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Moving from standard attraction to physical and emotional intimacy with a woman of your choice.

Girl Types: Distracted or Sexually Repressed Women

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Ever meet a girl whom you never see express sexuality in any way, around you or any other guy? She might not be asexual – she might just be repressed.

Sometimes a woman's sexuality is repressed.

Or, she is so distracted by her other interests in life that boys and sex take a back seat.

When you meet her and you're with her, you won't pick up on any kind of sexual vibe from her. She doesn't talk about sex with you. If you bring it up, she changes the subject. If you joke about it, she ignores the joke. All the fun sexual stuff you do with most girls to her just bounces off. The vibe is 'interested in you but not really in a romantic way'.

Yet, if you do things right, and continue to lead her forward, you can bed her. She is not a 'friend zone' girl or someone without a sex drive.

It's confusing at first. Every guy's met girls his tactics don't work on because the girl's not interested. Such a girl deflects everything you say or do, yet 10 minutes later you see her draped all over another guy. The problem in this case is not 'her'... it is 'her plus you/your game'.

With distracted or repressed girls, this is not the case. You'll do your thing with them, not get your usual reaction, but then if you walk off they will not be draped over another guy should you see them later. If you're in a bar or another place people socialize lots, they might be in another non-sexual looking conversation, or they'll still be alone, having had some other guys come up, take their shots, fail to feel anything happening, then wander off too.

Repressed/distracted girls tend to often actually be fairly straightforward to bed... if you know how they work.

This article is about how they work.

Some Girls Test Men Early in the Game, Others Test Late

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By: Alek Rolstad

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Girls will test men before opening up to sex. But just because she throws you tests early on doesn’t mean the whole seduction will be tedious. The opposite is also true.

Hey guys, and welcome back.

Today I want to cover a VERY COMMON bias that I see a lot of men fall for. It is also one that I have been prone to fall for myself.

One assumes that just because a girl seems difficult in one aspect, she is difficult in EVERY aspect.

This is not always the case. I will explain why and share some personal experiences.

You can see how this bias can have a detrimental effect on your success with women. You will drop women who could have been good mates because you wrongly perceived them as unattainable or too much work, when in fact, they weren’t.

This bias holds you back. But being aware of it will:

  • Make you aware that pickup and seduction is not always as hard as it seems, adding motivation and less frustration.

  • Embolden you to go for amazing women you would otherwise screen out.

  • Help you avoid demoralization during the pickup. By facing challenges, you do not get discouraged by assuming everything with this girl is hard.

Let me explain this bias, then share examples.

Master the Vibe: The Best Seducers Attune to Vibe

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By: Chase Amante

seductive vibe
Beginner seducers often focus a lot on rules. Yet master seducers may break rules. The reason? Rules are only good so long as they help the VIBE.

A long time ago, there was a monthly subscription course called Master the Vibe (MTV) put out by a couple of guys I really respected. Some of my early newsletters went out to the MTV email list, back before I'd founded Girls Chase.

The Master the Vibe product was simple: one of the coaches would go out, record himself picking up a girl, mostly during the daytime, then they'd break down the pickup from first approach to the close of the seduction (typically with the girl back at his place or in bed). It was a wonderful product.

At the time, I thought the name Master the Vibe was curious. Just sort of a neat-sounding name, that referred to vibing, because being able to vibe is good, and having a good vibe is good.

Yet as I moved beyond intermediate with girls, and as I began to hang out with more and more highly skilled naturals, I realized vibe isn't just a thing that helps you do better with women (and people in general).

Vibe is actually kind of the point.

Tactics Tuesdays: How to Use Guilt Trips (Playfully)

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By: Chase Amante

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You can guilt trip women in fun, light ways (without putting a lot of pressure on them or being manipulative) to keep your courtships moving forward. The secret is the 'fun' part…

Don't worry, we're not going to talk about the Scumbag Steve, Dark Side version of this.

This article's about something Light. It's the playful version of guilt tripping.

Guilt trips are a persuasion tool you can use to get a woman out of her head and thinking about things from your perspective. They add another piece of the puzzle to an equation where a woman may only have been thinking about her own immediate wants.

You can use this kind of fun 'guilt trip' to accomplish various useful items:

  • Get a woman to stick around longer with you in-person
  • Get her to rethink her decision to cancel plans / flake
  • Get her to comply with a request or agree to a venue change

And more. We'll talk about how below.

Do it in a playful way, and you have a nice little pattern interrupt that shakes a woman out of the pattern she was in, and often loosens up the vibe a good bit to boot.

Pickup vs. Seduction: Is There a Difference? (Yes!)

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By: Chase Amante

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Pickup: the art of finding a girl to take home. Seduction: the art of influencing her mind, to create desire and other urges. How do the two relate… and which is better?

On Tuesday I talked about succeeding with closed or 'impossible' girls... inspired by a tussle over the subject we had on the Boards.

There's another nuance I want to discuss before we wrap this subject up though. That is the distinction between pickup and seduction.

While related -- and while the two terms are often used interchangeably (including by me) -- they are in fact different.

Knowing what the difference between the two terms is will aid your thinking about both... as well as your ability to use each area in the most effective way.

How to Get Those Attention Seeking Club Girls

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You’re in a club. A girl walks by and grabs your ass. Then she bolts and won’t talk to you. WTF? She’s an attention seeking freak, and here’s how to get her in bed.

Hey guys, and welcome back.

Today I’ll respond to a question guys have asked on the forum. I assumed other men would enjoy having this question answered, too.

The question is: How do we deal with freaks in clubs?

Freakiness tends to be amped up to 11 in night club scenarios. Some of you may not be familiar with the term “freak.” It was coined by a deceased seducer called PlayerSupreme (RIP). According to him, there are three types of women:

  1. Good girls (nice, kind, affectionate girls); however, HE NEVER claimed that those girls were asexual Madonnas

  2. Hoes (the gold digger and status seeker)

  3. Freaks (weird girls who use their sexuality to gain power and get male attention; they tend to have higher sex drives than other women, but not always)

So, today’s discussion will be about how to deal with the third type of woman. For a better idea of what we are discussing, here’s an example.

Say you are at a club having fun. Out of the blue comes this girl who tells you something sexually explicit, acts in a sexually explicit way, or touches you in a sexually explicit way.

She may tell you how much she likes sucking dick, or perhaps she simply comes up to you, grinds her ass on you, or even touches your dick.

And you, happy as a clam, believe she is doing this because she is:

  • Super horny (easy prey)

  • Very sexually open, one of those “sexual women” (I have discussed this topic many times; this is usually a bias; those who seem most sexually open are not necessarily those who are)

  • Really into you

Pleased and excited, you reciprocate her move. You start showing sexual interest in return. You may touch her or make an overt move.

Only to realize that the moment you do, she walks away.

When you try to re-engage, she turns cold or starts ignoring you. It is frustrating. What the heck just happened? (I'll answer this in a bit.)

Even worse, you realize she’s now flirting with another guy, probably doing the same thing she did to you.

“But she was such easy prey; she showed so much interest in me.” You are a bit dumbfounded and creeped out.

The truth is, you have been played. And I will tell you how and why.

How to Use Plausible Deniability to Get Her to Leave with You

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Women often resist going home with you because they don’t want to appear slutty. To bypass this issue, all she needs is plausible deniability, which you can provide.

Hey guys, and welcome back.

Today I want to discuss a phase that many men struggle with: the extraction phase. It’s a phase prone to resistance and also the time you get an indication of whether you have successfully built compliance and dealt with her resistance even though other factors like mood changes, wildcards, and logistical factors may pop up at the last minute.

Therefore, I consider this phase important to master. You may get lucky, things may go smoothly, and she goes home with you without you delivering a tight game. But that is simply pure luck, and you cannot rely on this.

You must always try to go for the extraction, whether you feel the vibe is perfect or subprime. The number one reason men do not get laid consistently is that they do not make an invitation for it. They do not try to get the girl to leave with them; they do not try to extract.

Some guys may be too nervous about doing it, or it could be they want to protect their ego and not take the chance to ruin the connection. It feels so much better for your ego to leave a girl, falsely believing you could have banged her. But the truth is, if she did not leave with you, there is no “could have banged her.” You either bang her or you don’t. If you do not try to extract, you will never know.

So, always be extracting.

Even if the vibe is not right, and closing time is near, it is better to just go for it. You never know. Maybe she is an easy one; maybe she is not that into you. She might just decide that it is late and wants to have fun. You don’t know unless you try.

So, always be extracting.

In the past, I’ve discussed how to extract and get her to leave with you. I have also gone over how to go to a girl’s place (the system is very similar, just a few tweaks added).

Here’s the system:

  • Reach a high note (generate compliance, reach a peak in emotions and compliance, and strike)

  • Give a reason to leave (“It’s so loud in here.”)

  • Find an excuse to go back to your place (“Do you like wine? Ah, good, let’s get back to my place and continue this conversation.”)

  • Lower the pressure (“I don’t live far away.”)

  • Persist (back off, build more compliance, handle potential resistance)

  • Try again if you fail (persistence)

This template applies here as well and is probably the standard model most would agree with.

What we will discuss today is how to use plausible deniability to aid your extraction.

We’ve examined this subject before, but I want to give my take on it and add some key points.

How to Transition to Touch in the Middle of a Seduction

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It's ideal to introduce touch very early in a seduction. And if you don't right away, you need to do so eventually. These tips will help you transition smoothly.

Let’s say you are at a social event, and you are hitting it off with a girl. She’s laughing at all your jokes, touching your arm now and then, and staying with you as the night goes on. Everything is going great; she’s giving you all the signs she likes you and is following your lead. But under the surface, you can sense she is still a bit cautious. You know you are meant to shift the level of intimacy forward but aren’t quite sure how to change the tone without her backing off.

So how can you make sure she likes you and set down the foundations for physical contact without scaring her away?

Turning things physical is foundationally one of the most critical areas in seduction because it is the “execution” phase of a seduction. In theory, a seduction can look good, but as you execute your actions, the reality may not match your intuition. The difficulty in changing how much you are touching each other comes from the dual nature of physical contact; it can be alarming and make a girl feel threatened, or it can be soothing and make her feel like she is where she wants to be.

The reasons for this dual nature are complicated. I will help you navigate them better, because if you can improve your transitions into physical intimacy, it will improve every aspect of your interactions with women.

Set a Sexual Frame by Blaming Women for Being Freaks

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By: Alek Rolstad

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To get a girl in bed quickly, it’s vital to set a sexual frame early. These one-liners are designed to do just that, by blaming women for being sex-crazed maniacs.

Hey guys. I hope you are doing well.

Today I will share some basic one-liners that can help transition your interaction into sex talk, or at least help set a sexual frame with a girl. We all understand the value of sexualizing your interactions with women in terms of moving things toward sex.

Specifically, the benefits are:

  • You get her aroused

  • You give the interaction a sexual context, which makes her perceive you as a sexual guy

Remember, women tend to categorize men as either providers or lovers. The provider is just a good guy to keep around, providing resources like wealth, social status, social-climbing opportunities, and networking. Most of these guys get laid rarely, especially if they are lower-end providers. Higher-value providers can get laid often, but not as often as a lover. A lover is the guy women trade sex for sex with, and so he's most likely to get laid easily and quickly.

If you just want to get to the one-liners, jump to the section called “Blaming: Sexual Framing Technique.” Otherwise, if you'd like to gain a better understanding of the core principles involved, read on.

Pickup and Seduction Gambit: The Good Lover

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By: Alek Rolstad

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To get women in bed fast, adopt a lover’s frame. This gambit accomplishes that with sexual prizing and by displaying your deep understanding of women.

Hey guys, and welcome back.

Last week, we discussed the lover’s frame, what it was, and how it is created. The lover’s frame is different from the provider frame, which involves impressing women with mostly economic resources. Sometimes it gets men laid as a reward for providing for women, but usually, all they may get is a bit of female affection, similar to the friendzone. In best-case scenarios, these men will VERY occasionally get lucky, get laid accidentally, or end up in a relationship, often with a subprime girl, or sometimes with the girl of their dreams.

Back in the day, those relationships likely resulted in marriage, and because of sociocultural factors, those marriages would remain stable. But with today's sexual liberation, this is not the case. Being a provider today is much less likely to be a fruitful mating strategy.

All you do as a provider is pay and provide for little, if anything, in return.

You have a choice: to get political and try to change society, or play the game and calibrate according to the current rules. The latter is the strategy I favor, and sadly, many men hate me for it.

The lover frame allows you to:

  • Get laid like a rockstar if that’s what you want, and enjoy a deeper form of erotic connection with a woman who will respect you as a man, not as a result of your wealth

  • Have better sex, and more quickly

  • Experience less frustration in the seduction process

  • Move from banging like a rockstar to building a relationship with the right girl; you’ll have a relationship that builds upon a sexual connection (and from there, a REAL emotional connection)

So, a win-win more or less.

There are two main effects of a strong lover frame:

  1. You generate desire as a man who can create strong emotional connections. Any gambits that display sexual prizing can work here. Some examples of gambits that accomplish this include the eight types of orgasm gambit, the orgasm control gambit, the tantra gambit, and the therapist gambit.)

  2. You make her feel allowed to act upon her desires. You want to be a man she can allow herself to be sexual with, both socially, but also emotionally (she feels you are the right guy, and you don’t judge her). Low-keyness also helps. Notable gambits here are any that communicate sexual liberalism: the period paradox, the mirror, to name a couple.

Now, what if we can use this knowledge of the lover frame as a gambit itself? This is where it gets interesting.