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There are plenty of “flashy” seducers out there. Flashy doesn’t always (or even often) mean good though. Instead, look for these 6 signs a guy’s got talent with women.

Is it possible to tell whether somebody has good game?

Say you are out with a guy and want to determine whether he’s someone you should learn game from. Or maybe you saw a guy do something you found cool, and you want to determine whether it is working to get him laid. What are the signs that really define whether someone is good, not so good, or downright bad?

It’s pretty easy to spot people who are really bad with women, but finding those who are good is actually harder than one may think. Some people tend to be amazed by certain guys when they’re not actually amazing at all.

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drfeelg00d's picture

nice article summing up your philosophy of seduction and approach to the game (low-key + efficiency)

SINCE you requested ;) I have two suggestions for further articles.

a) competition. I mean from what I can tell you love to go to high end places. do you steal girls? how do you prevent your girls from being stolen. how do you deal with guys that have better fundamentals than you?

b) verbal / vibe calibration. your game is indirect and based on the reaction of the girls. the examples about calibration that you gave in this article are quite basic (no criticism!). for instance:
on a macro level:
how do you calibrate considering the girl's overall personality (shy or outgoing, experienced or inexperienced, young or old, artist or career type of girl etc...)
do you always stick to the same vibe or do you for instance add some aloofness to it, depending on the type of girl?

on a micro level:
how do you calibrate to specific responses to you, in the beginning the famous red - yellow - green scheme
then later what if she denies a compliance test, what if she rejects a frame set by one of your gambits

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Alek Rolstad's picture

Thanks man. I am happy you enjoyed this article.

Regarding verbal/vibe calibration, I will make a post on it (out in 2 weeks), so I will not say too much about it. However, calibration is something really hard to explain. Every situations differs, every girl differs. It is therefore super hard to convey everything in words. It just comes through experience - there are no ways to truly cover it. I will however share some pointers. Hopefully it should clarify a few things.

When it comes to competition: I don't really think about it. It rarely happens a guy steals a girl from me. And if it does happen, no problem, I will just grab a new one.

Guy may often come in and try to amog me, but I just stay icecold and calm and have witty comebacks. They eventually go away. I could make a post on this. But usually the guy gets to talk to my girl for a few seconds, then my girl comes back to me. The best way to prevent guys from stealing your girls is to hook your girls... and when my girls are hooked, all other guys can do is serve as pawns for her jealousy schemes. In this case I just remain calm and 95% of the times it goes well. I men are stealing girls from you, you shouldn't focus on how to prevent from being stolen, but focus on hooking them so well that they cannot be stolen. It is all in the hook.

How do I deal woth guys with better fundamentals than me? Well I rarely meet any of those. Not to sound bragging, but most guys don't have game, and my fundamentals are pretty tight. They should be that way after 10 years of intensive in field practice.

I do not steal girls, at least not on purpose. I find doing such a thing to be a dick move. I therefore refrain from it. I get my own girls.

-Alek

Thelema's picture

Nothing to add here except:
1) The content on this site is remarkable.
2) The fact that you guys find ways to cover new ground, or cover old ground from different or more refined angles, is UTTERLY astonishing.
Please keep it up.

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Alek Rolstad's picture

Regarding both on the comments,

The GC team and I thank you for your appreciation and we will do our best to make sure you maintain this opinion of us!

Thank you,
Alek

Fml's picture

Honestly, I believe game is overrated. Women look at men's attractiveness (mostly face and height) as an indication of whether or not they will sleep with a man, especially for something short-term. If she likes you physically you wont have to do much, just lead her and dont mess up. If youre below her looks threshold youre done, it doesnt matter how much game you have. Game only works when she already likes your looks. These PUA guys act like they need to generate attaction by acting like a clown smh. Alek, I have a feeling you are a very good looking guy lol

Tom Lee's picture

Hi i understand if a girl shows enough physical compliance (ie kissing u in car, touching your thigh voluntarily), you can pull her to public toilet for sex, however how about introvert girls? Girls that seem not DTF not showing enough overt interest but she just stays there.

P/S: i'm living with my family, what IF she also lives with her family. It seems like an introvert girl impossible to pull to a public place, at least IMO on day2/3.

Thanks, appreciate your advices.

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Alek Rolstad's picture

Well there are no good answers to give here. She doesn't have logistics? you don't? well I surely cannot create them for you. However, you can always move on. This has been my go-to move when I had no logistics and was relying on on girl's logistics. If they had logistics, I'd keep on going, if they didn't i'd move on. I would usually screen for their logistics (i.e. check the waters - like does she live alone? far away? etc) before investing a lot of time.
We have covered this subject a lot on GC
http://www.girlschase.com/content/how-go-her-place-smoothly-even-if-you-...
http://www.girlschase.com/content/going-her-place-tools-get-you-more-yesses

Now regarding your girl, as you say there are three options:
- Take her back to yours and not care about your parents. I do not know what background they have. But I used to be hesitant about bringing girls back home when I lived with my folks. However I went back to my home-country last month and decided at the age of 26 to bring a one night stand pull back to my dads. He did not care, I kinda did, but was fun. You may convince your parents that you really like this girl and you want to get to know her (tell them she is a potential GF if you have to). She also lives with her parents, so no shame on your side to live with yours.
- Afterparties are an option. Fuck her there. http://www.girlschase.com/content/how-use-after-parties-get-laid
- Public sex is an option, but it is hard. It is advanced game. I will some links about it, but unless you have lots of experience with women, got tight calibration and your fundamentals in check, I cannot guarrantee you a rate of success. Your whole set up also feels off for public sex as usually they are caused by high amounts of horniness, during sponteanous hooks with rather adventurous girls (who you've screened for). You seem to know her to well. Too much rapport kills the spontaneous hook up frame. Additionally you mention she is introverted which will make it super hard to calibrate with (as they rarely show any signs of interest (nor disinterest) which you need to see in order to pull of the next level calibration required for public sex.

My advice is, pull her back home. You may keep things warm between you two until your parents decides to leave for a week end or for a nigh and pull her. I did that a lot in the past (most likely way to succeed). You may try to convince her to bring her back to her folks, but it most likely won't work (but could work, just unlikely).

When it comes to public sex, based on the info presented... I am skeptical about it. However, you may still check out those. I would not go for it unless you are experienced.

http://www.girlschase.com/content/how-hook-when-you-have-no-logistics
http://www.girlschase.com/content/sex-logistics-how-get-intimate-unusual...

Sorry for not being of better help.

Alek

Lawliet's picture

Hey Alek,

Great article buddy!
Being here so long from when you were first here, your writing is just getting better and better.

You changed a lot but to be honest, you were a big part of my growth too.
If you ever come by vancouver, let me know.
We will have a blast together ;)

Re: Can't hear you
"You wouldn’t be able to follow each of the words I say to a girl nor should you"

Very funny.
Though on a serious note, how do you speak with a girl in a way that others can't hear?
I've seen other guys do this as I try to listen in.
But when I interact with girls, it feels like everyone around me can hear...and I'm not shouting either.

What's your secret? ^^

Lawliet

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Alek Rolstad's picture

Thank you man. Your kind words are much appreciated.

I live in Europe so going to Canada is a bit of project, but if I am near Vancouver, I will let you know.

About girls not hearing you... which happens to be more or problem in loud clubs. If that is the case, I tend to either:
- Focus more on non-verbals
- Limit my verbals to simpler talks to get the convo going, perhaps shoot some cool lines, but avoid that deep talks. The sentences need to be quick and swift as she cannot listen to you for long. The content needs to be simple. But the majority of the "sexyiness" comes from non-verbals

I do tend to avoid the super noisy clubs. I select venues with smoking areas, lounge areas or clubs that are not that loud. I have written a lot on venue selection in the past. Many of the good clubs have smoking or outdoor areas. You may meet women outside, get enough compliance to get her outside where you run your magic (even if her friends come). Perhaps they would like to go back in? no problem, you go with them if the vibe is good. Loud music and dancefloor are good escalation areas. If you've managed to set the frames and build attraction in the quiet area this should not be a problem.

You may also go full-blown smoking area/lounge area game. Or perhaps you find yourself in a venue where you can use social proof? then use that. You do not need to talk much for that.

Or inside a loud room, there are also areas where the music is less loud. Perhaps open chicks there?

This is a good idea for a future post.

Thank you

-Alek

Lawliet's picture

Sorry I meant what you said in the article:

You wrote:
"You wouldn’t be able to follow each of the words I say to a girl nor should you, because you would be talking to her friend"

I wanted to learn how you could interact with a girl, talking with her and not have anyone around you follow each of the words you say. Because when I meet girls, it feels like we are talking very clear and loud and other people can hear every word. And I don't like that feeling.

Lawliet

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