Barriers in seduction get the other party helping to move things along. Soft barriers are a special variety: they’re easy to pass to raise her investment.A couple years ago we discussed the powerful tactic of barriers in detail.
Foreplay often involves just the hands or mouth. But that’s no fun, especially with a resistant girl. Use THESE radical tactics to get your penis involved.When most men think of foreplay, they think of:
Using their hands on a woman’s body
Using their mouth on a woman’s body
Getting a woman to use her hands on them
Getting a woman to use her mouth on them
They might be touching her pussy with their mouth or hands. But NOT their penis.
That’s not foreplay. That’s the main event. Right?
SHE might be touching their penis with her mouth or hands. But NOT her pussy.
Again, that’s not foreplay. It’s the main thing. Right?
Yet, in fact, there are numerous ways you can engage in foreplay where you actively use your penis on a woman – not waiting for her to suck you off or stroke you – including on her pussy, without getting to vaginal penetration, before sex starts.
Today I’m going to introduce you to some. If you’ve never done these before, they might just change the sexual escalation game for you.
In part 2 of this series on baits & subversion, we get into sex talk. Use these baits to get women ready to talk sex… then subvert their expectations as you go into it.Today I’ll discuss a simple sex talk transition that I use frequently.
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Many men, especially the seasoned guys on our forums, are into sex talk, but one problem they face is transitioning into the topic. So, today I will share another way to transition into sex talk.
I have already shared these techniques for transitioning into sex talk:
How to Bridge Your Conversations with Girls into Juicy Topics
How to Transition into Sex Talk with a Girl by Using Proxies
EXPLICIT CONTENT! How to Sexualize Conversations with Minimal Resistance
And I’ll have more to come.
Most gambits I have shared contain transition examples. This is a continuation of last week’s post about using baits and subverting expectations to hook her in, stimulate her and facilitate those transitions. The concepts are similar to those presented last week, although tweaked for sex talk transitions.
Using baits and subversions are among my favorite ways of transitioning into sex talk, along with using proxies.
Like last week, you can use these transitions anytime during the interaction. Whether a gambit is suited for early or late game does not depend on the transition, but rather the theme discussed (light vs. bold sex talk) as discussed in part two of my sex talk calibration posts.
PS: Most techniques below are suitable for transitioning into sex talk, but you may also use them as transitions for anything—telling a story to convey high value or discussing a subject that conveys a good frame. See my previous article for details.
Want a simple way to hook women in? Bait them with something that sounds juicy or provocative… then subvert their expectations.Hey guys and welcome back.
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Today we will discuss hook techniques that will immerse her deeper into the interaction and serve as a transition into any topic.
Curiosity leads to immersion. When she’s immersed, transitions are easier because she’s hooked in. Immersion generates compliance—she will listen to what you say.
Because of the “hooking” nature of these gambits, they work exceptionally well for early game when you don’t yet have a hook and have time for fancier transitions. In these settings, baits can be a shortcut to deliver a transition quickly.
Also, generating curiosity early solidifies your hook post-opening. You stimulate, intrigue, and immerse her. It helps you proceed smoothly.
Of course, you can use baits anytime during the interaction. It keeps the interaction fun and fresh. However, you get the most bang for your buck by adding them early.
DHV stories let you showcase attractive qualities. Yet you don’t want to boast. So what can you do? Nest your value.When you talk to somebody else, that person only knows two things about you:
The way you talk about yourself, the types of stories you tell, and your manner of telling them is all part of this, too. All these things both show and tell.
The name of the game in human social interaction is to convey valuable traits, but do so in an adroit way that others can recognize without it being in their faces. This amplifies the value you have on display, because it positions you as a socially savvy man. Social savvy is a key aspect of a man’s attractiveness; in fact, it is one of our four categories of attractive fundamentals.
So you want to tell people valuable things about yourself, but you don’t want to come right out and brag. How can you do it?
One way that we’ll talk about today is by nesting displays of higher value inside entertaining stories that on the surface appear to display lower value.
Which girls to approach? Before you walk up, screen the girl & situation. You can learn a lot in advance… including whether she’s worth going up to or not.One of the reasons guys psyche themselves out so much with approaching is trying to figure out in advance how an approach is going to go.
Well, you’re not going to know in advance how an approach is going to go. But you can try to form a rough general idea about what you’re signing up for before you approach a girl, to ready your game (and perhaps steel your resolve).
This is the ‘pre-approach screening’ you do: before you even walk up to a girl, you try to form a measure of who she is, what she’s about, what she’s likely to respond to, and what kind of reaction you can expect to your approach.
Every guy does this automatically to some extent. However, less experienced men are a lot vaguer in their pre-approach screening and are much less adept at reading women accurately.
So let’s arm you with a few simple tools you can use to get a measure of a girl before you make the approach. This will help you decide how to approach her… and even if she’s someone worth approaching in the first place.
You’re talking to a girl and she says “I’m boring” or “I don’t date.” That’s the kiss of death, right? Well, not so long as you can get her to PROVE IT!When you talk to a girl and she starts throwing out claims about herself, these can seem like real obstacles if they don’t cooperate with the overall seduction.
Anti-seductive claims include women saying things like:
… and so on. Running into these can feel like a conversation death sentence if you don’t have a good response to reframe with.
After all, what hope is there really for a boring girl… a girl who doesn’t like excitement… a girl who doesn’t think about sex or go out on dates? None, right?
Au contraire, for in this article I’ll give you a simple little tactic you can use to turn these claims women make right on their head.
With this in-hand, instead of looking at women’s anti-seductive claims as if they are agile seduction killers, you will start to view women’s claims as clumsy fumbles that have led them right into your web.
The ball-in-her-court text can be very effective at getting flaky girls onto dates. It’s also easy to misuse, however… and even sabotage your attractiveness with.Recently on the forum we had a relatively new member claiming the ball-in-her-court text “doesn’t work” for him, and that women can “see through it” and it harms the man’s frame.
In case you’re unfamiliar with the ball-in-her-court text (which I’ll refer to as the BIHC text from here on out, to save me writing “ball-in-her-court text” fifty times), it’s this:
A text you send a woman after you have tried to get her out on dates repeatedly and repeatedly had her decline or flake on them. The text tells her (in an eloquent way) that you will chase her no more; it also says, however, that if she decides she’d like to get serious about going out sometime, to send you a message. After that, you simply forget all about her and do not contact her again ever unless/until you hear again from her.
As soon as I saw a guy saying women could “see through” the text I knew he must be using it wrong. There is no “seeing through it” to do (if used properly): you are explicitly telling a woman exactly what the situation is and exactly what to do!
It’s what makes the text so effective… in my experience it gets around a 50% text-back rate 2-8 weeks after you send it… I have heard from many of the other guys in our community who’ve used it their reply-back rate is similar.
Yet, newer guys often struggle with this message and, like that newer member on the forum, report that women simply vanish after they BIHC text them and do not return.
So let’s talk about the “who” and “when” of BIHC texting – because it’s clearly not for everyone, in every situation.
Even if making friends is easy, getting close to them is not. How do you build deep, lasting friendships? The secret is trust… which takes time; and also technique.Men who end up reading Girls Chase often seek improvement socially beyond just dating. They also want better and stronger friendships, broader social circles, and superior social skills across the board.
I’ve fielded a lot of questions over the years about how to deepen friendships. Often guys may make new friends, but observe that their new friends have deeper friendships with others than they do with them.
Part of the answer to this is “time” – spending enough time around and interacting with someone is a necessary step to building a lasting and deep relationship.
Another part of the answer though is “quality experiences” – i.e., not just hanging around eating Cheetos together watching the football game, but actually doing things or connecting over things that further the friendship bond.
Today I’m going to introduce you to several types of ‘friendship strengtheners’. Most of these will work to deepen your relationships with women as well. You won’t normally need them for a run-of-the-mill seduction… however, if you have a girl who’s a particularly tough case, or whom you’ve screwed up and need to recover with… or if you have a girl you’re already seeing, but you want a much stronger, deeper relationship with her… then these can work great.
We’ll start with activity-based friendship strengtheners, which are the more robust kind, but less convenient to use. Then we’ll talk about verbal friendship strengtheners, which are more flexible to use, but require the relationship already be at a certain point (which we’ll discuss, not to worry).
If you like to tease girls, you’ll like this one: teasing her by implying you want to get rid of her or get her away. Not only can this be a fun, playful tease – it is also a chase frame.I was reminded to write a post on a favored form of teasing by a recent report on our forum.
In it, the thread starter (Fluxcapacitor) relentlessly teases the girl he ultimately beds by implying that either:
He wants to get rid of her, or
He thinks she is a pariah in general
For example:
Girl: (eagerly) I'm going to Pub X!
Flux: Oh cool, I know to avoid there then.
Another:
Girl: Oh well it sucks to be you! (playfully with a giggle)
Flux: It actually does! Then I come out here and bump into you! It just gets worse!
And another:
Girl: I know, I know. But this is where the cool people come.
Flux: I'm surprised they let you in (playful look)
Here's one more:
Girl: It sucks to be you.
Flux: It actually does, and now I've just spent all night with you, how bad is that?!
As a guy who enjoys giving girls a good ribbing, this kind of teasing is one I quite like too.
Today, we're going to take a quick look at how this "get rid of her" / "she's a pariah" teasing works.
