The Abundance Trap: Why More Hot Women Can Mean Less Sex

As you level up to sleeping with younger and hotter women, getting sex should (in theory) become easier and easier.
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As you level up to sleeping with younger and hotter women, getting sex should (in theory) become easier and easier.
Hey guys. Welcome back.
I have been sharing some gambits about the concept of listing. It is a powerful tool for setting and controlling the frame of a conversation. When talking to a woman, you can use listing by providing several reasons for a particular point, which can help her accept the frame. This technique is straightforward. Advertisements frequently employ listing techniques both online and in television commercials.
The examples I provided in my two latest posts demonstrate how listing works in the field, and I hope the examples in this post will do the same.
Even though listing is intuitive, the hard part is to pull it off correctly, ensuring that each dimension you list seems persuasive and desirable to her.
It’s not really about convincing and being correct, as in political debate. It is about making the girl think, “Damn, he gets it; I like this.” If you use a defensive tone and get into an argumentative state, you have lost the seduction, and the conversation will turn into a debate. If you ever get there, pace and lead her elsewhere and change the subject by fractionating out.
Today, we will go through a gambit using the same template. It has a similar theme to last week, but instead of focusing on sexual comfort, we will focus on arousal and sexual prizing by conveying that you are a good lover with great skills, experience, and knowledge.
Hey guys. Welcome back. I hope you are all doing well.
Today, I want to share a comfort gambit that utilizes listing, a technique we discussed over the past two weeks (see the rest of my series on using listing during sex talk). We talked about how to use listing as a tool for frame control and addressing potential tests you may receive from women when discussing sex. Last week, I provided examples of how to use this technique to build comfort.
I will continue with what we did last week. I will use listing as the main concept to set the frames of trust and comfort throughout the gambit.
This gambit is called the diachronic sex gambit. Do not be intimidated by the word diachronic. It simply means “through time,” and knowledge of the word is not necessary for using it.
It is an easy gambit to understand and use.
I have many versions, but today, we will focus on one that focuses on building sexual trust and comfort.
Before delving into the gambit, I’d like to expand on the analysis from last week regarding the importance of sexual trust and comfort.
I try to create hybrid gambit posts by covering theory while sharing techniques. This provides a “two in one package” so that you have both theory and tools. However, sex talk is the verbalization of a theory about male-to-female interactions, sexology, and sexual sociology. Thus, my theoretical analysis is not unwarranted. It is essential to understand what goes on behind the technique.
Hey guys. Welcome back.
Last week, we discussed the importance of using fractionation with sex talk. For an explanation of how fractionation works, see Fractionation Simply Explained.
Fractionation is a simple yet powerful technique for alternating between a topic, vibe, or frame. In this instance, it involves bringing up sexual topics, then switching to a different subject for a while, before returning to the conversation about sex.
Why should you use fractionation?
It keeps the interaction fresh.
It avoids overinflating the subject, which can decrease its value.
It leaves the girl wanting more, which makes her more invested in you and the interaction.
It creates comfort, which is especially useful if you sense resistance coming. This helps you bypass potential roadblocks.
It helps you maintain the social frame so that the interaction seems smooth.
But exactly how should you fractionate? When? And into what?
First, a disclaimer. Today, I will provide detailed calibration information. Keep in mind that I am doing this because some readers are already good with sex talk. Do not feel intimidated or fall for the trap that you will not do well unless you are perfectly calibrated. You will usually be fine if you at least fractionate occasionally. The details below encompass things I do not always think about when in-field myself. But this is Girls Chase, so the more information we can provide to assist, the better. But do not get caught up with every calibration detail.
Over on X, Girls Chase reader and X follower Silvius Panther asks the following:
A habit-in-training of mine is to try to suss out any of my interlocutors' objections ASAP.
Have you any tips for such? Be it in seduction or in life in general.
I've long noticed that socially smooth people are often quite good at it.
Thank you!
— Silvius Panther (@PantherSilvius) May 3, 2025
I responded to him that
You should be testing/probing for everything you want to do, usually indirectly, during the conversation with her.
She’ll show resistance around areas she’s not comfortable with. Your job is to figure out why and attempt to address that before it’s late in the game and you get hit with all the unaddressed objections at once.
In keeping with this theme, today I’d like to give you tools for how you can easily probe for each of the five (5) most common objections you’ll encounter as last minute resistance from women in the bedroom.
That way, you’ll know what you’re up against before the pivotal moment – and can even defuse this resistance before it occurs.
Hey guys, welcome back.
I have noticed that more men, particularly those at an intermediate level on the forums, have been discussing fractionation. I decided to write some basic posts to assist with calibrating and using it correctly.
Today, I’ll cover the essentials and discuss how to use fractionation in sex talk. I have already mentioned the role of fractionation in pickup in previous articles, and I believe it is a key technique to master.
To fractionate during sex talk, you switch from sex talk to another topic, then rinse and repeat. This allows you to change up and fractionate your interaction. For example, on a dance floor, you may dance sexually and then switch to a more social style of dancing, before fractionating back to dancing sexually. The same goes for when you opt for a push-pull strategy of mixed signals—you show interest for a bit, before switching to non-interest, and back again.
Fractionation is a broad concept that includes various techniques. Generally, it involves switching between different states, vibes, or frames. I go into more depth in this post:
Our Skilled Seducer of the Month Award this month goes to Devilicious, a player who’s been with us since the very beginning of his seduction journey. He joined our community at 15 before he’d ever been with a girl or made a cold approach.
Back then Devilicious was dealing with fears and insecurities and considered himself a pushover. Today, he’s a globetrotter with 60 lays under his belt, most of them from cold approach, including a number of incredible pickups with beautiful girls in cities from Madrid to Paris to Sao Paulo to New York City.
It’s been incredible watching him grow, and it’s a delight to be able to introduce him to you today.
Recently, seasoned forum member of ours (and our upcoming Skilled Seducer of the Month) Devilicious suffered a painful breakup with an “absolute 10” for him he’d been seeing.
At one point, as she slept naked face down on their bed, Dev decided to “snap a few pictures of her beautiful body.”
A short while later, peering at his phone, she discovered the pictures, and it triggered complete emotional dissociation in her. She balked; he apologized; deleted the pictures for her; then, she asked him to leave and dumped him.
The girl herself was a codependent. Codependents have triggers that cause them to overreact to romantic situations, both blowing up excessively and disposing of relationships (as this girl did) as well as dropping all their requirements and chasing to get their lover back (as this girl would have, had Dev used the kind of manipulation tactics/gaslighting that works on codependents… fortunately, he’s too healthy to get sucked into that nonsense).
So, while I don’t recommend snapping photos of a sleeping naked chick (really, I recommend you keep as few pictures of women as possible. None, if you can do it. Just see your girls in real life, and if it ends, say farewell and replace them!), this girl’s overreaction was excessive/unhealthy.
Dev’s biggest screwup was not the picture-taking, however. It was that, when challenged on the pictures he took of her, he did not hold frame.
In particular, he should have held the frame he had originally when he took those photos – that of the lover.
Hey guys. In the upcoming weeks, I will focus on sex talk. This is my signature technique, which many of our advanced readers appreciate. I will share updated insights along with the latest techniques and tools for calibration.
A poster on the Skilled Seducer Forum mentioned some time ago that he struggles with using sex talk. He seems relatively new to it, and it is not a beginner-friendly technique. There are several interesting factors to consider regarding his question.
Here’s what he says.
None of the Sexual Gambits Work
Whenever I use sex talk, it seems to make girls angry and defensive rather than aroused. This is what I usually do. I need to transition into sex talk somehow, so I use anger:
"You know what REALLY frustrated me a while back? I was arguing with a friend about who has it easier, men or women. And he made me mad because he said women!"
Then I show my prizable traits with more frustrated talk:
"…Women have it way harder! To find a guy who can stimulate you both physically and mentally, who can make you feel safe yet desired...that's difficult! Ugh, I really do hate this!"
I say that non-sarcastically, of course. My thought process: It seems like I’m venting, but, in fact, I’m showing prizable traits.
"And how difficult it is to find a guy who can show desire but also control himself. That is what's terrible about being a woman! You can’t find really good men easily, and I HATE that. I feel sorry for all the women out there.
Some women don’t know what they like or what they want. As you know, to arouse a guy, you touch him in that one place, but to arouse a woman, you touch her everywhere else but there. And women need an experienced guy to show them this. It must be terrible looking for such a guy and always being disappointed, ugh."
So, I vent away, expecting heaps of attraction and arousal. However, women usually respond poorly. They argue with anything I say. Or they say they don’t have an opinion and change the topic.
They seem irritated instead of aroused. Am I doing something wrong, or are all the gambits just bad?
(See None of the Sexual Gambits Work)
Before you jump to the conclusion that the person asking this is a noob or frustrated, which may or may not be true, the fact remains that many of my gambits do play around with some negative emotions, such as:
Frustration (I have a gambit called the sexual frustration gambit)
Sex is unfair gambit (referring to unfairness and inequality)
Objectification (discussing sexual objectification of women, then presenting a theory of sexual subjectification)
And these are just a few. They all have a negative underlying connotation. After all, frustration is undesirable, and so is objectification.
The question is straightforward: Does using negativity or referring to negative experiences or states, such as frustration, truly work to transition into sex talk? More specifically, is the OP’s approach successful in practice? And if it is, how do you transition from there?
Responding to my article about girls giving dirty looks, Omar, a Middle Eastern man living in a Nordic country struggling with self-consciousness when he goes out to meet girls, asks this:
am a foregienr in a nordic country and i like going out [solo] without a wing besides am not like a buff dude am a bit skinny. Anyways without going on paychopath i want to not give a fuck or atleast not too much fucks about what others think
Well, the first thing to say is nobody actually doesn’t give a fuck what others think. Everybody cares. The people who seem to care the least typically care the MOST. Since junior high I have sought to cultivate an aura of ‘coolness’, and I’ve had many, many people from high school on proclaim that “Chase is so cool; he doesn’t give a fuck what ANYONE thinks of him!”
The truth is that in cultivating that IDGAF aura I have been probably more intensely focused on how other people reacted to me than anyone else I know.
I have had a number of extremely cool people in my life, who seemed most of the time to not give a fuck what anyone thought of them. But I have seen them all in moments of vulnerability, when that IDGAF veneer fell off, and I witnessed just how deeply they cared about what some person or the other thought about them. There is no one who actually DGAF.
But beyond that: you can indeed ‘thicken your skin’.
You can get to the point where it becomes much, much harder to hurt you or intimidate you.
Yet the road is long and arduous, it is filled with trials, and it is not for the faint of heart.
I’m going to use nightlife as the basis of my examples of ‘not giving a fuck’ here, but the general takeaways apply to everything. Nightlife is just a more extreme environment, and it’s what our commenter Omar asks about; I think it works here, and I’ll use it.