Seduction

We’ve discussed why if the aim is to sleep with or even get into relationships with women, you’re normally better off cultivating the image of “great potential lover” rather than the image of “great potential boyfriend” that the majority of men compete on (or, even worse, “great potential friend”) a number of times here already.

If you’re just tuning in and could use a recap, these articles are the primary pieces on the subject:

• Telling Women You’re NOT Boyfriend Material

• The Early Boyfriend: Why It’s a Bad Idea

• How to Get Girls: The Last Post You’ll Ever Need

• Does She Want You as a Boyfriend... or Something Else?

What I want to discuss with you today is one of the key mentalities women have regarding men that you must take pains to steer clear of falling victim to: women’s “back pocket” mentality.

This is the habit of women to “collect” men and keep them in reserve – or, in their back pockets – until such time as they might need them.

It isn’t malicious. It’s not a conscious effort to be manipulative or use others (usually).

However, if you aren’t careful about it, you can let this tendency of women’s, coupled with the tendency most men have to “prove their salt as a boyfriend by making themselves totally available”, sabotage any chances you might’ve had with those women.

Note before we get started: this one’s more for intermediate and up guys who are running into this issue. For guys who are beginners, stick with treating your interactions with women more “mechanistically” and breaking them down into bite-sized pieces and goals you’re trying to accomplish and milestones you’re trying to pass – you’ll learn a lot faster that way. Think of this article as “switching to natural... once you’re already fairly good.”

A reader named Robert writes in:

“I have a question, hope you guys can answer it for me!

I have pretty solid game, can get girls, move things forwards etc.. etc...

Where I stumble is in my own experience of the whole interaction-  MY attraction to HER! Is it because I’m not going for hot enough girls? I’ll get super turned on when the situation is still unclear, and sex is not guaranteed. But then once I am pretty sure it’s gonna happen, I will lead her to it, but my arousal is wayyy less than earlier/before the interaction.

My thoughts are I should try to escalate as I feel the tension, in slow, somewhat intense and subtle ways... focusing more on the vibe and staying with it. Or perhaps convince myself that sex is not guaranteed yet? Or is this a sign that I am simply trying to pump my own ego, and the attraction isn’t real to begin with?”

Ah, yes. An all too common issue of the developing seducer: why does reaching the point where she’s ready to go to bed with you kill all your interest in the sex?

The instant it’s unequivocally clear that yes, she DOES want to go to bed with you, and WILL go to bed with you – POOF! All the crazy desire you had to go to bed with her up until that point just vanishes.

Where did it go, and why does this happen?

Ah, cougars. Still a category of woman that every man longs to experience at least once in his life. Every man has a different reason for why he would like to be with one, maybe it’s because their girlfriend had a hot mom when they were younger, perhaps it is due to the fact that they had a really attractive teacher growing up, but, one way or another, there is definitely a certain allure to having sex with an older woman.

Last week, I talked about the “7 Greatest Things About Cougars.” In case you didn’t know why cougars are so great and why so many men covet them, that post explains it. It also explains the potential pitfalls that you should avoid when dealing with cougars.

So now that we’ve started at the foundation — as we always should — let’s talk about how to go through the process of actually having sex with one. Accomplishing this feat can definitely produce a very satisfying feeling in the heart of a man.

Though I should say that it can actually be rather difficult to have sex with a cougar with whom you have a very large age gap through conventional means. And by conventional means I mean day game and night game. While it’s definitely possible (more so with night game), your results will almost always be markedly lower than if you were to approach and try to seduce girls of your own age range or younger.

But that’s not to say that it’s not possible by other means — because it certainly is. So let’s talk about the best methodology and process to go about getting yourself one of these spicy vixens.

We are born into a world that doesn’t expect much out of us. Just be average, fit in, blend with the crowd, and you will be all right. This is fine if you want to be an average Joe with an average Jane by his side living an average life, but it is not so fine if you want more than this.

Yet you may have a tough time breaking out of the “mold” these low expectations place you in. From an early age we are all trained to expect average things of ourselves. Lifting one’s sights to see what is truly achievable takes work.

Having low expectations placed on you sucks.

However, when you are a kid there is nothing you can do about it except “grow up”, so you end up agonizing on this desire to change during what should be one of the most care free periods of your life.

We get crammed into school systems, graded like we must perform a service adequately, and pushed into the social confines of routine. We are left to drift away into obscurity until we grow up, and at that point it seems too late to change anything. The system that supposedly is meant to make us match expectations instead lulls us away from the best ways to exceed them.

A tactic we’ve left off discussing much here previously is role-playing. It’s taught in the seduction community at large as an effective way for jazzing up your interactions with women, and I was exposed to it early on, with a wingman in 2006 who was a heavy user of the tactic.

My personal bone of contention with how it’s usually presented (and the reason I don’t typically talk about it) always was that so much of the role-playing I saw being taught – all of it, really – was routine-based; you had to memorize some specific form of role-play, and then remember to use that with women.

Too hard for a guy like me. Too annoying. Too stiff and unnatural. I’m supposed to memorize this big gambit and then find a way to squeeze it into conversation?

I watched my wing – otherwise a cool, likable, and sociable guy – squelch it into his conversations with women, and some women would play along but you could tell they were being sports about it, while other women would give him a skeptical look and proceed to have none of it. Routine-based role-playing was just awkward to try to make fit with a conversation that was anything short of perfect for that precise role-play.

Yet, over time I’ve found myself using role-playing more and more, naturally and without a routine, yet with several underlying themes that guide my role-playing and help me do it naturally and place it where appropriate into the conversations I find myself in with women.

This fluid form of “emergent role-playing” is what I want to talk about with you today – how you can use role-playing in a natural way, that isn’t pre-scripted, yet follows certain guidelines to help you do some cool things with your conversations.

If you want a shortcut for understanding women instead of ripping your hair out at the roots because women don’t make any sense, think about a woman this way: she wants to submit.

Men know this, of course. But most men are not thinking about it correctly, as evidenced by the various complaints by men about women’s behavior on my old article “When Women Test Men.”

See, most guys are thinking about things like men do, which is in a rational problem-solving type way.

They look about themselves and see lonely women. And they see themselves – also lonely. Well, why don’t women just submit to them? Then both of their problems would be solved! The man would have the woman, and the woman would have the man.

The fact that women don’t do this is, to them, proof that women’s reasoning is flawed.

I mean, ask a woman to explain this, and really nail her down on it, and she can’t.

There, see? Irrational. Doesn’t make sense.

But it does make sense when you realize she cannot submit completely willingly to a man; she is not programmed that way. Even if she rationally wanted to submit to you because you have such well-reasoned qualities and stats, she cannot.

Why not, you ask?

Because women do not want to and cannot submit fully willingly under their own power.

You must make them submit.

One of my good friends (who is in his mid-20s) has moved to almost exclusively dating cougars, which has earned him the wonderful epithet of “The Cougar Hunter”. He swears that dating these vixens is the only way to go if you want to experience a real woman.

I think somewhere in the psyches of all men is the desire to have a sexual encounter with a cougar. But why is this? Why do men see that older woman and wonder what secrets lay within her heart... and between her legs?

What is that special kernel that is just so alluring about the ever-intriguing cougar? This question is what I look to answer today, where we will be looking at the greatest things about being with these ferocious denizens.