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Your Best Chance Is on the First Date

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your best chance is on the first date
Whether you want a serious or casual relationship with a woman, you need to get her in bed before attraction windows close. Pro tip: your best bet is the first date.

Editor's Note: Pierre has been a long-time member on our boards, and this is his first article on Girls Chase. He'll be 50 this year, divorced in 2012 after 15 years of marriage. Now, after several years back in the game, we’re stoked to add his perspective on women and dating to our blog. Here he starts things off with a very educational story! – BT

By August 2015, I had hit the one-year mark in my seduction education. I had a few successes, but there was still much to learn.

In particular, I was missing a key element in my dating mindset, and it took a monumental failure to finally beat it into my skull. Lucky for me and you, failure is a powerful learning tool, and the story I’m about to relate is what taught me the most important dating lesson I’ve learned so far, namely:

Your best chance to make it happen is to push for sex on the first date.

And that goes for whatever you want to “make happen” – whether that’s just having sex with a girl or making her your girlfriend.

For a lot of guys, this mindset can seem counterintuitive, but I promise you it’s not. In this article, I’ll share the epiphanies that finally convinced me just how crucial – and effective – it is.



Neal's picture

Okay several problems.

1st is a question to Chase and whoever, can someone write an article on how to build a good social profile that can get women to msg men 1st? Or an article where men listed stories.

2nd is I don't buy the "there might not be a 2nd date cuz someone else could take her by then" argument because and when that happens, women constantly have breaks-ups so.

Pierre Navarro's picture


Any social profile where you display significantly more status than the majority should work well. You can try to hint on conspicuous consumption for instance, portraying yourself in five stars hotels or other high class venues, or in a luxury car. Consistently showing pre-selection also works well. In any case, only a minority of women of a certain kind will message you first. The majority will not make the first step. So if you try having women make the first step, you are missing out on a lot of good women who would otherwise be keen to sleep with you.

The fact that many expected second dates never happen, is actually backed by hard empirical evidence. If you are not already doing so, take a look at the forum, you will find many stories along these lines there.

If you are too slow to make your move, another guy will ultimately make the step before you do, that is guaranteed sooner or later.

But another possible (and likely)  reason is that she turned cold on you. That happens more often than not. She rationalizes that, if you didn't make a move, it means you didn't like her sexually. She then protects her own ego by convincing herself that she doesn't like you this way, too. It's called "autorejection" here: either she goes outright cold (and you never hear from her again), or she puts you in the Friend Zone.

Making a mistake in the subsequent communication is another big candidate reason.

Ultimately, being a good Seducer is first and foremost about not fucking things up. Simple truth... sadly so true.


Cheers, Pierre ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Gentlemen's Lifestyle Blog:

Victoria 's picture

Coming from a woman's perspective here, I once went on a date and I thought the guy wasn't interested because he went home instead of taking me to bed. Turns out he was super interested and we did end up dating though. If you don't initiate sex early on, it's easy to miss the moment and end up in the friend zone for sure. 

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Hey Victoria,

Thank you for the feedback, it's very much appreciated!

In this modern world, we men are losing perspective of what it means to be a man, for instance things like what I call "calibrated masculine aggressiveness", or when the man makes a fast, smooth and bold move towards making sex happen. There is this general sense that it would be negatively perceived by the woman. Instead, what many guys (and myself, many years ago!) do, is that they aim at getting a second date, then a third, etc... with the impression that they will ultimately "win her over time". While in the meantime trying to gather clues that the girl is interested and gaining confidence to move things forward. It is a very widespread but very incorrect view of dating.

You ended up dating your man because, in spite of your disappointment, you gave him a second chance. This is because you liked him a lot. But many girls out there won't even bother a second date. And if they grant him a second date nevertheless, they will make things harder for him!

How many first dates in the world end up in disarray because the man failed to move when she was open to his advances?

That's why I think the best chance to make "things happen" is for the man to push for sex on the first date.

Even, and especially, if the goal is to take her as a girlfriend!


Cheers, Pierre ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Gentlemen's Lifestyle Blog:

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