Insights from the Mind of a Seducer

Howdy gents,

I'm pleased to announce the boards, in development since early autumn and closed-but-active since mid-November, are now open to the public.

Opened up to an initial small group of 35 members one month ago, and expanded to a larger pool two weeks ago, we're now fully ready to roll out the new Girls Chase forum for you to read, learn from, post to, and connect with other guys on, with members everywhere from beginner to intermediate to advanced levels and beyond at getting girls, running relationships... the works.

(the new Girls Chase Boards)

In only a month of existence, the boards have racked up almost 1900 posts across 350+ topics, but even more importantly, we're off to a great start in terms of culture and tone: it's a warm, open place focused on results, first and foremost; no cynicism, whining, complaining, or reaction-seeking, and it's almost 100% negativity-free.

Only a small part of that's due to me; truth is, we've got some great guys on there, from Franco, our moderator, to some of the more advanced guys helping out and providing their own insights (one of those guys, Eric, you've already seen some posts from out here on the blog), to the newer guys who are getting out there, working hard, sharing their results (progress and setbacks alike), and seeing successes: new phone numbers, more dates, kisses, lovers... even new girlfriends.

If you weren't part of the initial group to join, I recommend you check it out right now - we've removed the access restrictions, and anybody who's motivated and wants to help out, contribute, share his findings, chronicle his journey, and connect with other likeminded students of the social and seductive arts can do by clicking the "Discussion" link above, or by going right here:

http://www.girlschase.com/boards/

See you on the boards.

Chase

On Ricardus's post "How to Make Her Want You: Lessons from Marketing," a commenter named Garrett reports being conflicted over a few aspects of what's taught here. In particular, he asks why physical intimacy is needed with romantic partners, and if dating without sex isn't also just as possible.

Here's the part of his comment dealing with this topic:

“Out of curiosity, I've spent a lot of time researching this topic, and there are a few things I fail to understand. Firstly, to get a girlfriend, why must you sleep with them? If you can prove me wrong then I'd be interested to know, but I feel indifferent about this. I feel that everything in life requires balance and in order to get a girl to like you, you should be yourself, be mindful of ways to improve yourself, and strike a balance between acting like a jerk and on the contrary, a 'wet noodle' who is no challenge whatsoever.”

Garrett also goes on to say that he feels like other aspects of what's discussed on Girls Chase feel to him like "manipulation," though this is a topic already addressed in depth in " Is Seduction Wrong?," the basic premise of which is that people who lack the drive to improve themselves fear others who do who become conscious of their own actions and strive to perfect them, typically working to censor them and stop them to prevent competition and declining options for themselves (e.g., you will rarely have a successful career woman who's had to tooth and claw her way to success and improve herself dramatically stand and accuse you of being manipulative for learning seduction, though you will often have a girl who dropped out of high school and works at the local taco shop fly into a frenzy over how "manipulative" men like you are, presuming of course that she doesn't actually know you and is instead setting you up in her mind as some diabolical "other").

I won't cover whether seduction is manipulation and whether I ought to censor myself here or not again, although I will note that it does partly come down to where you draw the line - there are certain "dark arts" of seduction, like October Man and like Sexual Power Reversal, that I simply don't teach because it's too easy to do harm to women by wielding these clumsily. So, I do have an "ethical limit;" if I really honestly think it's something that can lead to the average man doing more harm than good, I don't teach it.

What I will talk about here today is if it's really necessary for you to have sex with a woman you want to pursue a romantic relationship with. Can you skip this step and get by with just waiting for marriage?

It's a question I've been asked a number of times on the site, and haven't addressed yet... at least on here.

But, as it turns out, this is actually one of the very first questions I had to discuss - and debate - on a public scale that has to do with sex.

So come with me, and let's have a look at what happens when you do not have sex.