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Her Words Don't Show Attraction; Her Behavior Does

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her body language tells you (not her words!)Can ChatGPT tell who is attracted to whom? Not really – but neither can people reading date transcripts. You must be able to OBSERVE BEHAVIOR to tell!

Here’s a paper published this year from the University of New Brunswick’s psychology department that shows that, once again, most of attraction is not coded into words but behavior. From the paper:

What makes people 'click' on a first date and become mutually attracted to one another? While understanding and predicting the dynamics of romantic interactions used to be exclusive to human judgment, we show that Large Language Models (LLMs) can detect romantic attraction during brief getting-to-know-you interactions. Examining data from 964 speed dates, we show that ChatGPT (and Claude 3) can predict both objective and subjective indicators of speed dating success (r=0.12-0.23). ChatGPT's predictions of actual matching (i.e., the exchange of contact information) were not only on par with those of human judges who had access to the same information but incremental to speed daters' own predictions. While some of the variance in ChatGPT's predictions can be explained by common content dimensions (such as the valence of the conversations) the fact that there remains a substantial proportion of unexplained variance suggests that ChatGPT also picks up on conversational dynamics. In addition, ChatGPT's judgments showed substantial overlap with those made by the human observers (mean r=0.29), highlighting similarities in their representation of romantic attraction that is, partially, independent of accuracy.

The paper aimed to see whether an LLM like ChatGPT was capable of predicting who’d go out with whom from a speed dating event. So naturally, they focus on what ChatGPT was able to do in the abstract.

However, ChatGPT wasn’t actually that good at it – its predictions only correlated with reality 12% of the time – but that’s not the interesting part. The interesting part is that other humans simply reading the transcripts of the speed date conversations had almost exactly the same low level of accuracy (13%). Meanwhile, humans able to watch videos of the speed dates were 2.5x as accurate (31%); the participants themselves were on-the-mark a full 50% of the time.

correlations between predicted matching and actual matchingFrom the paper

What that means is that if you are trying to judge a woman’s intentions toward you, you need to be basing that off her body language, not her words.

I’ll explain.

Feeling, Building, and Managing Sexual Tension with Women

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creating & managing sexual tension with girlsSome things raise sexual tension with women – like eye contact and silence – while others (joking, talking) release it. Plus: how to rebuild lost tension.

This post by PrettyDecent originally appeared on our forum here.


Hey fellas,

Thought I’d throw a quick post to the boards before heading out for the evening ;)

When I first started this journey (meeting women), I’d talk to a lot of women, and I was getting laughs and comfort pretty quickly. But when I grabbed their phone number, they generally weren’t answering or were pretty stubborn about planning a date.

Of course, the reason for flaking and bad numbers isn’t the same for everyone – but sexual tension is a key part in making any interaction move forward.

She needs to feel some initial spark of attraction before she complies with you.

So hopefully this post shall shed some light for folks struggling here!

The keywords are tension and pressure. When you’re in a conversation with a girl, she should be feeling nervous around you. And here’s the secret: you ought to be feeling nervous, too! Why is this? Because tension is felt by both people, but one cracks during the pressure, and the other puts up a face of calm.

If you’ve ever heard of the game “chicken”, you’ll know what I mean – two people in their cars drive toward each other in a potential head-on collision to see who will bow out first. The guy can win and the girl will continue to feel (more) sexual attraction toward him, or he’ll lose and be that much closer to the friend zone.

Here are some examples.

Generation Z Is Ditching Dating Apps. So Where Do They Get Dates?

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Where's Generation Z Getting Its Dates?Members of Generation Z are 15% less likely to meet their dates on dating apps. Instead, they’ve turned to friends, work, and real-life events to find love.

I’ve been telling folks to quit using dating apps so darn much for a long time.

Older folks have stubbornly ignored this advice. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks! 74% of dating app users are ages 30+. When you consider the fact that the average American is married by age 30, that’s a whole lotta divorcés, lifelong bachelors, and spinsters on these apps… and not very many young & singles by comparison.

online dating service users in the United States as of September 2023, by age groupThe prime demographic for dating apps is less and less interested.

Partly, that is because Generation Z has been abandoning dating apps in droves.

As Time Magazine aptly notes

Given that Gen-Z currently includes 18 to 27 year olds, one would assume they would be prime candidates for the swipe-and-match of dating apps. But that’s not the case. Despite the growing trend of dating apps being where people go to find partners in the U.S., Gen-Z seems to be opting out.

The New York Times reports that “the two largest dating-app companies are facing serious problems with younger users.” It lists reasons given by Gen Zers on TikTok, Reddit, and Instagram such as:

  • Swiping feeling too transactional & unnatural
  • Distrust in profit-oriented dating companies
  • Being sick of fake profiles on apps
  • Disinterest in hookup culture
  • Better ways to meet people (& for free) exist

“In my opinion, dating apps are for people who are kind of desperate for something,” the Times quotes 28-year-old schoolteacher Alexa Valavicius as saying. Remember in 2015 when everybody said online dating was no longer for desperate people – it had gone mainstream? Well the ol’ ‘desperation reputation’ has begun to creep back in!

The author of the Times article, Gina Cherelus, notes she “realized that being on the apps gave the illusion that I was putting effort into my dating life, when really I was spending a couple hours a week swiping for 30 minutes and calling it a day. And my self-confidence was taking a hit.” She continues

Surprisingly, I find that my dating life is more active since giving up the apps in the fall of 2022. Knowing that I’ve eliminated them as an option to meet people has made me more inclined to engage in conversation with a stranger at a cafe, bookshop or house party.

In other words, ditching dating apps made her more social, and more open to men’s approaches.

Fortune reported on Bumble slashing 1/3 of its workforce in late 2024. The article paraphrases a research analyst as saying, “The redesign of the app has seemingly not been enough to court younger users.” Bumble lost $40 billion in market share value between 2021 and 2024.

But if Generation Z is flocking off the dating apps, where are they going now to look for love (or flings)?

Tactics Tuesdays: Baby Step Approaching (for Severe Approach Anxiety or Rust)

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super baby steps to get you approaching girlsIf you’re having a tough time getting yourself to approach women, these are the 7 steps you need. In 30 minutes, you’ll OBLITERATE your approach anxiety.

Sub-Zero, our long-struggling reader, recently requested an even simpler way to dip your toes into the ‘approach girls’ pool than our Newbie Assignment:

3. Do you have baby steps for approaching with the newbie assignment or just approaching in general? I need the most simplest, easiest way to approach because for some reason I can’t do it. I can talk when girls talk to me, but anything with me having to start the convo or me having to carry the convo and close, I just can’t do it.

I know you thought I meant in general and thought I was ok with night clubs, I’m better there, but after being out the game for so long, I just can’t open, carry the convo, or close, especially for day game.

All right, so here are the SUPER BABY STEPS for making an approach on a girl.

If your approach anxiety is crippling or you’re so rusted over your approach muscles won’t budge an inch, this is the guide you want to follow.

This is what I use personally to jump into action any time I’ve acquired some rust and need to get back to it. This also allows you to get into gear pretty quick, assuming you have some prior approaching experience.

If you don’t have prior experience approaching women, you don’t have to go through all this – just go up to the level you are comfortable with. Then try to go a little further the next time.

How to Become a High Status Hero in Your Social Circle Scene

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how to become popular in your sceneYou’ve joined a new scene with new people. How do you rise to the top and break into the ‘in’ crowd? Follow these 9 popularity rules & you WILL get there!

This post by MonsieurLabrie originally appeared on our forum here.

Girls on the Prowl Find Men Handsomer

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girls on the prowl find men hotterResearch shows that women who want to meet a man rate men handsomer in general. When she’s on the prowl, EVERY guy’s a Prince Charming to her!

I know a lot of guys are very focused on their looks.

So this study should be intriguing. From the study:

It was found that the more interested women were in meeting members of the opposite sex, the more attractive they viewed the opposite-sex patrons in the bar. (Interest was not found to affect the attractiveness of the opposite-sex confederate.) For men, no relationship was found between interest and physical attractiveness ratings.

Regarding the “opposite-sex confederate” bit: the researchers paired men and women up with an average-looking opposite-sex companion and sent them to a bar together. They wanted to see if the ‘beer goggles’ effect was real.

They found that it for women it wasn’t. As the night went on, women rated men’s looks worse – both the looks of the guy they went there with and the other patrons in the bar. Further, the drunker women got, the harsher critics they were of the looks of men!

(men, for the record, rated other female bar patrons the same at the beginning and end of the night – however they rated the average-looking girl they came with a whopping 19% better-looking by the end of the night!)

The one exception to the harsh judgments women made: women who were on the prowl.

The more a girl was out to meet men, the better-looking the guys in the bar looked to her.

"Women Are Such Sluts and Have Awful Taste in Men"

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total slut? awful taste in men?Does it seem like women are out there slutting it up, picking the worst men, because their taste in men is just so poor? Is that real… or is it illusion?

Commenting on my article “How Girls Think“, a reader named Walter remarked the following:

You, and pretty much every dating expert or PUA always portray women as cautious beings who judge every move you make and put every word of your’s on a scale. If that were true how come women sleep with many men? How come they complain about almost every man they have slept with and return to the “toxic” men they have been with? If we know one thing for sure it’s that women rarely ever make the “right” decision for them, at least not what they had in mind. So how can men really pay attention to their sigins when their signs are contradicting?

I hear stuff like this a lot pouring out of the red pill side of the Internet. It’s definitely fantastic rage bait and gets men stirred up into all kinds of inflamed passions.

Is it true? Are women, like Walter insists, all big sluts who go around shagging tons of men while also having atrocious taste in men and annoyingly complaining endlessly about said atrocious taste?

Well, women sure do complain a lot, I’ll give you that.

However, this perception of women as giant sluts with awful taste in men, as you will soon see, is dramatically amplified online (the matrix) far beyond offline reality by a certain few parties who (mostly) unintentionally blow it up: pickup artists, red pill figures, as well as women themselves.

Am I saying women themselves make themselves come across far looser and sluttier with far worse taste in men than they in fact actually have?

Yes indeed I am!

Come along on a wild ride with me and I’ll show you just how.

If You Have Motivation or Libido Problems, Stop Jerking Off & Smoking Weed

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unmotivated? low libido? stop jerking off and smoking pot!Dudes keep announcing all these motivation and sex drive difficulties… and then it turns out they jerk off and smoke weed. Well, duh! Knock that trash off!

Over the years I have had countless guys come to me in article comment sections, on the forum, or elsewhere to complain they are having all these problems

  • Getting motivated to go pick up girls

  • Projecting sexual intent with girls

  • Getting a firm erection with girls

  • Maintaining a normal libido & sex drive

  • Not being overly emotional with girls

We spend all this time troubleshooting, talking about various fixes to these problems but the guys still can’t get around them.

Then it comes out these guys are jerking off all the time and smoking marijuana.

And I am like, “Well, duh! Why are we even talking about other solutions then? Why didn’t you just say that FIRST?”

Apparently, a lot of men do not realize that jerking off all the time and smoking marijuana negatively impacts your ambition, energy, libido, erection firmness, and sexual prowess.

So let’s just be real clear about that now:

Frequent masturbation and/or frequent marijuana toking corrodes your drive and sex energy.

Frames & Frame Control, Simply Explained

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frames explainedFrames (as used in the social & seductive arts) may appear abstract. Yet they’re key to human interaction. He who controls the frame gets the dame.

I started a thread on our forum asking members what concepts in seduction they struggled to grasp. One that came up repeatedly was about frames: frame control, frame grabbing, and simply frames themselves.

Frame is a key concept in pickup. Like all concepts, you don’t have to technically understand the concept to figure out how to do it. A lot of naturals are frame control masters who would not know what you were talking about (at least at first) if you started telling them they had ironclad, magnetic ‘frames’.

To help you really grasp what frames are and how to use them, we’re going to take a closer look at this powerful-but-abstract psychological concept.

What to Say When She Says "Add Me on Instagram"

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what to do when she asks you to add her on InstagramGirls today use “add me on Instagram” as their default close line – and brush off. If you’d like to be MORE than just another nameless follower, read on.

There’s an epidemic right now of women shifting men over to Instagram followers when those men try to go for the contact close.

  • “Add me on Instagram!”
  • “Follow me on Instagram!”
  • “Hit me up on Insta!”
  • “Let me give you my IG!”

^ do any of those sound familiar?

Men who are new to pickup are going through the same process over and over again, where they are feeling pressure from girls to comply with the “Instagram reflex” and do, then it doesn’t go anywhere, then it happens again with the next girl, then the next, until eventually they figure out that adding girls on Instagram is a big waste of time.

I am seeing guys go through this discovery process over and over, each man discovering it separately/independently, after much individual frustration and failure.

Rather than force you to have to go through that, I figured I’d give you a shortcut:

How to handle the Instagram reflex in a way that’s far more likely to lead to actual dates & lays.