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Your initial approach: how you first start talking to that girl you really like.

Don't Let a Bad Rejection Ruin Your Night Out

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Sometimes a girl rejects you much harsher than she needed to. If you let it, this can ruin your night. Yet, it does not need to.

One of the things you are not going to avoid while learning success with women is the occasional tough rejection.

Maybe she freaked out unnecessarily.

Maybe she said something that felt like a knife shoved in your sternum.

Either way, it sucks when a girl rejects you, especially when it comes out of the blue and is tactlessly delivered. But what if I were to tell you that the water runs deep on this issue and everything is not as it appears? What if you could completely turn around the way you see rejection?

3 Body Position Phases When You Talk to New Girls

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Your body positioning when you approach a new girl tells her a lot about you, fast. If you want to make sure you send the right signals, you want to get the positioning right.

Since lately we’ve been discussing non-verbal seduction, I decided to go a bit further and discuss the actual tools for non-verbal seduction. These upcoming posts will cover in depth some commonly known tools, but they will also discuss some oftentimes disregarded tools that are actually vital – remember that with non-verbal seduction, the devil lies in the details.

To illustrate this properly, I’ve decided to make today’s topic about positioning.

We will base our analysis on clubs and bars, but the exact same principle applies for parties and day game. The reason I use the club is because positioning is more important in this atmosphere and has more nuances in typical night game spots.

By positioning, I am referring to your body’s position relative to the female with whom you are interacting (or trying to interact with, if we are talking pre-approach) – where your body is facing, your distance from her, and even the particular spot where you’re standing can be a big factor. We will discuss all three phases of body positioning in three sections covering three broad seduction phases, namely:

  1. The Pre-opening (before you engage)

  2. The Post-opening (just after you engage – often described as the “hook-phase”)

  3. The Seduction Phase (I am not only referring to when you are making out, or back at your place, but the phase where you have opened, she is hooked in, and you have some rapport, and preferably you are in isolation with her)

Let us now discuss how positioning works during the first phase.

Tactics Tuesdays: How to Approach Girls Who are Eating Alone

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How to approach a girl eating alone – you must disarm her concerns of awkwardness first. Then you turn the tables.

This one’s a bit niche. But hey, I just covered a very broad topic (in great detail!) yesterday in my how to get a girlfriend article. So I think I can tackle a specific one here.

On our discussion boards, forum member CuriosityKillsTheCat asks:

I’ve approached girls eating many times. It was difficult. Most of the time she had to stop and talked with me. Also I hadn’t find a way to move her to another place. Phone numbers were 100% flake.

Do you guys approach girls eating? My school’s cafeteria has many girls sitting alone eating there. I might miss out big opportunities.

(here’s his forum thread on this)

It seems like a simple one to solve: she’s by herself, just go talk to her. Right?

Except it’s a little more complicated than that. Try it out, and you’ll find it’s often a bit awkward and a little intrusive to approach a girl who’s seated alone, eating her meal. You can make her feel trapped, and if there are ample places to sit, you look like you’re chasing her if you go all the way over to her. There are plenty of snares here for you to fall into.

Is there a way to consistently approach girls alone in large cafeterias (or elsewhere), and have it go well?

Warm Up with Physical Momentum and Get Laid Easier

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It may sound silly, but warmed up physically, you do better socially. Running, stretching, and massages actually put girls in your bed.

As mentioned in my previous post on opening, I have the luxury of going out a lot these days. Having a flat in the center of a beautiful European city, along with the ability to go out a lot, allows me to really immerse into this – and I love these periods, because not only do I get the opportunity to create a lot of momentum and really have fun (i.e., get laid), but I also allow myself to discover new things and try out new things.

I have already written extensively about social momentum (also known as “getting/being in state”) both on a macro and micro level, but I have only taken into consideration the psychological aspects, totally disregarding the physical. This is what I will cover in this post today. So if you find topics on momentum useful and interesting, this post will be a great addition for you.

For those of you who are new to all this (and the concepts regarding momentum), do not panic; I will share a brief recap for you before moving on. Some links to some more detailed posts will be provided so you can catch up if you like.

How to Reduce or Eliminate Rejection by Girls

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By: Alek Rolstad

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You can reduce or eliminate rejection with a few simple adjustments. #1, test the water first. #2, approach in passing – and get rejected in passing too.

Hey guys. I hope you are doing great. I have had the luxury of time to head out regularly again. And whenever this happens, I tend to make observations – sometimes new ones – and sometimes I might be reminded of some interesting phenomenon requiring reflection.

This post, along with my upcoming posts, will be more practical. So I hope you ain’t dropping the field just because of the cold weather, because it is time to get practical... and hopefully you will get dirty.

This time I will discuss some dynamics when it comes to opening in clubs and bars. There are many step-by-step processes one might follow and different ways of opening (the never-ending discussion between direct and indirect opening) that all have their pros and cons.

10 Signs a Place is Great to Meet Girls At

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How do you know if a place is good to meet girls at? Look for these 10 signs: girls out-dress guys, girls are fitter than guys, female body art, and more.

In my series on ‘game imbalance hypothesis’ – that some places are easier to meet girls than others, and that harder places train their men to have more skill at bedding and dating women – I discussed how to operate in hard and easy environments. You can read the three articles in the Game Imbalance series below:

  1. Game Imbalance Hypothesis
  2. Navigating Highly Competitive Sexual Markets
  3. Locating Good Low Competition Sexual Markets

Today I wanted to do a follow up post that asks: how else do you recognize if a place is good for meeting girls?

First off, if you haven’t read at least article #3 above, make sure you read that one. I cover a lot of signs there that I won’t go over in this article. This article is more about superficial ‘quick scan’ signs you can look for to make a snap judgment about a place. Article #3 above, on locating low competition markets, digs into the deeper indications a place will be worthwhile (or not). Also be sure to check out Alek Rolstad’s article on choosing the right nighttime spot; if you enjoy nightlife, it’s a must-read.

The ‘quick scan’ signs I’ll go over in this article are all indicators you learn to look for subconsciously once you’ve been at this a while and you’ve grown used to meeting girls in different kinds of environments. They allow you to get a swift feel for the terrain and make a judgment about whether a spot is worth investing your time into, or whether you ought to move on.

I’ve picked up on these over the years as I’ve frequented different venues, different cities, and different cultures and countries. The big benefits of being able to read a situation fast like this is the ability to screen out unproductive locales, but also to endure in productive ones. Due to random variation, sometimes you might strike out the first few girls you approach in what will otherwise be a terrific place for you. If you know it should be good, it’s easier to weather these bumps without writing a place off prematurely.

Notes in mind, let’s get to our ten (10) signs a place is great to meet girls at.

Increase Your Lays, Pt. II: Strategies for 5 Venue Types

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Different venues demand different strategies to do well meeting girls in. Each of these 5 different venues needs its own discrete approach.

Last week, we covered 3 different concepts that could help us in developing a seduction strategy for a given night. Keep in mind that our focus is based on cold approach seduction, and that our aim is primarily to increase our odds of getting laid – but also to get a girl we like.

Those 3 concepts were:

  • Increased volume: simply approach more and play the numbers game.

  • Screening: spend more time before the approach, and approach “better leads” instead of just spam approaching. The catch here is that you approach less and therefore risk losing some good leads.

  • Tighter game: more of a long-term strategy – oftentimes seen as an ideal where you approach a girl and manage to go home with her due to tight seduction skills.

Now, the last concept of “tight game” might seem like the most appealing, but it takes a while to actually build those skills. To become super tight, you actually have to put a lot of work into it. And for many men, it leads to a diminishing return – unless you are a freak like me who just happens to be passionate about this stuff. We will also see in this post that there will be scenarios where you simply cannot get away with playing things smoothly – situations where your seductive vibe and smooth verbal skills mean jack all.

If the previous post was about covering concepts, this post is about practical stuff – probably as practical as it can get. We will cover a few different scenarios and see when and where these concepts should be applied.

Now, this is something that you get better at the more experienced you become; however, I hope this can give you some ideas on how this all works out. There is no point in learning the different situations covered in this post by heart, because every situation is different. What I want you to do is to try to understand why I pick certain strategies over others – and if anything is unclear, you have the comment section below to ask questions, and I will clarify things for you.

Let us get right into it and cover some usual scenarios you might face – keep in mind I will both cover night game scenarios as well as day game scenarios.

Tactics Tuesdays: Do You Eject from Dates or Pickups Too Soon?

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You’ve met a girl, it’s going fine, and then you just... Eject, too soon. You leave too early. You beat yourself up about it later – but what could you have done then?

Want a simple way to get more success out of your dates, courtships, pickups, etc.?

Here it is: don’t eject so fast.

Early ejection plagues beginners in seduction. And the wound is a self-inflicted one.

This sound at all familiar?:

You got up the nerve to approach a girl. She’s cute. Real cute. Your heart rate is going 200 beats per minute. And it’s going okay. She smiled when you walked up, she said “hello”, and now she’s responding to your questions and asking you some back. You make a light joke and she laughs. Yet the pressure just builds and builds. Finally, you excuse yourself: “All right, well, it was nice to meet you!” And then you leave.

You didn’t ask her out; you didn’t take her phone number. Things were going okay, but then you bailed. You had to hit the eject button.

Why does this happen? Well, fear, mostly.

What can you do about it? Well, we’re going to talk about that.

How Screening Game (Sniper Game) Compares to Traditional Game

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Screening game or sniper game is targeting your approach to girls who seem open to you. It has pros over traditional game – but also cons.

Hi. I hope you are doing great. Today I will discuss a new trend that I have seen in this community – a new trend when it comes to approaching girls. Trends come and go in this community, and the latest is situated around what is referred to as screening game.

Now, it doesn’t matter whether or not you have dived deep into this community and learned about the trends – maybe you are just a simple reader or maybe a new reader. I will make sure you get what “screening game” (also called “sniper game”) is. It is a pretty cool form of game. I will list the pros and cons of it and compare it to standard traditional non-screening game... Before I talk about what I personally prefer and like to do when I am meeting women.

Before I begin, I just want to let you know that both styles I will discuss in this article work pretty well, and it is all a matter of personal preference. I do believe, however, that it is key to at least get a grasp on both styles – and preferably learn both.

How to be Resilient (and Bounce Back from Rejection)

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Resilience: it’s your ability to take a hit (rejection) and keep going. The more resilient you are, the better your odds get with girls.

This week I’ve talked about the beginning being the hardest part, and about the belief some (many?) men hold that women are evil, due to bad experiences with girls, rejections, or even just loneliness, isolation, assumption, or projection.

Today I want to get a little more strategic and give you something you can immediately go out and start to improve on. I’d like to talk about how to be resilient.

If you’re unfamiliar with the subject of resilience in the context of meeting, dating, and sleeping with girls, here’s the explanation in puzzle form:

  • Why is it that one man can suffer rejection from a girl, then shrug it off, go meet another girl, charm her socks off, take her home, and have sex with her...

  • While another man may suffer rejection, drop down into a funk, start to feel bad about himself, feel bad about women, not talk to another girl the rest of the day, and go home alone?

The answer to this riddle is ‘resilience’ – the ability to bounce back from defeat; to take a hit and stay in the ring.

Because if you can’t shake off a hit, you’re just one big blow away from ‘crushed’.

But if you can shake the next hit off, you stand a pretty good chance to get that date, get that girlfriend... or just plain old get laid.