Another technique to break past "no"s when girls give them. And not just break past them… but make it seem like you're the one who gave the "no"!Otherwise known as 'no busters'.
What do you do when you ask a girl to do something and she gives a firm 'no'?
Well, you can just give up and move on completely. And sometimes that's the right call.
What's the best way to pick up girls? Is it tactic A or tactic B? Is Method M superior to Methods S and C? Here's the true exposé on what works best and why.Wanna know one thing that will definitely never help you do better with girls?
Boasting about how your way to get girls is better than other guys' ways to get girls.
There was an old mASF discussion, back in '04 or '05, where the tired old, "What works better, indirect or direct?" debate got dredged up from the crypt and infused with new life.
I recall reading it in the archives.
Two of the participants were Style (Neil Strauss), the guy who wrote the best seller pick up artist book The Game, and Dimitri (Sebastian Drake), founder of the pick up artist training company theApproach, and a guy who served in a mentor role for me for many years.
Style's point was that you could not ever pick up a girl who was an "8 or better" with direct game. You could only use indirect for this.
Dimitri's point was that he had the most luck picking up girls who were "8s or better" with direct game.
I've never rolled with Style, but I spent a fair bit of time rolling with Dimitri, and I watched him pick up some of the most beautiful women I've witnessed any guy I've rolled with pick up, in the single fastest pickups I've seen guys I've rolled with pull off. A stunning young French stewardess he same-day laid off the beach right after we'd swum the Mediterranean (turned out we'd accidentally switched hotel keys, so he shagged her in my room and used my condoms. I had to call the cleaning service after, my room was so destroyed...). A pair of beautiful, flashy, and shapely Japanese girls we picked up off the street outside an L.A. club. Many others. All with direct openers.
I was a pure indirect guy at the beginning (more because I lacked the balls to go direct then, than that I didn't know how to do it). Dimitri urged me to try direct, so I did. And I found it worked very well for me.
I also found it worked better in some situations than in others. Some of the most beautiful, incredible girls I've been with I picked up I picked up with direct. Others of them I picked up with indirect.
I say all this to preface this post, which is not about direct vs. indirect, but instead something else: getting into stupid debates where you tell other guys that stuff they do that is working for them DOESN'T work is stupid.
Ask a girl to do something, and she'll think about it. Sometimes she decides for you; sometimes not. Yet if she's about to decide "not", you MAY be able to intercept that…In sales, you learn early on to make a proposal, then shut up and let the prospect decide.
"Whoever talks first loses," is the way my old boss and sales trainer taught me.
Well... talks first once you've proposed something and the prospect's deliberating, that is.
However, there's one exception to this rule, and that exception is this: when you can tell the prospect is talking himself out of it.
This is a bit of a nuanced thing to catch.
Therefore, this article is really only intended for intermediate and up students of the game. It'll be most useful for men who are already at least somewhat advanced with women, and will be able to attune to the signals we'll talk about here a lot more easily.
If you're a beginner, you can ignore this article for now and hew to "whoever talks first loses (after you've made a proposal)", and it'll server you well the majority of the time.
But if you're farther along than 'beginner', it's time to take a more nuanced view.
There are these stupid, clueless, needy questions men ask women. Perhaps you've asked some yourself. Yet these questions are pure sabotage for your seductions.This is really more for new guys than anyone else.
Though I have still sometimes seen intermediate guys making these mistakes too.
In school, you probably learned "There are no stupid questions."
Well, that might be true in school. However, in dating, it is not. Because when it comes to women, there are absolutely a lot of very stupid questions that you should not ask.
We're not talking about questions like "How old are you?" or "How many guys have you been with?" that various stern women claim men should "never ask a lady!" or that "don't matter!" on various feminist-leaning blogs or news sites around the web. Those questions are actually perfectly fine; I suggest you ask both regularly (the second works better after sex, though).
However, there exists a certain class of question that, when you ask from it, conveys a degree of neediness, uncertainty, and lack of leadership that repels women like oil does water.
These questions are the ones we can, for our purposes, safely dub stupid questions.
Just because you use boyfriend disqualifiers doesn't mean you're totally out of the running as a boyfriend. Many guys still act like boyfriends… yet don't even realize it.An issue I've noticed guys have over the years is they stumble upon Girls Chase, they read about not coming across as a boyfriend, and then they try to present themselves as 'not boyfriends' without actually changing their vibes.
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Typically what they do is they add certain things to their conversations that they've read will push them out of boyfriend contention.
But then they don't actually revise the rest of their conversation to take out boyfriend-y topics and remarks. And they don't change their presentation or delivery style any, so they still seem like boyfriend candidates -- except now they're candidates who also say some slightly un-boyfriend-y things.
So let's talk about things men do (without even realizing it) that make them come across as boyfriend candidates to the women they meet... even while these men think (in error) that they are "coming across like the ultimate lovers."
If nightclubs are open in your area, yet subject to social distancing restrictions, can you still meet women at them? Or are your nightlife prospects… LOCKED DOWN?
Hey guys.
Welcome back. This will likely be one of my last articles on COVID-19 for a while. I’ve shared all I know for now. Of course, if I make any mind-blowing discoveries or find something worth discussing, I will cover it for you.
Today I’ll discuss a topic I know many have been waiting for: clubbing during the pandemic.
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I apologize for bringing this up so late. I prioritized this series of articles since not everyone has been able to go clubbing because of differing levels of lockdowns and restrictions. I preferred to cover themes that a larger audience could resonate with first.
Also, I did not cover this earlier because I believe clubbing with social distancing outright sucks. So much so that even a night gamer like me tends to favor other game types for now.
Hopefully, we will open up to something closer to normal soon. If all we have to do is wash hands, wear a mask, and “be careful” (not impose social distancing) when entering clubs, I will reconsider. But for the time being, I do not see clubbing as a good way to meet women, even though I have had some success.
Where I live, clubs are closed. However, I went to visit my homeland during the summer, and clubs were open. I spent some nights out there with my fellow wing, Halvor Jannicke. The observations I share here are mine and his. So he deserves some credit.
But even Halvor, as a fellow night gamer, is not very motivated in clubbing lately.
To be clear, we are talking about clubs where social distancing is required, and your freedom to move around and mingle is limited:
You will be led to a table with your social circle.
You are not always allowed to go to the bar to order. You must do so when seated at your table.
You can usually only get up from your table to use the restroom.
Some places have smoking areas; others don’t. So you have to step outside the club to smoke.
Can you mingle? Some places are stricter than others, but generally, it is forbidden.
In other words, the club experience has become quite crappy. So as you can probably already see, there is not much you can do.
But there are a few things you can do, and that’s what I will cover here.
However, it is looking grim for nightlife so far. I will share my solutions, although I’ll admit, they are not that good, and you will still be limited. If you are looking for ways to meet women during the pandemic, read my recent articles. I cover better ways to live out your sex life during this crisis.
You'll see a lot of cute women on their ways to work in the morning. Have you ever tried to pick one of them up? Know how it's done?Recently a friend of mine arrived in a new city and went out for day game on a weekday afternoon. He felt disappointed to find few attractive women. Yet we talked about that, and I noted that most of the good-looking women are not walking around town during the day... most of them are at work (or they might be in their classes).
I suggested he try going out during evening rush hour, when all the women get out of work. This has long been one of my preferred times to day game. There are a lot of great advantages to it:
Women are out en masse from work, all crowded onto the streets at the same time. You have a high density of approachable women
Because they're coming from work, they're typically not in as much of a rush as if you meet them on their lunch breaks or on their morning commute
Having spilled out from work, some of them are happy to meet a sociable guy who isn't as ground-down by a day in the office as the people they've been around all day; others are high on endorphins themselves after their 'escape' and are feeling good and happy to meet anyone friendly
I personally very much like professional women, and a beautiful girl in her cute little business attire is extremely fetching to me. It's easy to get excited about women dressed this way in my opinion (she might dress sloppy off work, but she has to look nice on the job)
Today's article though isn't about evening rush hour, which in many ways is the easier of the two rush hours to approach during. I'll probably do an article on that as well.
Instead, this article's on morning rush hour -- a go-to guide for meeting girls on your way to work... or, if you are like me, a sometimes morning-rush-hour tourist.
What should you do when a woman hits you with a strong objection? Do you give up? Let her go? Or could you… address that objection, in a strong, smart way?Something a lot of guys are weak at is handling strong objections from women they like.
We can roughly break romantic objections down into several categories:
Token: otherwise known as 'weak protests'. You can typically ignore these altogether, or handle them any number of ways. These aren't serious protests, and she's more or less swayed to your way of seeing things already. You bring her close to kiss her, for instance, and she weakly protests, "But I'll get lipstick on you..."
Tentative: she might object; she isn't sure. She'll throw this objection out to see how you react. You're sneaking into somewhere off-limits with her, for example, and she whispers, "What if someone catches us?"
Standard: your run-of-the-mill objection. Not necessarily super hard, but not something you can always easily just brush aside either. Think "I don't go to guys' places on the first date" or "Shouldn't you date women closer to your own age?" There are already many guides on Girls Chase to dealing with standard objections (I'll link them up a little below). These aren't the subject of this post.
Strong: a firmly-held objection she's insistent on. You tell her, "Let's sit," and she says, "I told my friends I'd wait for them here." You invite her again and she just shakes her head and says, "I have to wait right here." You invite again and again she says, "I can't move from this spot, I promised I'd be here when they arrived." This kind of objection is our focus today.
Absolute: she walks away or blocks you. Absolutely nothing you can do when she can't hear you anymore!
Token you don't have to worry about, unless you're the most tentative beginner ever.
Tentative is easy to overcome with any kind of playful response or halfway conviction: "No one'll catch us, don't worry," or, "If anyone catches us I'll beat him up. Come on."
And absolute objections, well, nothing you can do there. You're not omnipotent. Can't talk to women who aren't around you and you have no way to contact. Women like this are just gone.
Standard and strong objections are the ones that trip a lot of guys up.
In today's article, we'll talk about handling strong.
Ever try to predict how good a place will be to meet girls by looking at a map or talking to people? If you have, you'll know how wrong you often get it. But… why?I like to regularly scout new spots. Keeps things fresh, and you don't know what you'll find -- either in the place, or in the woman situation (see: new spot bonus).
The other day I decided to work at a shopping mall in one of the university areas. I walked by the women's university, where school's just about to be back in session, with cars unloading female college students and their suitcases and belongings. Then I found the nearby mall and took a stroll through it.
And... I was surprised how few single women there were there.
There were lots of families. Lots of children. A few couples and trios of college girls. Next to none there alone. And of the women who were there, only a handful were very attractive.
The mall had multiple floors, but only two options to work at, a Starbucks on the first floor and a tea place on one of the upper floors. The tea place actually looked like the better bet as far as clientele, but I opted for the Starbucks to get a clearer idea about the mall's foot traffic.
In the several hours I spent there, I saw perhaps a handful of attractive women, solo, walk by. The rest were all couples, trios, and families. Most of the women I saw did not have attractive faces (if unmasked) and/or didn't have the best bodies.
Where were all the attractive solo girls?
There's a simple little way to get away with touching pretty much any part of a woman's body.
The rules are that she has to be into you enough to permit a touch there, and she has to be comfortable enough with you to enjoy a touch there -- and you also need to able to tell a story in an excited enough, confident enough way.
If your timing and calibration is correct, however, this tactic will let you get away with pretty much any kind of touch you can imagine (from fairly harmless stuff like looping her arm in yours or lacing her fingers with yours to the naughtiest kinds of touch you can imagine). It is one of the most innocuous ways to touch a girl you can imagine.
This simple tactic is that you will tell a story to a girl that involves the kind of touch you want to do on her -- and then you'll demonstrate that kind of touch right on her.
