(2) Intermediate

Sex talk isn’t the only way Alek Rolstad seduces girls. Discover his full repertoire for picking up women without using his famed weapon of mass seduction.

Hey guys. I hope you are all doing great.

I was chatting with Chase the other day, discussing future articles. I share article ideas with Chase (he is better suited to tackle some topics since they are within his field of expertise) and other topics I may have more to say about.

And this is great because I am often unaware of what subjects might be interesting, and others can point out areas to discuss that I might not think of.

Here’s what Chase suggested:

It might be interesting to see “Alek’s game if sex talk doesn't take.” If a girl is highly resistant or immune to sex talk, what do you do? Just bail? Run a different type of game? If sex talk doesn't work with her, does that mean she'll be closed to sex with you, or do you need to run things with her differently?

It’s a fascinating subject because, after all these years, people know me as “the sex talk guy,” and rightfully so. I do not mind being known as this guy.

Clearly, after 15 years in this game (this summer, it will be my tenth year at Girls Chase—I started writing after being active in this field for five years), I know a bit more than sex talk. Sure, I have perfected this technique since I am undoubtedly one of the inventors. I did not invent using sexual frames, though; many great seducers have inspired me. They’ve used techniques that helped me build my methods, so my repertoire is vast.

And, if I were to use sex talk in all my interactions and outings, I would be bored to death with seduction. I use sex talk less these days, to the detriment of my success, since I consider it a weapon of mass seduction, a super powerful tool with a high hit rate. In my eyes, it is still my best weapon. But I refrain from using it more often than not because, after all these years, I am a bit bored of it. I want seduction to feel fresh and exciting. The truth is, there is a lot of great and exciting material out there.

Some material is good, some amazing, and some as powerful as my own “sex talk,” even though it will always give me superior results because I’ve mastered sex talk at its highest level.

I like to focus on different material because, to my surprise, I can use other material in combination with sex talk. Imagine adding some push and pull—showing mixed signals between sex talk gambits! It can help you “set the scene” or create the ideal setting for a smooth sex talk game (isolation, a great hook, a good social frame, and high comfort levels).

Ironically, I have become increasingly curious about material other than my own after all these years. The irony lies that I should have been curious and open-minded during my early days, not now. I would have gained far more from it back then! But I was too obsessed with sexual frames then, and the desire to create my individual style, so that I would shed away tons of great material would have worked better in many settings than my sex talk, for example, in loud clubs.

From the two previous posts discussing my earlier and recent inspirations, you can likely tell I possess a massive repertoire. Sometimes I like to switch back and forth between various methods. Some are better suited for specific settings (loud clubs, small clubs, big clubs) and others for certain dynamics (all interactions are different, and some benefit more from different approaches).

Some nights, I attempted to get girls by using pure Mystery Method, demonstrating social value and following the M3 model. (If you are not familiar with the Mystery Method, familiarize yourself with it!) However, this was more for giggles, but I made it work. For fun, I have tried using the good old-school Speed Seduction style, also for giggles, and I made this work, too.

However, I use certain styles in combination with my typical sex talk style, and I will describe those below.

Not every girl you’ll meet is a lone wolf. Many come with female friends alongside them! How do you handle these friends so you still get your girl?

You’ve approached a girl solo, or perhaps with a wingman. Either way, the girl you want has a friend. Perhaps a couple of friends. The friends are girls too.

Should you game them?

Ignore them?

Just be polite with them?

How much should you touch them, talk to them, or potentially flirt with them?

The way you handle girls’ friends has ripple effects on your seduction of the girl herself, not to mention her friends’ willingness (or not) to let you ask her out or pull her.

When you talk to girls, talk about other girls. It lets you set sexual frames, communicate popularity with women, and inspire girls to chase you.

Here’s a “golden oldie” of seduction community wisdom:

When talking with girls, talk about other girls.

I first encountered this advice in the first seduction manual I ever read, Swinggcat’s book Real World Seduction. In it, Swinggcat recommended telling girls stories that had other girls in them.

It didn’t take long before I heard this same tactic from other seduction community legends. One advocated talking about “my friend blah blah” and then referring to your friend as “she” and “her” – and if a girl asks, “Is she your girlfriend?” you know you have her hooked.

Another talked about how telling stories about other girls you know or knew allowed women to feel more comfortable around you, showing them you’re not some guy women avoid, while allowing you to show the girls you’re talking to that you have girls just like them in your life already (excellent for attainability).

I don’t see this advice so much anymore, so I figured I’d do a little write up on it specifically, just to get it out there again.

Drugs are becoming increasingly popular in today’s nightlife scene. But if you’re on the prowl to pick up girls, are drugs a help – or a hindrance?

Hey guys. I hope you are all doing well.

Today I want to discuss a sensitive topic: drugs and seduction. William Gupta, one of our writers, addressed this topic a while back The Truth About Taking Drugs and Hooking Up with Women. I decided to give my take.

Why this post? I am a night gamer, and it is no secret that the nightlife has more drug consumption than elsewhere else. However, be aware that high drug consumption does not define all venues. This past weekend, I went to a club filled with students. Drug consumption was low. Compare this to a music venue (house music clubs and raves are known for high consumptions of MDMA and Ecstasy) or a high-end club (cocaine), and you will notice they are worlds apart.

Honestly, I prefer venues where drug consumption is low. It is easier to run game. MDMA makes everyone behave weirdly, and running good game becomes challenging. Cocaine turns people into loud jerks: girls are bitchier; men are loud and annoying. Drug consumption is a huge problem in my book.

I felt the need to write this post because I’ve noticed that the threshold to try out and take drugs is lower these days. When I started out clubbing around 2010, you seldom saw much drug use in clubs, and if it took place, it wasn’t that visible.

I have noticed that drug use has normalized in the last few years. Seeing lines of cocaine is usual. Lines of 3mmc (a cheaper substitute to cocaine) is not out of the ordinary, and MDMA use at a venue with great music? Well, obviously, you must do that! Who can have fun without it?

I can’t go to ANY venues without girls and guys asking me if I have any or know anyone selling. I know club owners who are frustrated with all the drug sales and usage in clubs. They get in serious trouble if the authorities find out that their venue is a junkie fest or if anything bad happens due to drugs, including rape, overdose, and even death—the latter happened in Paris clubs a few years ago.

I’ve been clubbing for a while and have tried different drugs. I will only talk about drugs common in clubs and those I’ve tried.

I will discuss my experience with them in the context of seduction. However, I will not discuss the following:

• The dangers of drugs; they are well known. Most are illegal and made in shady labs. You do not know about composition and manufacture. Being a questionable business, they often cut the drugs with dangerous stuff.

• The illegality of drugs: you commit a legal risk by carrying, offering, and taking drugs. I will not discuss this element.

• The cost of drugs. Yes, they are expensive.

• Getting busted taking drugs in a venue. Bouncers will kick you out (rightfully so), and you will be banned from the venue.

These factors are real. You should consider each in your assessment.

• I will also not discuss alcohol and pick up as I have covered this in a two-part series.

When discussing these drugs, I do so objectively given my experience and avoid moralizing, or at least I’ll try. I think all drugs circulating in clubs lately are annoying and kill the party. At the end of the day, it is your body and your choice.

Here are my experiences with each drug.

Another way to get intimate with women. Rather than just feeling them up and undressing them, you can prompt them to verbalize desire for you instead.

In my article on pussy-centric escalation, a commenter asked me for examples of getting verbal, logical buy-in to your escalation to intimacy. I recommended this for any girl who seemed like she was either on the fence or could cause trouble (e.g., an orange flag girl, etc.).

So let’s talk verbal buy-in during your sex escalations!

Verbal buy-in is anything you are doing to get a girl to affirm that yes, she really wants this next step in the seduction to occur.

You’ve no doubt heard of the social justice / feminist / egalitarian concept of “affirmative consent”, yes? You might’ve thought it a terrible, seduction-killing concept. But believe it or not going for verbal buy-in as you seduce is basically just this: it is the same concept as “affirmative consent”, just gussied up and made sexier.

I’m going to show you how to do this today, and add another powerful tool to your sexual escalation arsenal.

Early in a relationship, many women will try to dictate what that relationship will be. How you respond to these “frame dictations” determines everything.

There’s a newsletter I recently sent out to the Girls Chase Newsletter list on women’s early frame announcements (EFAs). If you’re unfamiliar with EFAs, these are women’s demonstrations to you, either before sex or not long after it, regarding what they’re looking for with you.

A girl might be looking for something casual. She might be looking for something serious. She might not know what she’s looking for. Either way she is usually going to convey her position or lack of one to you in an early frame announcement. You will see it – if you’re paying attention, and know what to look for.

While I was writing the newsletter on EFAs, I briefly inserted my own opinions on which ones I preferred versus disliked, before removing them. A newsletter doesn’t need my opinions; it’s more useful without, just giving the facts, so you can decide what suits your own agenda.

However, in that moment when I wrote my own personal preferences (before removing them), I realized the EFAs I disliked all had something in common, and the EFAs I liked had something in common too: the ones I dislike are the ones where the woman attempts to dictate the terms of the relationship, whereas the ones I like are the ones where she leaves it more up to you.

I thought it might be fun to have a little look at these differences, between women attempting to dictate the frame, versus when they declare themselves more open to you setting it.