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Journeyman have been at it a while and have begun to develop major good habits and success streaks as practitioners of the social arts

How Does 'Time to Bed' Affect Female Devotion?

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time to bed and women's devotionIf you bed a girl fast, will she be more devoted to you down the road? Or… should you give her a lengthier seduction with a juicy emotional buildup?

Commenting on my article “How to Let a Girl Go”, reader Walter said

These women are just settling for you if you keep being persistent. Have you ever seen those guys posting pics with their new girlfriends or even future wives on social media capturing it like "After 5 years of investing and being persistent she finally said YES"? Little do they know those women will never be into them even when married.

Responding to my response to Walter, in which I commented that Walter’s perspective is not necessarily going to be true, Hak said

Feel like this is great topic for article. I also feel that if you stay persistent to success for a LTR there could be lingering resentment from the other person that you were not their preferred choice. We ideally want to be someone’s preferred choice. Or is that too idealistic for LTR purposes?

I understand your point that if the relationship is good then all those previous thoughts and dynamics get wiped out and start anew.

The first thing to say about how the length of time or amount of persistence it takes you to bed a girl affects things down the line is that it’s never quite as simple as you’d think it might be. Maybe you think because you persisted for her so long, she’ll view it as an amazing event that the two of you ended up together… or you might think that because the two of you got together so fast she’ll feel like it must have been fate.

But the whole truth is that time to bed is just one of the factors that determines how women feel about you long-term, the esteem they hold you in, and how ‘fated’ they think the relationship was… or was not.

Wingman Guide, Pt. 5: Calibrating to Your Wing

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wingman calibrationTo get the most out of picking up girls with a wingman, the wings need to calibrate to each other. That means working together – and balancing each other’s game.

Hey guys and welcome back.

Today, I want to discuss calibration and additional strategies you can pull off with a wing. This post is an expansion to help perfect your wingmanning skills. We will discuss everything from in-set calibration pointers to state control, and decision-making with your wing.

Up to this point in our guide to wingmanning, we’ve covered a lot of information that may seem exhaustive. Remember, a perfect pickup and seduction does not exist. You will rarely use all the material you know and pull it off perfectly. It’s good to know that often you won’t need it.

The goal is to strive for perfection by giving you as many tools in these posts as possible to get the best results, and you can add or subtract tips and techniques depending on how you and your wing work together. Some methods may suit you; some may not. You may need some strategies to solve potential sticking points, and you should focus on applying these depending on your situation.

So, let’s go through some valuable tips and tricks.

Wingman Guide, Pt. 4: Closing Girls w/ a Wing (Doubles)

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closing with a wingmanIt’s time to pull the girls you picked up with a wingman. Follow these battle-tested action plans to get girls out of the venue and alone & back home.

Hey guys and welcome back.

Previously, we have discussed wingmanning rules and strategies suitable for going solo and doing doubles, like split-pushes. This strategy is challenging and may not be ideal for beginners. We’ve also talked about the basics of wingmanning, from opening and hooking with a wingman, plus introducing your wing into the set, to running the set together.

If all goes well and the set is ready to pull, you must know how to manage this successfully. Sometimes, you and your wing may split up with each girl, going your separate ways. When this happens, it becomes a split-push, similar to solo game, which we won’t discuss today.

But often, when you have a set with your wing, you’ll want to take advantage of the double situation. Likely, the girls want to stick together, at least for a while, and you will most usually pull together.

How do you best seal the deal in these double situations? That’s what we will discuss below. You’ll learn how to handle those times when you and your wing are together with your girls until you are all at an afterparty. Sure, you may split up before then, and that’s completely fine. We will assume this does not happen so I can break down everything from meeting (see my last post) until she is in your bed (today’s post).
So, let’s assume:

  • You’ve opened the girls.

  • You and your wing have hooked both girls.

  • You both have an interaction going, and all is going well.

Wingman Guide, Pt. 3: Opening & Hooking Girls w/ a Wing

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opening with a wingmanOpening girls with a wingman (and hooking them) is an art. With this guide, you’ll have the most effective ways to get them roped in and talking.

Hey guys. Welcome back.

Previously, we discussed easy-to-pull-off wingman strategies: “split-push,” when you and your wing split and do your thing, not requiring wingmanning techniques like calibration and synergy with your wing. Doing “doubles” when you and your wing actively seek to meet women together, run the same set, and go for one girl from the same group is much harder to pull off than the split-push strategy. We also went over hybrid approaches that use split-push as a starting point, with the possibility of doing doubles later.

In some situations, you need to do a double:

  • Two-sets (hard to deal with solo, especially with isolation)

  • Sets when both you and your wing get a hook

  • Sets where you need assistance (only if your wing is skilled)

Some guys, like me, love doing doubles with a great wing. You get a special ego boost when you and a wing pull your own girl together. The vibe, the talks, and the laughs the next day are priceless. You must experience it to know it.

Today, I will go through basic techniques to use when doing doubles, whether you end up in a hybrid style by chance or actively go for it with your wing. These techniques can increase your chance of succeeding. Note that today’s post serves as a basic guide. I will get into more advanced strategies in a few weeks for more seasoned seducers (or curious beginners).

Wingman Guide, Pt. 2: 3 Potent Wingman Strategies

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wingman strategiesGoing out with a wingman is good. What strategy should you employ while out though? There’s a lot more you can do than just “two guys approaching girls.”

Hey guys, welcome back. Last week, we discussed wingmanning and the basics of choosing a good wingman, which is critical. It can make or break your future interactions. We reviewed key rules to ensure smooth cooperation, which is equally critical whether you are a beginner or a pro; many underestimate this element.

Today, I’ll discuss strategies and give my take on wingmanning. I will start by debunking some misconceptions about winging by pointing out the flawed perspective that wingmanning is about you and a guy hitting on two women in the same group. Wingmanning can be this, but it is so much more. The classic view of wingmanning is the most complicated method to pull off and requires good overall pick up and seduction skills. I may sound slightly negative initially, especially if you are not at the level to pull off the “classic” wingmanning style. However, I will suggest different strategies that are easier to use but not necessarily less efficient, whether you are a pro or a beginner. These are especially convenient if you are a beginner or an intermediate player.

However, if the old school, hardcore style of wingmanning (“doubles”) is your thing, then similar to my previous post, this post is also for you since you will find helpful (and essential) information here. Worry not, I will soon have posts on doing doubles because I love it and have perfected it with my main wings.

The Ideal Male/Female Ratio for Your Going Out Group

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male-female ratio in going-out groupsWhen you go out to nightlife (especially if to pick up girls), you want a good male/female ratio in your group. And the truth is, there IS an ideal ratio!

Hey guys and welcome back.

Today, I will conclude my series on selecting your peers and who to allow in your group when attending social gatherings.

How many people should you head out with? In my first post, we concluded that you should:

  1. Go out solo

  1. Go out with larger groups

Groups of two and three are not ideal, though groups of three are usually okay, and groups of two are good IF and ONLY IF that person is your trusted wing. Going out with a girl (as a pair) is not a good idea. I’ve explained why in previous posts.

Last week, I shared factors to consider when selecting who to go out with. My criteria are:

  • People who know a lot of people
  • Socially savvy people
  • People with an edge
  • People with money
  • People with a good reputation
  • People who look good
  • People who dress well

How to Pick Who to Go Out with to Nightlife

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how to pick who to take to clubsWho you take with you to nightlife can make or break your night. Choose wrong and you can be barred from venues or see your evening ruined. So pick well!

Hey guys and welcome back. Today, I’ll resume last week’s discussion, which covered how many people you should go out with during night game, or when at social events with the intent of getting laid.

We are not discussing outings with close friends to maintain bonds or for any purposes other than taking a girl home.

For review, here are the four takeaways from last week’s article:

  1. Solo is the go-to for top-tier seducers. These guys like the freedom and independence from going solo. Most other men are not at their level and will drag the experienced seducer down. Those who are good with women, without being trained in the art, are mostly unfamiliar with key concepts such as logistics and calibration.

  1. I do not recommend going out with two guys as the typical wingman combo UNLESS the wing is trained and can go solo when necessary, like when you become isolated with a girl.

  1. Groups of three are not ideal.

  1. Larger groups over three can be helpful because this creates a private party within the venue to which you are invited. Your group will attract positive attention, allowing you to meet other women through warm approaches. The group’s good vibe may positively increase your state. Also, you avoid situations where you are alone and don’t appear as a loner.

So, the best choices are:

  1. Going solo
  2. Going out with big groups

Going out solo will not be detailed here, as we went through this last week. But who you go out with to clubs is just as important as how many people you go out with. That is what we'll discuss today.

First, a few words about going out with a wingman. The ideal wingman should:

  1. Be at your level or better.
  2. Match your style.
  3. Have predictable behavior.

I’ll share a detailed list in my upcoming series on Wingmanning. So, with a bit of patience, you will be rewarded.

How to Know If a Girl Likes Oral or Anal Sex: The Pleasure of Sex Gambit

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how to know if a girl likes oral or anal sexSome girls like oral and anal sex. Some girls don’t. How do you know if a girl likes such encounters? Use the “Pleasure of Sex” gambit and she’ll tell you!

Hey guys. Welcome back.

Today, I’ll share an explicit sexual gambit to arouse your girl and escalate the vibe. What’s more, it can help screen for specific sexual practices, like oral and anal sex.

PS: this gambit is advanced and requires good conversational skills, calibration, and experience with sex talk. You should know how to tackle potential resistance and have good frame control and delivery to ensure success.

I have not shared an explicit gambit for a while, as I favor lighter, less explicit gambits that are not as prone to trigger resistance. This lets me play it safe and introduce the gambit early, usually in night game, allowing me to set an early sexual frame, which has several benefits.

Lighter gambits are still powerful, though. They get the job done and set a sexual frame. They may not arouse her like explicit gambits do. Still, sometimes it’s not necessary if you set a clear sexual frame, set sex-positive frames, and avoid resistance through anti-slut defense busting gambits, such as communicating you are low key, How to Have Discreet Sex (and Communicate Discretion) and that you are nonjudgmental. Then, physical escalation is often enough to seal the deal.

Typically, explicit sex talk is beneficial and risk-free to pull off in late game when you can escalate. There are some exceptions; see When to Switch to BOLD Sex Talk When Talking to Girls.

Some guys, myself included, prefer verbal escalation to sexual. In these cases, bold gambits have their place too.

With that out of the way, let me show you a gambit that serves a different purpose—for screening.

How to Stop Attracting Fat Girls

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stop attracting fat girlsSome guys are complete “fat girl magnets.” If you’re always attracting fat girls though, how do you stop? The solution is part mentality and part behavior.

Are you someone who always has fat girls throwing themselves at him?

It’s a pretty dangerous position to be in, honestly. All it takes is one fat chick throwing herself at you the wrong way for you to end up CRUSHED.

Jokes aside, attracting fat girls is something that happens to some guys, but not ALL guys.

We just had a conversation about it over on the forum. Among comments from some of our members:

fat chicks react very strongly and aggressively asking for number's, staring etc. Does it mean I have low sexual value? [A]m i [a] weirdo?

Same thing happens with me ..

I am an expert in this subject. … Update from last night: another potential pitfall is a broken bed frame.

Obviously, if you love those rolls of fat, you’ll have no need or desire to stop attracting fat girls.

But if it’s a problem for you, let me tell you right now: it’s totally doable to stop the big girls wanting you.

So, while we usually discuss creating attraction on this site, today let’s take a detour – and talk about breaking it.

"Self-Control Is Sexy": A Sex Talk Gambit (Turn Her On!)

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sex talk gambit: self-controlThis simple conversation gambit gets you turning women on via an unusual conversational route: self-control. Because self-control is sexy… as she’ll agree!

Hi guys. I hope you are all doing great.

I want to share a sex talk gambit that is very efficient and easy to pull off. What can this gambit do for you?

  • Communicate sexual, social, and female understanding (pacing effect)

  • Build sexual comfort

It does all this while setting a sexual frame, which we know is crucial. When the interaction is sexual, whether the sexual frame is explicit or light, future sexualization is smoother because the interaction already has a sexual undertone. So, talking about sex as you move forward will be easier, forging a path for bolder and more explicit gambits.

This self-control sex gambit is light and does not contain much explicit content, but feel free to create a more explicit version if you want. Because this gambit is less explicit, it’s less prone to resistance, less risky, and easier to introduce.

However, a light gambit does NOT mean it is weak. It is powerful even if the level of explicit content is low because it still sets a sexual frame and conveys attractive attributes. And this can get a girl interested and attracted.

Sometimes, light gambits are all you need to hook her, get her immersed and curious about you, and even be willing to go home with you. Sure, it rarely is enough to escalate all the way, but it can set a clear path for easy physical escalation.

Light sexual gambit are helpful in your early game as a hook gambit; see Using Sex Talk to Hook Girls Early in a Conversation.

So, let’s get into the gaming, but first, I’ll share some background so you understand the theory behind this gambit.

Remember, you can find a compilation of all my gambits here: STICKIED: Sex Talk Gambits Compilation (And more).