Chill Out. You Don't Need to Be Perfect to Get Girls!

This post by Warped Mindless originally appeared on our forum here.
Beginner daters, socializers, and seducers start here
This post by Warped Mindless originally appeared on our forum here.
In 2001, I, a somewhat taller than average, somewhat more attractive than average, slim American white guy with a deep voice who’d been called “the man” and “bad ass” by the coolest kids in high school and had been chased for dates by the prettiest and most popular girls (and cheerleaders) in high school went to work in a tire store.
There I met Jim, a short, fat, swarthy Puerto Rican tire salesman with a higher-pitched voice who lived in a ramshackle rented single-family home that was really only good for throwing parties.
Jim was the first guy I ever met who was an out-and-out player. He was constantly sleeping with good-looking white girls, such as our boss’s over 6’ modelesque cousin when she visited from England (she had a good 7 inches on him at least). That girl messaged him furiously after returning to England that she couldn’t sleep with her boyfriend anymore because she wanted only Jim now.
Meanwhile, of course, Jim was happily sleeping with more, new girls… not to mention his sweet blonde girlfriend, who went out of her way to bring him sandwiches for lunch at the tire shop.
I’d never been on a date in my life at this point, and despite the attention I got in high school had no idea what to say to girls. I didn’t watch Jim with envy… more like perplexed wonder.
How did he do it? What exactly was he doing to score all these girls?
I never asked him, because I was too proud to ask. Plus if I admitted that I couldn’t get girls I’d look weak. (even though he clearly knew right away anyway)
But I can tell you now, the #1 factor that differentiated 18-year-old Chase from 25-year-old Jim:
I had a ton of limiting beliefs, but Jim had none.
Commenting on my article about dating for autistic men (where I remarked how autistic guys often become ‘approach machines’ who chew through hundreds/thousands of approaches with little to show for it), Sub-Zero asks
I’m just wondering if it takes hundreds to thousands of approaches to get a lay or a few, how are guys still going after getting rejected so much?
If I approached 20 women during day game and couldn’t get a lay, I’d be discouraged. If I did get a lay, but I had to approach 20 more to get another, I’d probably get lazy and take what I can get. So, how are guys getting a lot of lays with all these approaches it seems like you have to focus a lot on doing this, when are you free to do other things?
I think I’ve been misunderstanding cold approaching numbers.
All right, so first off, most men are not autistic. Most guys are not going to need to do hundreds (or God forbid thousands) of approaches to get a single lay off of cold approach.
That said, cold approach is not social circle game. It is going up to talk to strangers to find out who’s available, attracted, and receptive to your game. Many girls you approach won’t be any of those, or maybe some but not all of those.
For this reason, it is and always will be a numbers game.
Like anything that is a numbers game, most guys will try it out, try grinding for a bit, not get much back for their results, and burn out on it.
Getting good at cold approach requires a man to make it past that initial ‘heavy grinding burnout phase’ that serves as a major filter to cold approach success.
Let’s talk about how to do that and avoid taking a walk down cold approach’s ‘wash out lane’.
Just like cold approach, texting is a skill you can refine over time. With practice, you can become so proficient that you won’t even need to go on dates—girls will come straight to your place for sex. (If you want more details on that, check out this example of how an average guy got laid.)
Similar to cold approach, I’m not a fan of being overly scripted. That’s why, despite receiving numerous requests, I never put together a rigid texting sequence. That said, I’ve found a few messages that work really well. Use these in your texting game, and you’ll be way ahead of the competition.
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Step 1: Strong First Impression
Step 4: Propose Low Effort Date
You meet a girl, have a nice conversation, and ask her out.
She says “yes!” Fantastic!
But just because you’ve got her contact and an appointment to meet doesn’t mean she’ll show up. What can you do to make sure she shows up for her date with you?
In this guide, I’ll lay out five (5) recommended steps for ensuring girls show up to their dates with you – plus two more optional steps you can take.
Follow the guide, and your “date show-up rate” will go higher than that of anyone else you know.
I was responding to a thread on the forum where forum member Arnav asked about how to keep cold approach conversations going beyond the first 30 seconds. He brought up difficulty dealing with girls he approached who only seemed neutral or polite.
Here’s a description of a similar phenomenon written by another forum member, RDRChaseMember:
So from my usual experiences with cold approach, they're usually I pay a compliment to her and try to open, and they walk away or don't stop to talk to me, fine. The other experience I get from it (though pretty rare) is that they do engage in a conversation with me enthusiastically, we're making long conversation, and I go for a number. Yet, when I follow up with them, I don't hear anything back from them.
It's almost as if I should expect general disinterest most of the time.
In one of my responses to Arnav (who wants to know how to keep cold approach conversation going beyond 30 seconds), I shared a secret to getting girls that veteran seducers all sooner or later figure out: that women reflect your mood right back at you, thanks to the power of emotional contagion. In other words, if you want a girl to respond a certain way to your approach, be that way on the approach.
Here’s what I told Arnav:
This is one of the magic tricks a good seducer has that regular guys don't: he can approach a girl and using nothing but his own expressiveness and her mirror neurons he can elicit what appears to be a high degree of interest from her right away. When I used to take guys out in-field and do demonstration approaches the guys would always comment after, "Wow, that girl was REALLY into you!" Sometimes she is, but sometimes she is just mirroring my approach, because that is what women do if you seem like a reasonably cool guy and you are being EXPRESSIVE. But get her to mirror you long enough and even the girls who weren't all that interested can start to wonder to themselves if maybe they are.
Today I’m going to let you in a little more on this secret of emotionally expressive approaches, that way you don’t have to wait until you’re 3 or 4 years deep in seduction before you puzzle this one out on your own (3-4 years in is right around when this one truly clicks for the average self-taught playboy).
I keep hearing this same phrase and variations thereof chanted over and over by men across the Internet:
“Getting girls is too much work!”
“Women aren’t worth the effort!”
“No woman is worth doing this!”
I see guys miming it all over social media anytime anyone talks about getting girls.
I see it parroted randomly on forums and article comment sections online.
It’s repeated so freely and easily, and repeated so verbatim, that it’s clear it’s a gut-level response, bleached deep into men’s psyches, that they’ve absorbed from the red pill Internet and internalized.
But if getting girls is a lot of work, I just have this to say to you, amigo:
The way you’re using to get them is the WRONG way!
This post by DoWhatWorks originally appeared on our forum here.
TLDR: If you're on this site, self-improvement focused and avoid doing stupid things around girls you'll stand out against 99% of guys.
You likely don't give yourself enough credit. Remember there are plenty of cool/attractive girls you can get by putting in numbers and this recent looks obsession/maxxing is an insecurity marketing tactic which if I'm honest I occasionally fall victim too. Goodlooking loser had a great post on this (“Hollywood Loves Your Inferiority Complex, Part 1”) back in the day.
Taking a stroll down a leafy city sidewalk today I connected a few separate factors I hadn’t before connected. Men have had a lot of complaints recently about women not signaling them, even as women have complained about men not approaching them. Many of us in seduction have noticed that women’s signaling frequency has gone down compared to a decade+ ago.
People are more introverted, shier, with poorer social skills overall – and a lot less likely to be in what I call ‘social mode’.
I’ve talked before on Girls Chase about how you’re a lot more likely to elicit signals from women when you’re attuned to women and the environment around you. We’ve also talked about how to elicit approach invitations from women using attention grabs before. We’ve even talked about prompting women to approach you outright!
The dots I connected during today’s sidewalk stroll however connect all these factors into an overall social fabric that makes the ‘signal decline’ make a lot more sense.
As the founder of the highest traffic men’s dating advice website in history, I’ve fielded comments, questions, and laments from men on the autism spectrum for decades.
I’ve seen many success stories among students of the game who are also on the spectrum. I also have a pretty firm grasp at this point of what the limitations are for such men.
If you’re new to Girls Chase and don’t know who I am, I am a ‘neurotypical’ dating & relationship expert whose stock in trade is breaking down complex social and romantic concepts into their essences. My approach is relentless practicality and understandability in what I teach; to take concepts I and other Don Juans understand at an intuitive level, and break them down them in simple terms accessible to beginners. Due to the nature of my insights and analyses, this site has proven popular with men on the autism spectrum over time.
That said, I realize there are a lot of trained specialists out there who work dedicatedly with men on the autistic spectrum.
I am not an ‘autism specialist’. If part of your requirement for accepting advice is that the advice giver come through an institutional credentialing program, close this page now and contact your nearest autism specialist for a consultation instead.
If, however, you’d like a pathway forward for you in dating, despite the struggles that come from being on the autism spectrum, read on.