Journeyman have been at it a while and have begun to develop major good habits and success streaks as practitioners of the social arts
If you want to get a girl to do what you want, it’s a lot easier if she thinks what you want is ‘what everyone is doing’ or ‘what the cool kids do’. That’s conformity framing.Women are herd creatures. Women, far more than men, feel driven to conform.
They say love is blind, and blindfolded Cupid with his fickle arrow shots makes it seem so. But what drives people’s often seemingly random pair-ups?The ancient Greek god of love, Cupid, is sometimes depicted as being blindfolded.
He flies about on a pair of wings to emblemize the flighty, fickle nature of lovers, and is a young boy to show the irrational nature of love.
Male simping is ridiculously counterproductive. It wastes the males time and gets him nowhere with girls. So how on Earth did this behavior evolve?For years the behavior of male simping has bewildered me.
A boyfriend disqualifier gets a girl to think of you as just a lover, not a boyfriend. When you use these, must you ‘go all the way’ in having her disqualify you – or not?Lately there’s been a fair bit of discussion on the Skilled Seducer Forum about how far you need to go in disqualifying yourself as a boyfriend. Guys report various problems when disqualifying themselves for the boyfriend role, and other guys are telling them not to go so far in doing so.
I have mixed thoughts about boyfriend disqualification. Obviously it's a core part of seduction that enables rapid escalation. Without it, it's an uphill battle getting out of the "potential boyfriend" category and putting yourself in the "lover" category.
At the same time, I feel like there are girls of this generation who will lose interest if you completely disqualify yourself - at least in my recent experience with young Gen Z girls. As we've discussed, hook-up culture is rapidly changing, social skills are deteriorating, and mainstream values are trending towards conservative.
I’m one of a few guys in seduction who still regularly talks about boyfriend disqualification. That is to say, who still regularly talks about communicating to a girl that you are ineligible for a boyfriend/husband/long-term role.
I think we’re due for some clarification though, because I see a lot of guys using this tactic wrong. So let’s talk boyfriend disqualifiers: just how hardcore do your boyfriend disqualifiers need to be?
Most men during breakups plead, rage, or act like rocks. None of these are ideal though. Instead, you want to seduce her on the way out – with the Nonplussed Romantic Breakup Attitude.Over the years I have seen a lot of men respond to breakups a lot of different ways:
Begging women to stay
Pledging they will change
Declaring “You need me!”
Asking to “Make it work”
Indignation (“Ungrateful!”)
Defiance (“Who needs you!”)
One thing I very, very rarely see is the man who is completely nonplussed…
The man who doesn’t beg, plead, pledge, ask, declare, or respond with indignation or defiance.
He neither belittles the woman nor prostrates himself before her.
Instead, he remains calm, understanding, gracious, yet without emotion – he still shows some sadness and care. Just not an outpouring of it. He handles the breakup with masculine aplomb.
Perhaps it is because this reaction is so rare, but this Nonplussed Romantic Breakup Attitude is the single biggest way to ensure that you remain stuck deep within a woman’s mind post-breakup, leading to positive feelings on her end, and a whole lot of chasing from her to get you back before you even expect it.
It is how you seduce her on your way out, just as you did on the way in.
There are two (2) very different kinds of high body count women: those who willingly pursue many lovers, versus those who fail into it.Discussions of women with high partner counts are often marred (especially in the dating advice space) between a conflict over the two (2) different kinds of high partner count women.
These two (VERY different) types of High Count women are:
Low sexual market value (SMV) women VS.
High testosterone (T) women
Depending on a man’s sexual experience and predilections, he may wish to reject both of these women – or he may want to reject one but not the other. Of course, if he does not realize the difference, he’ll have trouble differentiating.
If he tries talking to other men who are thinking of the other kind of high body count girl than the kind he’s thinking of, they’ll talk right past each other.
Let’s clear up these two very different kinds of multi-lover women.
Rather than pull a girl home as soon as she’s ready, you can delay the pull and tease her a bit. Why do this? Simple: to face less (or no) LMR at your place.This post by Bboy100 originally appeared on our forum here.
One good way to reduce the chances of running into LMR is to make a girl really want it. Tease her. And I don't just mean once you already have her isolated. I mean throughout the date(s) in general.
Take your time; enjoy her company.
Take your mind off fucking her, and just worry about having a good time.
If you adopt this mindset, what you'll notice if you're at least somewhat decent at reading her signals is that she'll eventually seem receptive to you making a move on her. That is, she'll want you to kiss her, isolate her or more.
Don't do this yet.
Just casually keep going on with the date.
If you can’t avoid a playboy reputation, do this: be the PROSOCIAL playboy. This archetype is deeply intriguing to women – it lets you move FAST with them, too.One of the early snags a lot of guys will run into once they start self-improving with girls is the “playboy problem.”
You get a little too slick, a little too easy with the conversation, and suddenly girls you’re talking to start telling you things like:
At first this is going to feel good. Girls are acknowledging how slick you are! But you soon realize it’s actually a sign of low attainability. The fact that she is commenting on your slickness means you are so slick it’s noticeable, and it’s making her feel like you are insincere.
To her, you’re just saying the same thing you’ve told dozens of other girls. She’s nothing special to you, she thinks, which makes her not feel good. While you do want girls to know you have options, you also want girls to feel they are special to you; sacrificing either one of these drubs attraction.
The typical advice here is to do things that defuse the playboy reputation and make you come across more sincere. Basically, to not seem like you are a player at all.
But there’s another route you can go, that you sometimes may be FORCED to go, if circumstances force you to accept that playboy reputation.
That is to accept, own it, and wrap yourself up as the PROSOCIAL playboy instead.
If a girl feels there’s no chemistry with you, if she says there’s no spark, is it fate? Not at all; it’s SKILL, because “spark creation” can be learned.Contents
Giving girls “outs” during a seduction is essential to maintaining comfort and buy-in. But what’s the nuance – and what when your gut says “don’t do it?”Hey guys and welcome back.
I have been discussing the importance of giving the girl you are interacting with some space. This means allowing her an exit route to increase her comfort level. By doing so, she feels more at ease, which can lead to her becoming more compliant and willing to follow your lead.
Last week, I discussed this concept and gave examples by applying it to different contexts, such as during the hooking, isolation, escalation, and extraction phases.
Today, I will sum up this theory and get more conceptual by refining it further. It is usually better to give your girl a chance to opt out. However, like anything within pickup and seduction, there are exceptions and details to consider. This does not mean there are no general rules to follow, but like any generalities, there are times you should deviate.
After all, seduction is a social science and, some would say, an art, and there is room for exceptions. This post will cover situations when the rule of giving her a chance to opt out does not apply and it is better to “lock her to you.”
But before I get into that, I’ll recap the theory of giving a girl space, providing more details. Then, I will discuss the scenarios in which this theory may not apply.
