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New to Day Game? You NEED to Do Night Game or Social Circle Too!

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day game social skillsMany day game novices make mistakenly focus JUST on day game… without raising their general social skills up too. This is a big no-no for day game success!

Hey guys.

This post is for struggling beginners.

I have written many posts defending nightgame. Online and day game has become the most popular forms of seduction lately. I understand why online game has become so widespread. It seems easy, and if you struggle with approach anxiety, sitting at home swiping left and right removes some of the scariness of seduction.

You may have this perception that if you swipe through massive numbers of hot girls, one will eventually like you, and getting a date will be a piece of cake, and it will be an easy deal moving forward. But we know it’s not quite that simple for most.

The problem is that dating apps primarily include men. Recently, I did an experiment on the Bumble dating app. I set my profile so that I was interested in both men and women.

Guess what happened? When I was ready to swipe, all I saw were guys, with a ratio of probably 90% men. It blew my mind! After a few hours, I had 53 likes. Next, I deselected that I was interested in men, and I only had three likes!

Those men are most likely bi or gay. They are a minority of men. And despite that, they made up 90% of my suggestions when I was about to swipe! So, imagine what it is like for straight guys, the majority. So finding women online is not ideal.

But what about day game? It’s a legitimate form of game. Yes, I’ve had my fair share of daygame outings. It offers many benefits, like allowing you to pick up girls without having many distractions. You don’t have to deal with the noise and the chaos so common in night game, also appealing.

You often interact one-on-one from the start—the meta in day game, going for single girls, not groups. It allows you to quickly build rapport and connect without distractions, with the intimacy of a one-on-one interaction, without interruptions from her friends. You won’t have to isolate your girl from her group, which can be probelmatic. And you don’t screw up your sleeping rhythm.

So, these are all good reasons, right? Just stick to day game.

Should You Tell Girls Stories You Made Up?

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tell tall talesTell true stories or tell tall tales – which one should you choose? We talk about crafting fictional stories vs. sharing authentic ones with women you like.

On an article where I talked about having to write a report where I talked about what I learned reading a book by a Zulu witchdoctor for a high school essay, a reader asked if I was just making things up and says he used to do the same, thinking he had to “be like Chase, making things up” but it didn’t work with girls so he stopped:

Chase, I swear you're making up your backstories. you always have GC stories that go like this "When I was in high school, I had an assignment to write an essay about a foreign culture." Honestly, I really don't care. But I'd like to know if you "exaggerate" stories about your past like this when you talk to women? when I was a newb and reading GC, learning about storytelling here I made the mistake of thinking I had to make up stories like you. It never worked, now I just don't do it.

Every time I read a comment like this, I realize just how far apart some of the readers and I are (not saying you, fellow who is reading this right now… but, some are). It’s like we are in two different worlds, speaking mutually unintelligible languages, and the experience of life itself is for the both of us just diametrically different.

First off, the logic of our commenter here is… well I don’t think I could call this logic:

  1. Our reader assumes (presumably because he cannot relate to what I’m saying) that I must be making stuff up or exaggerating.

  1. He then assumes he should ALSO make stuff up or exaggerate (even though everything I can ever recall having written about stories states that your stories should be true! And I do not say to exaggerate!).

  1. It doesn’t work out when he makes stuff up and exaggerates, so he quits it.

  1. Then he wonders why if making stuff up and exaggerating doesn’t work Chase would be out there making stuff up or exaggerating.

So he ignores what I tell people to do, draws separate conclusions totally on his own, tests out his self-drawn conclusions, they fail, then he concludes I must be doing something wrong. Because when he ignored me and did his own thing it didn’t work.

This is the kind of stuff that makes me want to quit self-help altogether sometimes.

Second off… well I guess I should be flattered my stories strike people as incredible. It’s like being a character in one of those stories where the protagonist thinks the guy is telling a bunch of tall tales, only to find out it’s actually all true, and actually even wilder than the protagonist suspects due to all the other stuff he DOESN’T know.

(maybe I should start prefacing my stories the way early 20th Century sci-fi and weird tales fiction used to be prefaced… “This may strike you as rather unbelievable, and indeed, had it happened to anyone other than myself, I, too, would have dismissed it out-of-hand… but for the reader willing to entertain remarkable suggestions of blah blah blah”)

So… I could address the “how to properly learn” element of this. The core message would be: “Until you know what you are doing, don’t draw your own conclusions from the air then go test those out while mentally ascribing them to some instructor who never told you to do anything remotely like that. Instead just do what the guy says. Then once you are getting results, if you want to try wacky creative things, go try wacky creative things.”

But I feel like I’ve already done that article… oh about a half dozen times already.

On the other hand, there’s an interesting question in here (aside from the one about my credibility): should you ever make up stories to tell women, and if so, when and why?

How to Isolate a Girl in a Seduction, Pt. 5: Step-by-Step

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isolate a girl: wrap upA step-by-step guide to isolating women in a seduction. Follow these key steps and make getting girls alone with you wherever you are straightforward.

Hey guys. Welcome back.

I recently shared four comprehensive posts that delve into various methods and dimensions of isolating your girl.

Today I am providing instructions for isolation techniques with a cheat sheet summarizing everything I’ve discussed about isolation, putting it all in context, and covering all the steps. I will not go into depth here, as I’ve discussed technique details already. If you haven’t read my past posts on isolation, look at the techniques here, choose what you want to work on, and read the linked post below that covers it fully.

How to Isolate a Girl in a Seduction, Pt. 1: Basics

I will not share every pointer covered in my past posts today. I will mention the most efficient, useful, and crucial ones.

If it is your first time hearing about isolation, you’ve come to the right place. Isolation is a crucial technique (some would even say it is THE most essential aspect of pickup and seduction next to frame control).

Isolation is the art of getting a girl alone. It’s especially relevant if you meet girls in groups (very common in social gatherings and night game). As a reminder, here are some benefits of isolation:

  • More intimacy – it’s only you and her. This creates more of a connecting vibe.

  • Fewer distractions – no interruptions mean that you can focus on her alone.

  • Less resistance when escalating – fewer people can see and judge her, making her feel more at ease letting go and escalating the vibe with you.

  • Quieter surroundings – isolation often involves taking her to a calmer area, facilitating verbal communication.

  • Moving her elsewhere – grants you bonus rapport points, as experiencing different spaces makes her feel like she knows you better.

But isolating her can sometimes be tricky, so we dedicated four posts to this, as it is such an important subject.

We discussed a lot of content in those four posts. It may seem like isolation is the hardest thing on earth to pull off. The truth is, if the girl likes you, isolation can be easy: “Hey, wanna go outside and grab a smoke?” Yes, it can be that simple. Sometimes, it is more challenging, and you may need to befriend her friends. By default, I always do so preventively!

Note: the steps may look overblown and advanced because I aim to give as much detail as possible to ensure success. However, this may be overwhelming: it may look overcomplicated, advanced, and too hard to pull off if you are a newer reader. Do not panic. I will provide a simpler setup later in this post.

Secrets to Getting Girls: Do What Feels Fun

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do what feels funInexperienced daters often give girls experiences that are hesitant, formulaic, & paint-by-the-numbers. In other words, not fun. But what IF they had FUN?

Here is a little secret with big effects:

Sitting with a girl trying to decide what to do next? Do what feels fun.

Talking with a girl in a park and wondering what comes next? Do something that feels fun.

On a date with a girl in a café and trying to plan the next step? Do what feels fun.

In my next article we’re going to talk about attraction models. Models are really important. The right gambits and tactics are important. But you also need to give yourself room to enjoy being with a girl.

To do that, you need to have fun.

[WATCH] Dating Is Not a Talent; It's a Skill

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Have you gotten stuck in the rut of treating dating like a roll of the dice? 🎲

Are you relying too much on “shooting your shot” with girls 🎯, hoping it will just work out… only to find yourself frustrated when once again the chips don’t fall your way?

Do you find yourself retreating onto dating apps, swiping over and over on girls’ profiles 📱, being disappointed with the number and quality of the matches you get?

Then it might be time to get serious about dating – and treat it not like a gamble, but like a skill.

Watch the video below to see if it’s time for you.

[WATCH] Lost Fantastic Fundamentals Episode + Hector Rejoins GC.TV!

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If you’ve been following along at GirlsChase.TV, you might recall we skipped Episode 17 of my Fantastic Fundamentals series, on attractive vocal intonation. The episode was completed, but for whatever reason (new website woes) would not upload. So we moved on, went ahead to Episode 18 on vocal distinctiveness, and made our way into the mid-twenties.

But now, Episode 17 is up (and it’s not a Premium video; it is FREE to view for all visitors).

Alongside Episode 17, we also have two (2) new Hector Castillo GirlsChase.TV exclusives – with a promise of more to come.

Go with a Girl and Her Friends or Not (When She Invites You To)?

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go with a girl and her friendsYou’ve met a girl, chatted her up, but now she and her friends want to head somewhere else. Should you go with her, or stay where you are?

Sometimes you will be out meeting girls, and a girl declares she’s leaving with her friends, but invites you to come along. Should you go with her?

I’ve taken girls up on these offers plenty of times. I’ve declined these offers from girls plenty more times. And the simplest answer to this question is, “It depends.”

What it depends on, and whether to go with her and those friends of hers or to decline, is the subject of today’s post.

Why (Most) Men Who Struggle with Girls Do

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why men struggle with girlsVictim mentality will paralyze a man with women. But why do men end up in it at all? What is the force that stops a man from going out to get what he wants?

For a long time, I’ve sought to understand the reason why so many men find themselves trapped in victim mentality, helpless to bring the things they want into their lives. If you could just find a way to reach such men you could enable them to attain results that will always remain out-of-reach for them so long as they remain apathetic. But often, you never can.

Even though I spent many years this way myself, I’ve never completely understood the cause. I had a safe, loving upbringing… I was never bullied that badly… I even had quite a few opportunities to hang with the cool guys or date the pretty, popular girls in junior high and high school… but I still ended up withdrawn, despairing, and hopeless. Why?

I’ve talked on Girls Chase before about the need for men to unplug from screens that inculcate them with these behaviors that train up helplessness. I’ve talked about media mind control and becoming an independent thinker. Yet I’ve heard from some men that even after they did these things, and totally unplugged, while it helped them improve somewhat, they still dealt with problems of apathy and inaction.

There must be something else that is causing so many modern men to struggle so mightily with women.

I’ve discovered what looks like it’s the missing piece of the puzzle – and believe it or not, it’s not anything men have done wrong themselves, or that women have done to them, or even that The System has consciously done… rather, it is a part of the civilization lifecycle, and it is very hard to resist.

Why Cold Approach Isn't for Social Beginners

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cold approach beginnersCold approaching women you don’t know is hard. If you lack the required social skills and mentality to make it work, you’ll burn out of it quick.

On the forum, we have a thread where a member posted to ask “what happens to guys who just don’t get results with women?

At first I thought he was one of those guys with thousands of approaches under his belt who was struggling to even get dates or lovers at all. We see guys like that sometimes. Usually they have some kind of social handicap, such as being somewhere on the autism spectrum.

But it turned out this member had a different problem: he’d made very, very few approaches to women. He said he’d only chatted up somewhere between “20-30 lifetime approaches”, and that after “getting blown out all day” he ended up “coming home in tears.” He hasn’t made a cold approach in three years.

If you’re new to cold approach world, 20-30 approaches is nothing. Every major contributor to Girls Chase has thousands of approaches under his belt… many of us have somewhere between 5,000 to 15,000 approaches. Alek Rolstad is famous for a 5-to-1 meet-to-lay ratio (i.e., sleeping with 1 out of every 5 girls you approach) under certain conditions. But that is only once you’re advanced, and only under proper conditions (i.e., high momentum).

Every guy goes through much worse ratios than that when starting out: 30-to-1, 50-to-1, 100-to-1, 200-to-1 or even worse… it depends where you’re starting out at and what’s already good vs. what needs patching up.

This forum member’s experiences took me back to my start in cold approach… one in many ways similar to his. And I think it’s worth making the point that if you’re a pure social beginner, cold approach is probably not where you should be starting out.

Tactics Tuesdays: Don't Be Pushy with Girls

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don't be pushy with girlsIt’s good to want to move things forward with girls. But if the way you do it is pushy, you will scare girls off. Here’s how to move ahead sans pushiness.

A while ago I saw a thread on Reddit and saved it for a future tactics article.

In it, a guy talks about having 50-100 women he’s met and tried to text out onto dates, but failed, saying girls ghost him every single time. He says it’s always the same scenario… he tries not to be pushy, saying this:

I really tried not to be pushy/move too quickly, but usually, in my experience, it is best to follow up quickly and set up a get-together quickly rather than waiting a week and being completely forgotten.

When someone says, “I really try not to X, BUT,” 99.9991896% of the time the problem he is having is X (whatever X may be).

When I opened this guy’s example text conversation up – yep, the problem is just as suspected; he is being pushy with girls.

Today’s article will be about how to not be that, so you can recognize if you are, and knock off doing it (so you quit scaring women away with pushiness).