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How to Pick Up Shy, Conservative Girls Who Don't Go Out

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By: Chase Amante

picking up shy, conservative girlsIt’s not hard to find girls who date around. But how do you find the girls who don’t – and how do you pick up such shy, conservative girls?

The online world is filled with men declaring that all women are out there hooking up constantly, leaping from one man to the next, and that conservative women are unicorns.

The reality however is that the median American woman sleeps with a mere three men in her entire life. 42% of American women sleep with two or fewer men. 21% sleep with just one man all their lives. 6% die virgins, never having been with a man. Why then does it seem like there’s a non-stop sex party going on?

It’s because all these women who aren’t out there dating, partying, and sleeping around are invisible. They’re not on the scene. They don’t actively date much. Most of them have very quiet social lives, or barely even any social life. Most men who are actively dating women – using avenues like dating apps or nightlife – very rarely run into girls like this. Because, again, these women aren’t active in the scene. The smaller number of prolific dating women, on the other hand, are VERY active… and it is easy to run into them a LOT.

I wrote this article to answer a question guys have been asking me lately: namely, where do you have to go and what do you need to do to pick up shy, conservative girls?

Tactics Tuesdays: Romantic Disclaimers

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By: Chase Amante

romantic disclaimersYou’re chatting with a girl, and she hasn’t rejected you, but you’re not certain she’s entirely down with you, either. How do you propose moves safely? With romantic disclaimers.

Let’s say you follow my advice and do your best to move faster with girls.

Just because you’re moving fast is no excuse to not mind social rules. You still must come across socially adroit even as you break society’s usual rules.

One simple way to do this as you ask things, invite girls to things, and make your proposals is with romantic disclaimers.

A romantic disclaimer is any bit of language you use to take the edge off anything you say that might otherwise be a bit improper. For girls who dig you but weren’t expecting you to move that fast, it can make all the difference.

10 Lessons from Drunk Chase to Help You Pick Up Girls

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By: Chase Amante

picking up women drunkWhen you pick up girls drunk, you behave in a more instinctive way – that SOMETIMES works better. I share 10 lessons learned from picking up drunk.

I talked to a guy the other day who asked me if it was hard figuring out what went wrong (when things did go wrong) back when I was first learning to pick up girls.

I said yes, to some extent, but I think I had it easier than many guys. I more or less started out my seduction journey with the VAC attraction model. That gave me a system for deciphering what was happening in a pickup and why right from the get-go. I also had a few other troubleshooting tools I received pretty early on.

Another thing I did while learning, I told him, was to “pay close attention to what Drunk Chase was doing.”

Back in the day, I used to be a pretty heavy drinker. A lot of guys get sloppy when they’re drunk and do a lot worse at picking up girls. But my problem when I was newer was social anxiety. Me getting drunk made me fun, cool, and smooth. I’d often go out, get very drunk, and pick up girls… a lot more easily than I could when sober. One of my early wingmen remarked to me that, “You’re really relaxed and cool when you’re drunk. I wish you could be like that all the time!”

He had a fair point. So, I made it my goal to be more like Drunk Chase all the time.

After that, even when I was hammered drunk, there’d be a little ‘Sober Chase’ inside my head, observing what I was doing, and taking notes. “Oh wow, I can’t believe I just did that,” I’d be saying, as Drunk Me pulled off yet another wild thing with a girl. I’d be even more shocked that it worked.

The lessons I learned from Drunk Chase I then applied to Sober Chase’s game.

As it turned out, they worked just as well sober as they did drunk.

I don’t drink to excess anymore. I kicked that habit, fortunately. It got a little too out-of-hand at one point. I was putting myself in too many risky situations while drunk and had one too many close calls.

Nevertheless, I still learned a lot during that period, and since the topic came up the other day, I thought it might be fun to share 10 of the lessons I learned from ‘Drunk Chase’ about how to better pick up girls.

Picking Up Girls from Bars that Close Early

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By: Alek Rolstad

early closing times in bars & nightclubsSome nightlife venues close early. Yet you can still pick up girls at them. The way you go about it requires good strategy – and a little advance planning.

Hey guys, welcome back.

In the next two posts, I’ll discuss the strategic management of nighttime game. Today, I will start with nightlife with early closing times, and next week, I will discuss how game changes when nightlife never truly sleeps. We will discuss how your game should vary given the venue’s hours where you live and clubs that close early (at or before three a.m.) or later (after 4 a.m.). It’s an under-discussed yet important factor you should not neglect, as it affects dynamics and your strategic choices.

When I talk about late opening hours, I refer to the usual opening hours of most venues in a particular location (where you live).

I won’t discuss after-hours places, as they are not the norm. Say most clubs close at 3 a.m. where you live, but a few after-hours places are open until 5 or 6. Unless the after-hours clubs are the norm in your nightlife (only a niche tends to go frequently), then it is the “standard” opening hours I am considering; in this case, 3 a.m.

Similarly, even if most clubs close at 3 a.m., some venues may close earlier. In this case, we still consider the closing hour to be 3 a.m. because the places that close earlier, say at 1 a.m. (usually smaller venues like pubs or lounges), can serve as a warm-up, and most frequenting these will eventually go to a club. Thus, the normal opening hour is what you should consider in your assessment.

It does not mean you cannot pull from venues that close earlier, nor does it mean you cannot pull early. However, in your overall game plan, you should not consider this due to the likelihood of ending up in a place that follows the usual closing hours.

The normal closing hours in your city can vary by location. You can get a good idea of what it is by checking:

  • The time clubs are legally allowed to be open without a special permit (after-hours venues).

  • The time most people head home.

Study: Women Know You're Attracted to Them by Scent

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By: Chase Amante

women smell men's interestWomen can sense a man’s interest levels from his odor. A girl who smells interest ‘wakes up’ out of autopilot – and must decide if she likes him back too.

Approach enough girls and it becomes pretty obvious that women can kind of tell when you genuinely want them versus when you’re just phoning it in.

You might wonder though, how do they tell? Is it the way you smile? Some subtle change in your behavior? A study by psychologists at Houston’s Rice University found women respond subconsciously to men’s “sexual sweat”:

Our results here show that the brain also recognizes the socioemotional information contained in the human sexual sweat. This is so despite the facts that subjects were verbally unaware of the nature of the olfactory stimuli and that the intensity and pleasantness differences had been statistically controlled for. Our findings provide olfactory evidence that the right orbitofrontal cortex and the right fusiform participate in the processing of chemosensory human socioemotional information. Moreover, they also offer neural support for the existence of affective communication through human sociochemosensory cues, a subject extensively studied in animal research but hitherto little known in humans.

Women do not consciously realize they’re responding to the scent of a man’s sweat (the study examined only women smelling men’s scents). It happens at a level below that of conscious awareness. But they nevertheless still do recognize it, and their brains respond in a different way to sexual sweat than they do to neutral sweat or other smells.

Tactics Tuesdays: Agree & Amplify to Beat Girls' Tests

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By: Chase Amante

agree and amplifyWhen women hit you with a double bind, here’s one easy way out of that: agree with what they say, then amplify it to the point of comical absurdity.

It’s time to talk about an old classic of test vanquishing: agree & amplify.

Agree and amplify is a simple technique you can use to get out of any light or unserious tests women throw your way. Women’s tests may stump you you’re a novice with girls, and may still occasionally trip you up a bit even at higher levels of skill and experience – especially when you encounter tests unfamiliar to you.

With agree and amplify in-hand, however, you can dodge most tests easily and maintain control of the frame.

Do Women Vet Men's Attractiveness Based on Their Approach?

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women evaluate man's approachA reader doubts why women wait for men to approach them. Is it really because they judge men’s approaches? Or are they just too scared to approach first?

Commenting on my article on girls not wanting you to move slow, a reader took issue with my claim that women vet men based on their approaches.

In particular, he argued that a woman saying she was attracted to a man who made a confident approach was a face-saving lie. The truth, he claimed, was that women simply do not approach men “out of fear and ego.”

Throughout the animal kingdom, among mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, fish, insects, and just about every class of animal there is, females await the male approach, and use it to evaluate the male as a prospective mate. They do this because male mate value is difficult to assess, and the male’s success at the courtship ritual – of which the approach is a vital element – is a powerful indicator of the male’s reproductive quality.

An attractive male approach excites the female, and begins the reproductive process. An unattractive male approach dampens the female’s interest, and shuts down reproduction.

But, could human females be an exception to this?

Might they, unlike the females of almost every other species, actually NOT use the male approach to assess, and instead simply not approach males themselves out of ego and fear?

4 Signs a Girl Can Be Picked Up THAT Night

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By: Alek Rolstad

pick a girl to pick up that nightWhen it comes to picking girls up, the savvy man looks for signs she’s open to that. Which signs does he look for? Compliance, logistics, plus 2 more.

Note: due to a slipup in the posting order, we published Part II of this series on choosing the right girls to pick up first. This is Part I of the series – last week’s article comes after this week’s.

Hey guys and welcome.

Today, I’ll cover an under-discussed topic extremely relevant in settings when multiple girls are chasing or showing interest in you: How do you know which girl to choose? This may seem contradictory because you can select who you want, but you have factors to consider before deciding.

Choosing the wrong target can cost you the night and the lay. If you go out with the intent to get a girl home that night, selecting the right target is critical. (Remember that the meta in night game is same night lays because taking numbers at night often results in flakes.)

It matters little how charming you are, how much her friends love you, if the girl has to get up early, if she lives far away, or has a last train to catch. There are anecdotal exceptions. (Once, I pulled a girl who had a flight to catch in four hours, and I got her friend to bring her luggage to the airport so she could leave straight from my place to the airport.) We will not discuss these exceptions here because we operate (and should operate) with probabilities, and whatever offers the highest chance of success is the right move.

You often have plenty of equally hot and cool girls with cold approach in night game. It lets you move on from a girl with terrible logistics, which I usually recommend. It isn’t like she isn’t replaceable—she is! Because you do not know her and have only barely met her superficially, moving on to another equally beautiful girl is no big deal.

Remember to choose a girl to pick up and eventually commit; otherwise, closing time approaches, and all those leads you had may end up with someone else, have left, or become bored from your indecisiveness. The latter is important to discuss because it is easy to get carried away when feeling on fire and having plenty of girls flirting with you. What often happens is that the momentum keeps you doing this, and eventually, you go home alone.

It is fine to be social, flirt around the venue, and generate social proof, but you should “commit” to one of your leads at some point. However, there are right and wrong ways of doing this, and making the wrong decision can cost you the night.

So, we will discuss choosing which girl to commit to and how to do it properly while avoiding common pitfalls.

Is Criticizing the Friend Zone or Neo-Direct Harmful to Men?

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neo-direct criticismA reader claims our criticisms of neo-direct have given him approach anxiety. Were we wrong to criticize the friend zone and neo-direct?

Commenting on my article on a study about what sort of compliments women respond best to, reader “Anonymous dude” writes:

Maybe guys wouldn't be twiddling their thumbs and stopped approaching women, worried about what to say and how to open if you didn't come up with this arbitrary confusing "neo direct" concept that makes some guys too self conscious and puts them too in their head. Especially when people that you've hired from your own team open "neo direct" not going to name people.

Just saying there may be some validity in this neo direct concept since i've seen this pattern of guys opening women in very simplistic ways and getting sporadic results and eventually plateuing but it's not like you're showing how to approach effectively or what one would look like. Reading about this made me too concerned about whether i'm running ineffective game that's a waste of time that I stopped approaching almost altogether.

If you’re unfamiliar with the term neo-direct, it’s a term I coined two years ago to put a label on the “shoot your shot” philosophy so rampant in modern red pill, man guru advice you see on Youtube, in forums, and everywhere else. Alek Rolstad wrote a proper series on it, “The Trouble with Neo-Direct”, which you can read here.

This simplistic method is the 2020s analogue to the friend zone of the 1990s and 2000s – the conventional wisdom, no-skill-required tack every guy and his brother took and recommended to every other guy to take to try to get women.

What the friend zone was to guys back then, shoot your shot neo-direct is to men today.

But, is there some validity to neo-direct?

Should you ever use it?

And… have I harmed men by opposing it?

Tactics Tuesdays: Sexual Attractor Kino

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By: Chase Amante

sexual attractor kinoGirls often do things to visibly attract men. Once you’ve hooked a girl, you can look at and touch these things to raise the sensuality of the seduction.

This is a tactic from the old school seducer Lifeguard, from back in the Fast Seduction days. It does a handy job at upping the sexual electricity between you and a girl. It communicates to her that you recognize and appreciate what she’s doing to look sexy. Then, it gets you touching her in these sexual attractor locations – which does excellent things for the seduction.

Lifeguard, if you’re unfamiliar with him, was a confident, muscular playboy who took his handle from his days lifeguarding as a youth. While still a novice he joined a competition with the other lifeguards to see who could bed the most new girls in a summer. Girls did not count if one of the other lifeguards had already laid them. Putting his seductive skills to work, he racked up 50 lays over a 3-month summer, winning him the competition and emblazoning his path ahead as a legendary seducer.

His archive on the now-defunct Fast Seduction forum is well worth reading if you’re curious to learn more. You can download it (alongside other legendary guys’ archives) here.

Today’s Tactics Tuesdays is not about a tactic Lifeguard shared on mASF, however.

Instead, it comes from one of the handful of blog posts he made on the small seduction blog he very briefly ran, long since vanished from the web.