(2) Intermediate

Rope women in with two very different seduction gambits that ask “who likes sex more, men or women?” One of these is bold… but the other is light as air.

Hey guys. Welcome back.

Now that we are discussing sex talk, I’d like to share two fun gambits that are both stimulating and light.

These are simple to pull off and have the same theme: Who likes sex more, men or women? However, both gambits are very different. This shows how we can use one theme to set different frames.

Both gambits can set a sexual frame and get the conversation going about sex. Both gambits are easy and fun to use and are good tools for stimulating her mentally and sexually. Despite talking about the same theme, they both serve different purposes. The first gambit is light and not too explicit, so it’s ideal for early game but is still beneficial later. This one can pace her reality and show that you understand her world when it comes to sex. It also frames yourself as nonjudgmental and, more importantly, sets sex-positive frames, which can help you dodge potential resistance later.

The other version is more about sexual prizing. This gambit conveys a great understanding of sex and female sexuality and shows girls that you are sexually experienced and a good lover. It is more explicit, so it may sexually stimulate her. It’s ideal for mid-to-late game, but you may use it earlier if the situation allows and you know what you are doing.

These are not complex gambits. They are simplified to work on most women, whether highly educated or less mature.

I will share two variations; one focuses on the socio-sexual aspects, which is lighter, and the other focuses on female understanding and is more explicit, discussing sex and orgasms.

Men often make chase by showing interest women have not ‘earned’. If you do not want to chase, tie your interest-showing to her giving HIGH POINTS!

What do all these questions, asked of a woman you’ve recently met, have in common?

• “Are you single?”

• “How old are you?”

• “Do you have a boyfriend?”

• “Would you like to hang out?”

The answer is all these questions show interest in the girl.

Depending on how far along you are with her, and what type of game you’re running, you may even be showing more interest than she is ready for yet.

That’s because when you show too much interest in a girl unearned, it gives her the feeling that you are much more interested in her than she is in you – and it (very often) brings your seduction of her to a close.

Rather than ‘jump the gun’ by asking these questions too soon, we’re going to do something else: we’re going to save these questions for high points.

When a girl is boy crazy, she can’t get her mind off men. She needs a man – & almost any man might do! Here’s how to spot these girls easily (+ what to do).

How do you tell if a girl you’re talking to is just a regular chick trying to get by in the world… or a love-drunk, boy-crazy trollop? How do you know if she’s with you because you’re great, or because she’s got a hole in her life (or her cooch) to fill and you seem like you could be a fit?

Boy crazy girls are a mixed bag for relationships; they’re also a mixed bag for seduction. At least in terms of pickups and quick flings, these gals can have their pluses; though they also come with downsides. These girls are worth understanding, however, because you will meet a lot of them.

I came across a wonderful article written by a woman who’s had enough with these types of women as friends – these strumpets perpetually in pursuit of men. I’ll quote a few choice bits:

One of my biggest peeves about female friendships are women whose entire lives are centered around men, relationships, crazy situationships, Tinder, and their never ending thirst for low quality males who mistreat, reject, ghost and emotionally abandon them.

There is nothing more unattractive than women whose entire existence revolves around chasing men. Every conversation, every night out, every interaction involves exhausting scenarios of who she is talking to now, what he said to her, who ghosted her, how many males she is seeing this week, and all the emotional disappointments that come with texting with 50 different candidates a month. It is absolutely exhausting to have to listen to women who only have one subject to talk about, men. And then, there are women who disappear the moment they get into a relationship. She takes this male so seriously, that she practically disappears to concentrate on her connection to him. She prioritizes some goon who offered her a getaway, and she acts like she’s already in a serious relationship, when he just needs someone to screw for the weekend. When he stops answering her texts, she’s back acting like my best friend needing some advice, for the 101st time.

Men ghost them, therefore the man is bad. A girlfriend no longer picks up the phone, therefore the friendship was bad. They extract every ounce of a friend’s energy, and they keep coming back expecting me to listen to the latest dating drama, as if this one is different from the last. Nothing ever changes for man crazy women. When they should be getting professional help, they spend that money on a new hairstyle- maybe that will make her more attractive for the next guy.

The full blog article is worth reading (the writer is a very self-aware woman with some delightful perspectives), but these bits give you some idea about what we’ll discuss here.

How do you tell whether the girl you’re chatting up is boy crazy… versus just a regular girl?

And if she is boy crazy, is she worth seducing or dating – or not?

Sex with strangers is different from sex within relationships. The distinction isn’t just academic – it’s useful fuel for a seduction, too.

Hey guys. Welcome back.

Today, I want to share my perspective on a gambit that has brought me much success.

In mid-2023, veteran poster Tominho on skilledseducer.com shared a sex talk gambit called “Strangers versus Lovers.” This concept highlights the differences between sexual experiences in a relationship and those with a stranger. His take differs from mine, so if you like what you read below, check out his version as well.

I like this gambit because it accomplishes many things, ranging from the obvious: setting a sexual frame.

This gambit also accomplishes these:

• Connects with her pacing – You show that you understand her point of view regarding sex. (Most women share the point of view presented in this gambit.)

• Creates comfort – As you discuss comfort, her comfort increases. (I think my version emphasizes comfort more than Tominho’s, which focuses more on arousal by emphasizing the magic of having sex with a mysterious stranger.)

• Stimulates her – Tominho’s version emphasizes arousal more, but one can spice up the version I present here, and I do that often, too.

More importantly:

• Sexual prizing occurs – As you share knowledge about sexual subjects (linked to pacing).

• You increase frame control – This gambit is great at flipping the script and reframing objections women have about casual sex and why they tend to prefer sex in relationships.

Next, I’ll run through the gambit. This gambit is safe to use and suitable for the early game (but also works great in mid-to-late-game). I will also discuss Tominho’s version, which works better as a mid-to-late-game gambit.

Guys will tell you “if she flakes or doesn’t reply, delete her number.” Yet girls’ availability always shifts; the veteran playboy knows not to delete her.

A lot of guys, for their own peace of mind, and to head off any needy-chasing behavior in themselves, delete girls’ numbers if they judge a girl too flakey, unresponsive, or rude.

I did it myself as a dating newbie. It can give you a jolt of pride, as if you ‘rejected’ this girl who wasn’t showing sufficient interest in you. It can also stop you wasting time obsessing over girls you’re unlikely to convert.

There is merit to it, to a degree. It does have its place.

Nevertheless, there is no denying that experienced playboys who get laid a lot don’t do this, and that, in the grand scheme of things, it is the result of bad game.

This basic sex talk gambit is easy to use – and can melt women’s resistance to sex. The way it works: framing sex as something NATURAL.

Hey, guys.

One of my signature techniques is sex talk. I will discuss this topic extensively in the coming weeks, considering its recent rise in popularity on the skilled seducer’s forum.

Sex talk has long been a recognized technique. I have established a reputation in the seduction community thanks to my experience using it.

Since then, I have written numerous posts on the subject, which I’ve compiled in this thread.

STICKIED: Sex Talk Gambits Compilation (And more)

This thread is, in a way, an homage to the sex talk legacy. I realized that one of the initial sex talk gambits did not show up on this list! Some classics, such as the eight types of orgasms (one of my first) as well the gambits in these articles, 3 Sex Talk Gambits So Bold & Explicit They Arouse Girls Instantly and 3 Sex Gambits: Good/Bad Sex, Sex is Unfair, and the Dark Side (especially the sex is unfair gambit) are there, but one classic that has been well-utilized is missing.

It’s time to remedy that. This gambit can remove resistance. It is from 2009, and I was not a master then, but this basic gambit is easy to pull off, safe, and is still efficient.

For the gambit, you may skip ahead to the section “Sex is Natural Gambit.” However, I recommend not doing so as I will share some interesting ideas and history that I think you will enjoy.

Raise your rate of girls saying “yes” to dates with you by asking them out with a soft close. Be smoother, get more dates, & experience fewer rejections!

If you listened to my lengthy interview with legendary playboy Skills, you may recall a section of the interview (near the end) where we spent time discussing the use of a soft close.

(the gist of what we discussed was Skills’s approach to texting soft closes girls after he takes their numbers, while my approach to texting soft closes girls before taking their numbers; either one, by the way, works – it’s more a matter of stylistic/game preference)

A soft close is a way to create a short yes-ladder that eases girls into a date with you.

Rather than smack her in the face with a high pressure date request out of the blue, you baby step her into agreeing to a date – raising her comfort, your smoothness, and the odds you turn this girl you’re having a conversation with into, first, your date, and then, your lover.

Today we’ll look at how to use soft closes.