It’s a pretty dangerous position to be in, honestly. All it takes is one fat chick throwing herself at you the wrong way for you to end up CRUSHED.

Jokes aside, attracting fat girls is something that happens to some guys, but not ALL guys.

We just had a conversation about it over on the forum. Among comments from some of our members:

fat chicks react very strongly and aggressively asking for number's, staring etc. Does it mean I have low sexual value? [A]m i [a] weirdo?

Same thing happens with me ..

I am an expert in this subject. … Update from last night: another potential pitfall is a broken bed frame.

Obviously, if you love those rolls of fat, you’ll have no need or desire to stop attracting fat girls.

But if it’s a problem for you, let me tell you right now: it’s totally doable to stop the big girls wanting you.

So, while we usually discuss creating attraction on this site, today let’s take a detour – and talk about breaking it.

This simple conversation gambit gets you turning women on via an unusual conversational route: self-control. Because self-control is sexy… as she’ll agree!

Hi guys. I hope you are all doing great.

I want to share a sex talk gambit that is very efficient and easy to pull off. What can this gambit do for you?

• Convey sexual experience (sexual prizing)

• Communicate sexual, social, and female understanding (pacing effect)

• Build sexual comfort

It does all this while setting a sexual frame, which we know is crucial. When the interaction is sexual, whether the sexual frame is explicit or light, future sexualization is smoother because the interaction already has a sexual undertone. So, talking about sex as you move forward will be easier, forging a path for bolder and more explicit gambits.

This self-control sex gambit is light and does not contain much explicit content, but feel free to create a more explicit version if you want. Because this gambit is less explicit, it’s less prone to resistance, less risky, and easier to introduce.

However, a light gambit does NOT mean it is weak. It is powerful even if the level of explicit content is low because it still sets a sexual frame and conveys attractive attributes. And this can get a girl interested and attracted.

Sometimes, light gambits are all you need to hook her, get her immersed and curious about you, and even be willing to go home with you. Sure, it rarely is enough to escalate all the way, but it can set a clear path for easy physical escalation.

Light sexual gambit are helpful in your early game as a hook gambit; see Using Sex Talk to Hook Girls Early in a Conversation.

So, let’s get into the gaming, but first, I’ll share some background so you understand the theory behind this gambit.

Remember, you can find a compilation of all my gambits here: STICKIED: Sex Talk Gambits Compilation (And more).

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Hi guys. I hope you are all doing well.

Last week, I discussed how to (and if you should) introduce sex talk early in the interaction. Sex talk can increase compliance, set a sexual frame (crucial), and escalate the vibe. It can be challenging to introduce sex talk early, even if you talk about sex in a way that does not convey sexual intent and sexual interest. You don’t want to trigger potential resistance, so it makes sense to assume that talking about sexual subjects with strangers may be socially unacceptable (unless you calibrate properly; see last week’s post). Early sex talk is also prone to resistance, especially if done not long after the opener and during the hook phase before the hook point. I’ve written many articles about sex talk; see Sleazy Sex Talk vs. Sexy Sex Talk: What’s the Difference? for more.

For these reasons, I recommend introducing sex talk after reaching the hook point—after you have an interaction going smoothly with a girl, preferably in isolation. You can use sex talk in groups but will have to select lighter sex talk gambits as you don’t want resistance from any of the girls, as resistance from one may risk you the entire group. Even if your girl likes what you are saying, if her friends dislike you or your topic and can use whatever you talk about as a pretext to get rid of you, you are in trouble.

So, sex talk is ideally most helpful during mid-game, after isolation. It is the easiest and most efficient time to bring it up, especially if you are new to it. Even if you are not, it is still the safest and easiest phase to do it.

This post answers that question: What is the best way to use sex talk during mid-game?

Not every girl’s eager to commit. Some seem like they NEVER will! Follow these 5 steps however & make almost any girl want a serious relationship… in time.

A year ago, a member of our forum shared a particularly tough case about a girl he wanted a more serious relationship with. This gal was a wild mare – sexy, exciting, full of life, and wanted her freedom more than anything in the world.

Our forum member wanted to make this woman want a serious relationship with him. Yet everything he did to try and rope her in merely pushed her further away. She reacted the exact opposite way he hoped – when he’d move closer, she’d pull back; when he’d talk about the future, she’d shut that down.

I have made something of a specialty of seducing vivacious women other men struggle to tame. The girls I date seriously all have spurned marriage proposals from in-love beaus in their pasts. Some of the girlfriends I’ve had weren’t sure (at least before they met me) that they ever wanted marriage. They all end up doing their best to finagle me into long-term commitment, and they all ended up angling for a wedding, a house, and a family, too.

Obviously, if all you want is casual relationships, no-strings sex, and FWBs, this guide holds no relevance to you. You can safely skip this and move onto other pieces. We have plenty more guides on the site on those other topics (here’s my guide to one-night stands. And my two-parter on FWBs: the 4 phases of FWB and the 8 FWB rules).

However, if you want to know how to make a girl want a serious relationship with you, read on, and allow me open up my box of seducer’s tricks.

Sex talk can be used to hook girls in the early game. Its viability depends on a few factors – yet when viable you can use it to suck women right in.

Hi guys and welcome back.

Today, I’ll discuss sex talk calibration and how to use sex talk in the early game after the opener and during the hook phase.

First, I emphasize that sex talk has always been a mid-game technique to increase compliance, set sexual frames, and escalate the vibe. So, using sex talk as part of your hook gambit is a bit “off-label” (the pharmaceutical term for medicines used for something other than their usual purpose).

But sex talk can be useful as a hook gambit to immerse girls. For instance, after the opener, whether the opener is an embedded hook in the opener or a hook gambit. The goal is to get a positive reaction from your opener, and if not, you can use a hook gambit. It generates initial compliance, creates more interest, and gets the conversation going. We use hook gambits and other techniques such as assumptions/cold reads, group gambits, and storytelling to accomplish this.

This post covers techniques best suited for night game. In day game, sex talk is mainly used from the mid-game on, typically after isolating to an instant date, or at least, after a solid interaction.

Groups of two girls are common in nightlife. It can be hard to peel a girl off her one friend, though. Here’s how to escalate in front of her instead.

Hey guys and welcome back.

My most recent articles discussed two paradoxes. The first is to give both girls in a 2-set attention to maintain the hook. By doing so, you will face issues, such as running out of things to say, inflating your material, appearing like a dancing monkey, and creating jealousy and confusion because you are giving both girls attention. I provided solutions last week that deal with these issues.

The second paradox is that you will not have the ideal setting to escalate the vibe when you deal with a 2-set. But because you must escalate the vibe at some point (stagnation = the death of the interaction), you find yourself in a dilemma: do you escalate in a setting where you cannot escalate the vibe very well—or do you wait and risk stagnation?

And that’s the question we will resolve in this article. I will explain how to escalate the vibe sexually and intimately in 2-sets. Yes, it is more challenging than running 3-sets (or larger) as you can isolate and escalate more easily from bigger groups.

Finally, we will discuss how to seal the deal when dealing with groups of two.

Talented seducers have a kind of ‘killer instinct’: they seem to know what to do and when to get the girl. How did they develop this – and how can YOU?

On the forum, a member shared a report of a girl he pulled to his place, only for him to forget to sexualize things with her once back. Instead, he held an engaging, yet platonic, conversation with her. After some time passed, she departed on friendly terms – nothing intimate having taken place.

A second member in another report discussed a pair of dates he’d had with a girl. This girl had signaled strong sexual interest in him from the first date… but he had yet to make a move. He planned to have her at his house for a third date. He hoped to finally get up the gumption to make his move then.

All across seduction forums you can find stories like these. You can find them other places, too. A few months back I shared some tales from women talking about guys who’d moved too slow and how disappointed these women were. Most guys who eventually become skilled seducers are guilty of moving too slow and missing escalation windows plenty in their younger years, too. I certainly was. My early years were littered with lost lays, purely because I lacked the ‘killer instinct’ to make the move.

You should not be discouraged though.

The development of this instinct takes time.

Once you have it, it will begin to feel strange you ever once lacked it.