Tactics Tuesdays: Innocuous Openers

Hey guys. Welcome back.
Occasionally, I participate in online conversations about pickup. Sometimes, beginners ask me basic questions. I typically don’t identify as a coach for beginners, nor do I promote my coaching services to this group. Most of my content is for intermediate and advanced guys. I often find beginning techniques to be dull and repetitive. However, there are times when I feel compelled to answer questions from beginners.
I’ve recently received a familiar question that has been covered extensively in the past. But considering I’ve been discussing more complex sex talk topics lately, I thought why not take a break and write about something more easygoing? Considering the question I am about to answer is one that rarely catches my attention and that I don’t usually bother to think about, you may find this a good review when reading the answer to a perhaps familiar question by a guy who rarely discusses it.
Can an average guy succeed with women?
After all, somehow average guys (and below) get girlfriends. So it must be doable, right?
I usually ignore this question because it is irrelevant to me. It has no direct effect on your skills. Learning theories and applying the techniques is what truly matters. This may be because I am advanced and am taking a more arrogant and dismissive perspective. Well, not today, my friend.
The quick answer to the question is:
No. Average men cannot succeed with women.
So, are you doomed as a beginner? Well, not exactly. The real question is, are you truly average? See what I did there? I reframed the question, and you should learn this too.
Ever since I started Girls Chase way back in 2008, I have had men telling me that women don’t want to be approached by men.
As you level up to sleeping with younger and hotter women, getting sex should (in theory) become easier and easier.
This post by Warped Mindless originally appeared on our forum here.
Hey guys. Welcome back.
I have been sharing some gambits about the concept of listing. It is a powerful tool for setting and controlling the frame of a conversation. When talking to a woman, you can use listing by providing several reasons for a particular point, which can help her accept the frame. This technique is straightforward. Advertisements frequently employ listing techniques both online and in television commercials.
The examples I provided in my two latest posts demonstrate how listing works in the field, and I hope the examples in this post will do the same.
Even though listing is intuitive, the hard part is to pull it off correctly, ensuring that each dimension you list seems persuasive and desirable to her.
It’s not really about convincing and being correct, as in political debate. It is about making the girl think, “Damn, he gets it; I like this.” If you use a defensive tone and get into an argumentative state, you have lost the seduction, and the conversation will turn into a debate. If you ever get there, pace and lead her elsewhere and change the subject by fractionating out.
Today, we will go through a gambit using the same template. It has a similar theme to last week, but instead of focusing on sexual comfort, we will focus on arousal and sexual prizing by conveying that you are a good lover with great skills, experience, and knowledge.
In 2001, I, a somewhat taller than average, somewhat more attractive than average, slim American white guy with a deep voice who’d been called “the man” and “bad ass” by the coolest kids in high school and had been chased for dates by the prettiest and most popular girls (and cheerleaders) in high school went to work in a tire store.
There I met Jim, a short, fat, swarthy Puerto Rican tire salesman with a higher-pitched voice who lived in a ramshackle rented single-family home that was really only good for throwing parties.
Jim was the first guy I ever met who was an out-and-out player. He was constantly sleeping with good-looking white girls, such as our boss’s over 6’ modelesque cousin when she visited from England (she had a good 7 inches on him at least). That girl messaged him furiously after returning to England that she couldn’t sleep with her boyfriend anymore because she wanted only Jim now.
Meanwhile, of course, Jim was happily sleeping with more, new girls… not to mention his sweet blonde girlfriend, who went out of her way to bring him sandwiches for lunch at the tire shop.
I’d never been on a date in my life at this point, and despite the attention I got in high school had no idea what to say to girls. I didn’t watch Jim with envy… more like perplexed wonder.
How did he do it? What exactly was he doing to score all these girls?
I never asked him, because I was too proud to ask. Plus if I admitted that I couldn’t get girls I’d look weak. (even though he clearly knew right away anyway)
But I can tell you now, the #1 factor that differentiated 18-year-old Chase from 25-year-old Jim:
I had a ton of limiting beliefs, but Jim had none.
Commenting on my article about dating for autistic men (where I remarked how autistic guys often become ‘approach machines’ who chew through hundreds/thousands of approaches with little to show for it), Sub-Zero asks
I’m just wondering if it takes hundreds to thousands of approaches to get a lay or a few, how are guys still going after getting rejected so much?
If I approached 20 women during day game and couldn’t get a lay, I’d be discouraged. If I did get a lay, but I had to approach 20 more to get another, I’d probably get lazy and take what I can get. So, how are guys getting a lot of lays with all these approaches it seems like you have to focus a lot on doing this, when are you free to do other things?
I think I’ve been misunderstanding cold approaching numbers.
All right, so first off, most men are not autistic. Most guys are not going to need to do hundreds (or God forbid thousands) of approaches to get a single lay off of cold approach.
That said, cold approach is not social circle game. It is going up to talk to strangers to find out who’s available, attracted, and receptive to your game. Many girls you approach won’t be any of those, or maybe some but not all of those.
For this reason, it is and always will be a numbers game.
Like anything that is a numbers game, most guys will try it out, try grinding for a bit, not get much back for their results, and burn out on it.
Getting good at cold approach requires a man to make it past that initial ‘heavy grinding burnout phase’ that serves as a major filter to cold approach success.
Let’s talk about how to do that and avoid taking a walk down cold approach’s ‘wash out lane’.
This post by Cody Lyans originally appeared on our forum here.
Totally random title but it is the way I pre-approach girls if I intend to go in HOT.
So what is a vibe bomb?
Hey guys. Welcome back. I hope you are all doing well.
Today, I want to share a comfort gambit that utilizes listing, a technique we discussed over the past two weeks (see the rest of my series on using listing during sex talk). We talked about how to use listing as a tool for frame control and addressing potential tests you may receive from women when discussing sex. Last week, I provided examples of how to use this technique to build comfort.
I will continue with what we did last week. I will use listing as the main concept to set the frames of trust and comfort throughout the gambit.
This gambit is called the diachronic sex gambit. Do not be intimidated by the word diachronic. It simply means “through time,” and knowledge of the word is not necessary for using it.
It is an easy gambit to understand and use.
I have many versions, but today, we will focus on one that focuses on building sexual trust and comfort.
Before delving into the gambit, I’d like to expand on the analysis from last week regarding the importance of sexual trust and comfort.
I try to create hybrid gambit posts by covering theory while sharing techniques. This provides a “two in one package” so that you have both theory and tools. However, sex talk is the verbalization of a theory about male-to-female interactions, sexology, and sexual sociology. Thus, my theoretical analysis is not unwarranted. It is essential to understand what goes on behind the technique.