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What to Do When Girls Run a Jealousy Plotline on You

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handling jealousy plotlinesSometimes you’ll approach girls, only to have them flirt with other guys and try to make you jealous. What do you do? Ignore it… or, pull out the BIG guns.

Hey guys and welcome back.

Last week we discussed handling congruence and compliance tests. We also covered “weird tests” when a girl puts you in tricky catch-22 situations. I went through the more common tests, although some tests are unique and require case studies like in this post.

Today I want to resume my discussion about tests. We will address a common but frustrating test called the jealousy plot test. This test occurs when the girl you are with talks to other guys in front of you, even when you have a good hook going.

I won’t waste time describing the situation. If you have been going out for a while, you likely have experienced it.

This situation is more common during night game and social circle gatherings.

The 4 Reasons Girls Test Guys They Like

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reasons girls test guysWhy do girls test guys? Tests can derail your courtship with a girl if you don’t respond well. Women test for 4 things; if you know what they are, you know how to pass.

Hi guys, and welcome back.

Today we will discuss handling tests. I won’t dive deep into the basics because we’ve covered that many times before.

Women will test you because they want to know if you are the real deal. It’s that simple.

If you want a refresher or more details, see:

When Women Test Men

Loving the Tests

Why Do Women Test? To Find Dominant Males

In this post, I’ll add more theoretical knowledge and provide a solid framework to help you understand tests. In upcoming posts, I’ll focus more on the practical details of handling tests.

PDA Pre-Relationship vs. Post-Consummation

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TEXTPDA can be lots of fun in relationships. When you use it with girls you haven’t bedded yet, though, it backfires. Why’s it so different pre- vs. post-sex?

Most folks have some kind of opinion on public displays of affection (PDA).

Some like indulging in them, some don’t. Although some can go either way.

If you’re inexperienced at picking up women, but you’ve had prior relationships with PDA, you may associate such displays with “doing really well with a girl.” You’ll be out somewhere with your girlfriend, start feeling each other all up, tonguing each other down heavily, and by the time you finally get each other alone somewhere the clothes just come flying off and the passion and intensity of the sex is phenomenal.

However, when you start cold approaching, or meeting women at parties, or anywhere else you encounter strange women, and you begin using PDA on them, you start running into a different phenomenon:

The passion explodes… a girl seems really, really into you… everything is unfolding exactly how it has with prior girlfriends of yours you’ve done PDA with… yet just as you’re assuming it’s a shoe-in, this girl’s about to be yours, she ups and leaves and you don’t get the girl.

What happened? How on Earth did you lose her?

She was so into it… why would she leave?

The answer is female state control – and it’s a phenomenon you won’t (usually) see in women you’ve already consummated a sexual relationship with… but absolutely will with girls prior to consummation.

How to Start Doing Day Game & Meet Girls by Day

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TEXTNew to day game? It may seem scary to begin. All those girls rushing around during day… And no natural, unawkward way to meet them! Fortunately, it’s easier to begin than it seems…

We’re just about to rerelease our killer day game course “Meet Girls Everywhere” (or MGE), with expert day game coach Hector Castillo. MGE’s an awesome training course you’re sure to love if you’re at all interested in meeting girls by day.

Today I figured I’d talk a little about first starting day game, because it’s one of the common hurdles guys new to day game face: “How do I begin doing day game?”

Going to parties or nightlife is one thing. You’ll have anxiety around approaching there, but pound back a few brewskis or get your wingman to cheer you on or pull you into one of his sets and before you know it you’re talking to girls.

Day game is different. There’s no social atmosphere there. Women aren’t standing around waiting for an approach. Many of them are busy, many are distracted, and few are expecting to talk to someone. It can feel ‘wrong’ striking up a conversation with a stranger… isn’t doing so intrusive? Aren’t you supposed to not talk to strangers? You’re supposed to go to special walled environments like bars to do that, not outside in the open air!

It's a little silly when you think about it, because for millions of years of hominid evolution, we sure didn’t have rules of “you cannot talk to women outside of walled edifices serving fermented hops.” For one, we didn’t have walls… For another, we also did not have barrels of fermented anything, let alone ice cubes and little umbrellas to stick in them.

Getting started with day game is thus a bit like becoming an evolutionary throwback… One leaves aside the polite rules and unspoken strictures of modern society, and becomes a little bit of a caveman roaming the streets 10,000 years into the future.

Choose Your Romantic Strategy: Alpha, Friend, or Outsider

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romantic strategiesFriend, high status male, or outsider: every man must choose one of three romantic strategies to follow. The choice he makes determines the game he runs and the girls he gets.

As I read the fascinating book The Mating Mind by Geoffrey Miller, I continue to have nice highlights and wonderful little insights.

(previous installment: “Males of Every Species Must Learn Game to Mate”)

My latest highlight comes from this passage by Miller, discussing scientific research into primate (including human) mate selection preferences:

Three kinds of female preference have been reported in primates: preferences for high-ranking males capable of protecting females and offspring from other males; preferences for male “friends” that have groomed the female a lot and have been kind to her offspring; and preferences for new males from outside the group, perhaps to avoid genetic inbreeding.

And it’s a good insight and lets us split up the three different types of men women go for and the different ways they get together with those men. We have of course:

  • High status “alpha male” type partners

  • Kindly “friend zone” type partners

  • Outsider “sigma male” type partners

Anyone advising any man on dating will have his preferences about which of these romantic strategies he recommends as the ideal path to follow… but it will always be one of these three.

Today I’d like to have a balanced look at the differences between these three kinds of men a woman will date.

Picking Up Girls In Meet Markets

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woman looking over her shoulder and smiling in nightclubMeet markets can seem like appealing places to head to to pick up girls. But how do you up your odds here without relying just on luck?

July was an amazing month in Paris. Tons of tourists merging with the Parisian local population generated an amazing nightlife.

After the COVID lockdowns, I am finally settled in this beautiful city and have access to great venues.

One is David Lynch’s club, Silencio, one of Europe’s, if not the world’s most exclusive and hard to get into places: amazing crowd, crazy hot girls, and good venue logistics. I’ve been there three times and pulled twice, which is a good score for any venue.

I frequent selective clubs, which usually have pickers selecting the crowd. I prefer these venues to the typical “meet markets” because they have a higher concentration of hot girls plus a good women-to-men ratio—very beneficial. They typically have better in-venue logistics than meet markets, which often consist of one big room, much noise, and chaos, although there are exceptions.

Males of Every Species Must Learn Game to Mate

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males must learn to mateMales of every animal species must practice and learn courtship rituals before they’re able to mate. The art of learning to court is a ubiquitous one – it is not human-only! Images created with Craiyon.

I’m reading a truly fascinating, mind-expanding book right now entitled The Mating Mind.

High-End Venues vs. Meet Markets

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high-end venues vs. meet marketsGoing out to meet women? The nightlife venue you choose has a big impact on your odds. Meet markets are good for lower level playboys, but at elite levels, selective is where it’s at.

Hey guys, welcome back. Today I’ll discuss night game.

As you know, venue selection is a crucial part of night game. Selecting the wrong venue (whether it’s not suited for you and your game or just a poor choice) will greatly affect your night and may determine whether your night is successful—or not.

I have written plenty on venue selection and calibration, so I will not repeat myself here.

Today I’ll compare the differences between selective clubs and typical “meet markets.” Which places are the best for pick up? I’ll go over the pros and cons of both types.

Many men dislike more selective places because they can be intimidating. Some men perceive that girls are harder to get there. Some of these girls tend to be more beautiful and seem more reserved. They do not seem to openly flirt or show a sexual vibe.

On the other hand, the typical meet markets tend to have a sexual vibe and girls may be more sexually open and willing to flirt. More importantly, the places are far less intimidating.

So, which places are the best? Most guys starting out in night game tend to favor typical meet markets. Beginners usually go to those venues—the same with intermediate guys. We will get to why that is shortly.

Elite night gamers tend to favor selective venues. There are some exceptions to the rule, but generally, the exceptions are good reasons for not sticking to the norm.

Strategic Calibration: Flexibility in Seduction

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strategic flexibility in seductionWhen the strategy you’re using with a woman doesn’t work, you can keep trying variations of it… or you can switch things up, & be “strategically flexible.”

Welcome back. In this series, we’ve previously discussed how to calibrate strategically. You can calibrate your technical choices depending on the situation. Many men who start getting good at this tend to apply the wrong technique to the wrong circumstance. They try to smash in a nail with a screwdriver: it works, but it requires extra work, and the results are not as good.

In our last article, we discussed understanding which technique to use and when.

Today’s post covers what to do when a technique does not work on a girl in certain situations. I came across this masterpiece by our own beloved Chase, who posted about this subject on the forums not long ago.

Instead of repeating everything Chase said, I decided to make this post a commentary on Chase’s original post while adding my contributions. All quotations are from Chase’s original post.

When Girls Try to Implicitly Reject You

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girl implicitly rejects youIf she implies she’s rejecting you, it isn’t always over. Follow this guide to know when to walk away… versus when to draw out her true objection & overcome it.

Not every rejection you get from a girl is explicit.

Many will be implicit.

Explicit rejections sound like this:

  • “I have a boyfriend.”
  • “I’m not dating right now.”
  • “Sorry, I’m not interested.”

Implicit rejections, though, sound like this:

  • “I don’t really live around here.”
  • “I think I’m a lot younger than you.”
  • “You’re not really the type I go for.”

Implicit rejections are a double-edged sword: they’re considerate, because they allow you to exit the conversation while saving some face… yet at the same time they deny you a clear objection to counter and can at times feel more like you’re bailing due to lack of skill or social pressure than due to rejection.

This article will be about when to push through implicit rejections and seek a true objection you can counter to improve your prospects with the girl, versus when to simply accept the implied rejection and walk away.