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If You Don't Sleep with a Girl, Someone Else Will

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someone will sleep with herSometimes guys get girls horny… then DON’T sleep with them. When you ditch a girl you’ve aroused though, either she’ll be frustrated – or she’ll get with someone else.

I’ve made this point again and again over the years, but I think it bears repeating as many times as possible.

If you’re going to get a girl all horny then NOT sleep with her, some other guy WILL.

A guy on Reddit posts the following tale:

So I've gotten to know this one girl from my school in the last couple of months. She has always seemed interested in me, but no one had really ever made a big move. Last week we were at a party and things went really well. We ended up dancing and kissing for the better part of the night, and were just about to sleep together but couldn't find an empty room. We ended up talking on a sofa for some time before she went to sleep... or so she told me.

After this event she has been quite cold and distant, not at all showing signs of attraction or interest anymore. A friend of hers also later told me that she had slept with another guy later that night after we couldn't find an empty room.

This hurt quite a bit. By no means do I expect any exclusivity, we have just gotten to know each other, but after complimenting me all night and having so much fun together, to just immediately throw it away and sleep with someone else... I truly felt like she, just as myself, was really enjoying our time together.

What are your thoughts on this? Would you give her a chance, should she show signs of interest later on? Am I overreacting and letting my emotions get the best of me, or would you consider it disrespectful and not deal with that type of behavior?

Cheers!

This kind of thing is actually pretty common: if a girl is horny enough, if one guy spikes her buying temperature enough, but the first guy does not close, another guy with better instincts will step up to be “that guy” and give the girl what she needs.

It’s common enough that in seduction, once you’re relatively decent at picking up girls, you learn to put feelers out toward the end of the night for these poor girls who’ve had their buying temperatures spiked by other men, who were then ditched by the guy.

Usually the guy doesn’t think of it as “ditching.” He may sort of know he’s giving up a lay, but he’s hopeful he can just “come back to it later.” Kind of like saving your save game, right? Just hit “save” on the girl, walk away, then try again later once you’ve had a chance to think about how to beat the final boss.

Girls aren’t computer games, though. They are flesh-and-blood humans with wants and drives all their own. Most of the time they are not going to wait for you to figure out what to do.

If you get a girl all hot and bothered then CAN’T close, you should EXPECT that some other man WILL.

How Do You Deal with Woke Women?

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woke womanWoke women pushing radical political positions are a real boor. How do you sidestep these women’s inane politics without getting caught in their trap?

Commenting on my article about deconstruction in cinema as an anti-masculine phenomenon, reader Bee remarks:

I generally don't have issues finding women and still don't (I actually think this site is far more useful for general psychological frames and motivations in business, etc.) but the mentality from females is so offputting, I actually get up from the table and in your words, the "attraction window" is just gone.

There doesn't seem to be any charming, witty, or logical way to wake these women up to the toxic values and ideas seeping into their heads. Selfishness, entitlement, bigotry, etc.: these are not and have never been virtues.

As anyone here knows, an emasculated man is fun to women for about 5 seconds on their powertrip and then they despise you for being weak. It's a hell of a conundrum these ladies put themselves in (and brought us along for the ride) because woke women are EXTREMELY lonely, generally a good thing for having some fun with them, but not these women and their numbers are increasing.

At this point, my only success in breaking through is to be an ungodly asshole. For example, asking questions to the woke like: if lesbians use phallic sex toys on each other, are they actually lesbians or just bigots? You want to see a pissed off female? And maybe 1 in 10 (on a good day) laugh, but she's the one with a boyfriend and isn't looking (good for her).

I'd really like some discussion on this. These women are miserable, don't know why, and are becoming completely closed off, which is just bad on every level.

And again, I've always done reasonably well with women but this is affecting coworker nonsexual relationships and dealing with businesses in addition to just enjoying women's company.

The answer to “how do you deal with woke women” is actually already in another article I wrote recently, on reacting to female rudeness and faux pas: just be cool.

That’s easier said than done though, especially if she really knows how to aggravate you with inane political positions and self-righteous claptrap she’s absorbed from daft professors and loony online pundits.

So what do you do when some woman – maybe a girl you want to go out with, or maybe just one you’re forced to interact with in a school or work setting – launches into some officious diatribe about her pet political positions?

To Pull Girls You Must Be Better Than the Average Man

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pull girls seduction skillsAchieving consistent one-night stands requires game a cut above the ordinary. What do seduction skills like this look like, exactly?

I spoke with a student living in a tough area with a high male-to-female sex ratio. He has little problem picking up girls for one-night stands when he travels almost anywhere else in the world. However, on his home turf he struggles. He’s gone to bars a lot and manages to get girls attracted, and can get phone numbers, but it never leads to much.

While he takes care of his appearance and apparently has good fundamentals, when I dug into his conversation it was actually fairly basic. He mostly opened girls with a direct approach, then had ordinary, mostly superficial conversation. If he could find commonalities with a girl he’d talk to her about that. Otherwise, it’d mostly be surface level. While he could isolate girls away from their friends in nightlife venues, they’d never agree to go back to his place with him.

The problem he appeared to be running into was that while the girls he approached were attracted to him, they weren’t attracted enough that they’d be willing to go home with him the night they met.

So, what’s the bit that was missing?

As I said to him on the call, if they met a super good-looking, extremely verbally skilled, funny, highly interesting guy who knew how to turn them on, he’d probably be able to pull them, right? So the question is, “What is the difference between where I am and where that guy is, and what do I need to do to get there?”

What we’re really talking about is having better than average attractiveness to women as a one-night stand option – and we’re talking about the full set of things men do that attract women for that, including their game.

Tactics Tuesdays: Bait Then Subvert

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bait then subvertWant a simple way to hook women in? Bait them with something that sounds juicy or provocative… then subvert their expectations.

Hey guys and welcome back.

Today we will discuss hook techniques that will immerse her deeper into the interaction and serve as a transition into any topic.

Curiosity leads to immersion. When she’s immersed, transitions are easier because she’s hooked in. Immersion generates compliance—she will listen to what you say.

Because of the “hooking” nature of these gambits, they work exceptionally well for early game when you don’t yet have a hook and have time for fancier transitions. In these settings, baits can be a shortcut to deliver a transition quickly.

Also, generating curiosity early solidifies your hook post-opening. You stimulate, intrigue, and immerse her. It helps you proceed smoothly.

Of course, you can use baits anytime during the interaction. It keeps the interaction fun and fresh. However, you get the most bang for your buck by adding them early.

Getting Started Quick with Charisma: Beginner's Guide

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charisma beginnersCAPTION

When you have charisma, everything you do socially gets (a lot) easier.

  • People like you more, respect you, listen to you, defer to you, want to get to know you

  • Girls want to go out with you, want to keep going out with you, and go to bed with you

  • Men want to roll you into their networks and introduce their friends to you

  • Hiring managers want to put you into all kinds of different jobs

It’s like everything you touch starts turning to gold. Everything interpersonal becomes so much more streamlined.

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The HARD, however, is taking those first steps toward being charismatic.

When you’re not charismatic yet, it may feel like charismatic individuals exist a world away from you.

So, in this article, we’ll discuss how to start diving in to the world of oozing personal magnetism.

Sex Talk Calibration, Pt. 1: Context for Sex Talk

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sex talk contextSex talk’s a mighty tool for arousing girls in-field. Nevertheless, get the context wrong and it flops. The context MUST be right for sex talk’s success.

Hey guys and welcome back.

Today and next week, we will discuss transitioning into sex talk. As you know, sex talk helps with many areas:

  • Stimulates her
  • Sets a sexual frame
  • Conveys attractive personality traits like sexual knowledge and experience (sexual prizing)
  • Diffuses resistance with your set
  • Generates sexual comfort
  • Escalates the vibe

The way we talk about sex is to discuss a sexual subject, whether it is a sociological, philosophical, or social-psychological subject linked to sex. It’s not “I want to do this and that to you,” as this would ruin your frame and trigger premature resistance (if not rejections), but instead, we talk about sex as any other interesting subject: you debate and discuss it and share knowledge.

The frame is “this is what I believe, what I know, this is my experience, and it is fascinating. I enjoy discussing this amazing subject with cool people.”

Thus, the overall frame is, “I could make you experience all these things if you are the right girl for me, but I am not saying I necessarily will.” Notice the modality difference between “will/want to do” vs. “may/could do.” For more details, read this post: Sleazy Sex Talk vs. Sexy Sex Talk: What’s the Difference?.

You may also check out this post: Showing Intent Without Showing Your Intentions.

What’s the most challenging aspect with talking about sex? According to my students and me, it is not talking about the topic but getting to where it is comfortable enough to bring up the subject: transitioning into it.

Women find sex topics interesting and stimulating, but it can be tricky to steer the conversation in this direction. Women find discussing sex one of the most intriguing subjects out there.

The problem is that sex talk, even when done correctly, can potentially trigger resistance.

We will discuss resistance to sex talk and how to avoid it through calibration. We’ll cover sex talk calibration, emphasizing transitioning, usually the shakiest phase to maneuver. Once you get comfortable talking about sex, things get much easier, although you may still need some additional focus on calibration.

For those wondering how you transition into sex talk, do not worry. I will share a few words about it and link to posts covering different techniques at the end of this article.

How to Get Girls You're Sleeping with to Want You as a Boyfriend

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how to get a girl to want you as a boyfriendSometimes girls sleep with guys they don’t want to date. Here’s how to get a girl to want you as a boyfriend even if she doesn’t think she does (at first).

Most guys struggle to get together with the girls they really want.

Girls slow game them, won’t put out, or turn flakey or start ghosting. They evade the guy’s attempts to take things intimate, and may never go to bed with him.

However, for these guys struggling to bed girls, there’s generally one upside: the girls they do bed tend to be “theirs to lose” when it comes to a relationship. Once she goes to bed with them, she sticks around, tries to make it work, and does her best to push for something serious.

But there’s another class of men where things are the complete opposite.

For these men, getting women into bed is no issue; keeping them around, however, surely is.

Girls might stick around for a bit in short-term relationships. Yet they never stay for something serious.

How do you get girls you’re sleeping with to want you as a boyfriend if you’re this type of guy?

Well, there’re two different reasons this happens to men – once you identify which of the two is causing girls to not want you as a boyfriend, you’ll be well on your way to changing their minds about you.

Tactics Tuesdays: Pre-Approach Screening

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pre-approach screeningWhich girls to approach? Before you walk up, screen the girl & situation. You can learn a lot in advance… including whether she’s worth going up to or not.

One of the reasons guys psyche themselves out so much with approaching is trying to figure out in advance how an approach is going to go.

Well, you’re not going to know in advance how an approach is going to go. But you can try to form a rough general idea about what you’re signing up for before you approach a girl, to ready your game (and perhaps steel your resolve).

This is the ‘pre-approach screening’ you do: before you even walk up to a girl, you try to form a measure of who she is, what she’s about, what she’s likely to respond to, and what kind of reaction you can expect to your approach.

Every guy does this automatically to some extent. However, less experienced men are a lot vaguer in their pre-approach screening and are much less adept at reading women accurately.

So let’s arm you with a few simple tools you can use to get a measure of a girl before you make the approach. This will help you decide how to approach her… and even if she’s someone worth approaching in the first place.

Reacting to Female Rudeness and Faux Pas

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TEXTWhen girls commit faux pas or act rude, you may be tempted to tell them off. This is not what to do… if your plan is to bed them or date them, that is.

We had a report on the forum recently where a newer member had a girl show up blacked out drunk to a date. The girl made some basic conversation, then got up to use the bathroom. When she came out, she was on the phone with a friend and immediately left the venue without speaking to our forum member, making her way to a cab.

The (sober) forum member took offense at this very drunk girl ditching him, and ran after her to give her a piece of his mind. He stopped this obliterated drunk girl, chewed her out for her rudeness, then left. She got in her cab and departed, and blocked him shortly after.

The girl when he’d approached her had been (as he describes her) “gorgeous”, behaving very shy (looking down repeatedly when they made eye contact), and blushed when he complimented her on approach. Over text they’d gelled well. But she also obviously had a drinking problem. I don’t think it’d be reaching to guess this shy girl may well have drunk too much trying to take the nerves off before their date.

Was chasing down a hammered drunk girl with little idea where she was or what she was doing, who otherwise seemed into him a lot, to scold her for her drunken behavior the right move for this forum member to make?

It’s a good question to ask. What is the right call in confusing situations like this?

As you interact with women, you will encounter situations where women behave rude or commit faux pas (and not always because they’re drunk!).

The way you handle these will determine not just your outcome with girls, but the way other people regard you as a man… and the way you regard yourself.

Tactics Tuesdays: The "Prove It" Frame Buster

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TEXTYou’re talking to a girl and she says “I’m boring” or “I don’t date.” That’s the kiss of death, right? Well, not so long as you can get her to PROVE IT!

When you talk to a girl and she starts throwing out claims about herself, these can seem like real obstacles if they don’t cooperate with the overall seduction.

Anti-seductive claims include women saying things like:

  • “I’m boring”
  • “I’m not adventurous”
  • “I’m not spontaneous”
  • “I don’t like excitement”
  • “I don’t think about sex”
  • “I don’t really date”

… and so on. Running into these can feel like a conversation death sentence if you don’t have a good response to reframe with.

After all, what hope is there really for a boring girl… a girl who doesn’t like excitement… a girl who doesn’t think about sex or go out on dates? None, right?

Au contraire, for in this article I’ll give you a simple little tactic you can use to turn these claims women make right on their head.

With this in-hand, instead of looking at women’s anti-seductive claims as if they are agile seduction killers, you will start to view women’s claims as clumsy fumbles that have led them right into your web.