Note from Chase: J.J. is one of our more esteemed forum members, pulling off seduction jujitsu with beautiful women and producing a steady stream of increasingly ballsy (and often quite funny) lay reports. He has an intelligent, laid back style, doesn't mind moving quickly with women or getting sexual with them in a hurry, and has a lot of great insights into the female mind that he's been liberal with sharing to forum members running into their own issues. Without any more ado, here's J.J.'s first post here on the article side of Girls Chase.
In today's article, what I'll be talking about are basic ways to get
a read on how invested in you women are, and how you can escalate that
investment very quickly with simple but very powerful compliance tests.
Using compliance tests has been one of the most helpful things I have learned from hanging out here at Girls Chase. Not only is the compliance test an extremely important and useful social tool, you should go to it early and often. With that in mind, I think a good way to kick this off is by focusing on the simple point that there are basically three ways that people interact and make impressions upon one another within a social setting:
- They demonstrate their value levels
- Indicate interest or disinterest
- And they test for compliance
A compliance test is basically asking (or telling) someone to do something for you, and is something that I have noticed has been sorely lacking from a lot of field reports on the boards as of late. I believe there is a reason for that, since testing for compliance is the only action in the list above that really isn't done implicitly or automatically.
Whether we are trying to or not, we're constantly displaying a value level to those around us. We're also constantly displaying interest levels without much awareness of doing it.
Now, just to clarify, so long as you're not running around in autopilot, value and interest displays can definitely be controlled. What I am really getting at here is that you have more control over how you use compliance tests than you do the value or interest levels you display. I think the most important piece of information that you should take away from my brief into here is that testing for compliance actually has pretty profound effects on the value level and the interest level that you display.
The easy part of that formula is that simply by testing for compliance, you show a woman that you are interested in interacting with her. Also, for obvious reasons, getting compliance increases your value from her perspective - you become more attractive. There is also a third (and probably most important) benefit of getting compliance, and that is gaining investment in your interaction from the other person. When people take the time to do things for you - however minute - they're investing their time, thoughts and efforts into the relationship between the two of you.
A Scientific Study
Just a few days ago, anthropologist Cara M. Wall-Sheffler of the University of Washington released a study regarding the walking paces of men and women who are lovers versus those of men and women in platonic relationships. Here's the abstract:
“Research has shown that individuals have an optimal walking speed-a speed, which minimizes energy expenditure for a given distance. Because the optimal walking speed varies with mass and lower limb length, it also varies with sex, with males in any given population tending to have faster optimal walking speeds. This potentially creates an energetic dilemma for mixed-sex walking groups. Here we examine speed choices made by individuals of varying stature, mass, and sex walking together. Individuals (N = 22) walked around a track alone, with a significant other (with and without holding hands), and with friends of the same and opposite sex while their speeds were recorded every 100 m. Our findings show that males walk at a significantly slower pace to match the females' paces (p = 0.009), when the female is their romantic partner. The paces of friends of either same or mixed sex walking together did not significantly change (p>0.05). Thus significant pace adjustment appears to be limited to romantic partners. These findings have implications for both mobility and reproductive strategies of groups. Because the male carries the energetic burden by adjusting his pace (slowing down 7%), the female is spared the potentially increased caloric cost required to walk together. In energetically demanding environments, we will expect to find gender segregation in group composition, particularly when travelling longer distances.”
What I take away from this study is that women will usually get compliance from men (i.e., slowing them down) that are interested in them sexually without much effort. Keep in mind that like any scientific study, this was performed against random people who are supposed to represent the "general population".
It's my hunch that if they did the same study using only seasoned seducers, there'd be very little to no change in the men's walking pace, and that you'd actually see an increase in speed in the women's walking pace. These are men who know how to lead a woman and get her to comply with requests and demands as opposed to the average Joe's that chase their women, investing in them and losing the power-struggle instead.
Swiftly Navigating Her Compliance Threshold
Compliance levels are not tangible reference points, so you'll need feel your way around a little at first while you're getting up to speed with them. You might start out using compliance requests (asking a woman to comply with something) and then move up to making compliance demands (simply telling her to comply), or increasing the level of investment you ask of her as you either (a) see your girl's compliance threshold increase or (b) get better at using compliance tests.
If you need a quick refresh on compliance requests and demands, here are a couple of articles to jog your memory:
Compliance tests can range from simply asking a woman to move over a few feet with you, to asking her to jump off a bridge (which we would never do, but you get the point). Moving a girl is the perfect compliance test to start out with because it's a relatively simple request that doesn't require a lot of investment on her part right off the bat.
The way to increase her threshold is to get her giving positive responses to your compliance tests, and increasing the investment level needed on her part little by little over time. If you ask for too much compliance too early on in the interaction, you'll risk her becoming combative and defiant and possibly even going into auto-rejection. If you ask for too little compliance, or (gasp) none at all, then you're just not doing a lot in the way of increasing your perceived value and building her attraction toward you.
Her compliance threshold and comfort level is ever-changing, most significantly within the first several hours or so of meeting you. If your request or demand is beyond her threshold to comply with you - that is, she feels you're asking her for too much more than she's willing to give - she won't comply, or else will just dismiss the test altogether (which is more likely a sign of disinterest).
Also, her compliance threshold will begin to sway in one direction fairly heavily, with much resistance being met when you try to sway it back in the other direction. Think of the "yes-ladder", where the more she says yes then the more apt she is to keep saying yes because you have compliance momentum. You do not want negative compliance momentum, because once she starts responding to your tests with defiance, it's an uphill battle from there, getting her to start responding more positively again.
Not only are compliance tests useful for getting investment and
increasing her attraction to you, however, but a girl's reactions to
them are usually
pretty good indicators as to her interest level as well. A girl who
isn't interested in you isn't going to stop to talk with you, sit on a
bench with you, hold your stuff for a minute or get you a drink.
A good example of a compliance threshold is if you walk up to your girlfriend and plant a big kiss on her, she will let you because you have built a high level of compliance with her. There is a huge level of comfort there.
What do you think would happen if you walked up to a complete stranger and tried to kiss her instead? I'm guessing you'd have very little chance of making that happen, and unless you're in a club on the dance floor it is probably a good way to get your head smacked off your shoulders. So now you can see why we have to build up her comfort and compliance threshold over time, taking her walls (and eventually her panties) all the way down.
Compliance Momentum and "Why So Quick?"
So why is it so important to get compliance so soon in an
interaction with a new girl? The
answer is that fast early compliance builds compliance momentum and
you moving her threshold toward where you need it to be in order to
take her to bed.
Your opener itself is actually a compliance test. A girl will either provide you her attention (giving compliance) or dismiss you (defiance); in other words, the starting point for getting compliance is immediately. It's never too soon to start feeling her out, and if you can quickly process her reaction to your opener then you will have a good barometer to base subsequent compliance tests off of.
The key to compliance tests is your voice tone and your body language. These things are ever so more important in the early stages of an interaction, before you've had a chance to build much rapport or comfort. It is an absolute must that you look "happy" and sound "warm".
A huge measure for compliance tests is her comfort level. It's essential that you present tests in a way that helps her pass them for you. If someone walked up to you with a sneer and said to you (in a bored tone of voice): "Hey there, come over here with me for a second" how would you react to this person? You'd tell him to take a hike, wouldn't you?
Now, if that same person approached you confidently with a huge smile on his face and asked this of you, this time with a perked (but masculine) tone of voice, then how would you react?
You'd probably be much more apt to give this guy a few minutes of your time than the alternative, wouldn't you?
I notice that for a lot of guys, when they first begin learning the art of seduction, asking a woman to do something for them when they've just met her might seem a little "different" or "unusual", and it makes them a little nervous about doing it. Well, that's because it is...
And the fact that this is a "different" or "unusual" thing to do with someone you've just met is most definitely a good thing. You immediately separate yourself from all the average, timid people in the world who wouldn't dare inconvenience others this way. Women will think to themselves "Who is this guy?" if you deliver your compliance tests correctly and at just the right place below their compliance thresholds. If you deliver these clumsily or above their compliance thresholds, though, instead of smiling and thinking "Who is this guy?", they will more likely think to themselves "Who does this guy think he is?"
Think about the following interaction for a moment:
Joe: "Hey there, my name's Joe and I just had to stop you and tell you that I thought you were really cute."
Jeanette: "Oh! Thank you!"
Joe:"Yeah. Nice day today isn't it?"
Jeanette: "Ha. Yeah I guess it is."
[conversation continues with more small talk and the occasional remark from Joe here about something interesting he does or likes]
Joe:"Well, I've got to run. But, it was cool chatting you up. Would it be okay if we got a coffee sometime soon?"
Jeanette: "Well uh, ok. I usually don't give out my number though."
Our guy Joe here is darned near fighting for his life just to get her contact information.
You know why?
Because he hasn't ever asked her for anything else.
And if he had, he probably came off as a little unsure and uncomfortable about it, and made it a "big deal". Her comfort level and compliance threshold is simply not high enough at this point that she is willing to give him her number. You just can't go from "0 to 60" that quickly. It will seem a little off, and weird to her. Her gut reaction is something along the lines of: "What? Meet for coffee? Give him my number?! I don't do stuff for this guy!?!"
Now, let's say Jeanette keeps walking and runs into another chap:
Jason: "Hey there, come here for just a second."
Jeanette: "Oh, uh... what?"
Jason: "I saw you walking here and I just had to tell you... how incredibly cute you are."
Jeanette: "Oh! Thank you!"
Jason: "Here, let's step out of the way of all this foot traffic for a sec."
Jeanette: "Oh sure, okay."
Jason: "So, tell me your name."
Jeanette: "It's Jeanette! And you are?"
Jason: "I'm Jason, so what are you doing out today? You have work, school today or just down here to shop?"
[conversation continues, he deep dives and gets her to tell him more]
Jason: "Well, I got to run. But, it was cool chatting you up. We should grab a coffee sometime soon."
Jeanette: "Oh for sure!"
Jason: "Cool, cool. Here, give me your number and we'll figure that out."
Jeanette: "Ok, it's 976..."
Notice all the compliance tests in the second interaction there? In case you weren't counting, they were:
He opens by telling her to "come here for a sec"
He then tells to step off the main path with him for a moment
Next, he tells her to tell him her name
He probes around into what she's doing out, and starts deep diving, which has a number of other compliance tests built in (unlike Joe, who just talks about himself... no investment from her other than some simple listening)
At the end of the interaction, he tells her the two of them should grab a coffee
And he finished up by telling her to give him her number
We can guess he probably even goes to the trouble of telling her to
have a great day (or, more likely, something relevant to her
situation... e.g., "Do good in school this week!").
And the thing is, it all comes off completely natural. There're no overblown requests like "hey, get me a soda!" or the like. Who do you think has the best chance of seeing Jeanette again? Joe... or Jason?
If you said Jason, you would be correct. Jeanette feels a connection with Jason, because she feels invested in him. He led her with confidence and got her talking about herself.
And Joe? He is just some weird guy who stopped her to talk about the weather and tried to trick her into giving him her phone number!
This is why you need to ask for compliance so early, and why you need to gradually escalate the amount of investment the women you're speaking to are putting forth.
You should also be testing a girl's touch compliance early on in the interaction. You can touch a girl in a way that builds compliance very easily by comparing hand sizes, taking her hand to look at a ring or a watch, or just touching her arm when you're telling her something funny or compelling. Your requests can be verbal or non-verbal (my favorite). Squint and give her a quizzical look as if you can't hear her, to get her to lean forward or speak up. Wave at her to follow you somewhere.
All these reasons are why compliance tests are one of the most important things you must be mindful of as you try to move faster with women. The quicker you get her accustomed to complying and investing time and effort into you, the more that new gal you've just met will feel comfortable, and, ultimately, the faster you will get together.
It's a problem I see all too often with guys who are just getting the hang of moving faster with women: they push-push-push, but don't take any steps to make the girl feel comfortable following their leads in that regard. You need to start testing for compliance right from the get-go, and gaining momentum so that women will always feel at ease with you taking the lead.
"Picking Up" the Pieces
Now that we've uncovered all the reasons you should be building compliance as early on as possible and discussed why it's so important to navigate women's thresholds carefully, how can you make the most of this knowledge and help it to speed up your interactions with women and get them following your lead? Here's a good checklist for you:
- Rid yourself of any fear or anxiety of using compliance tests
- Immediately process her reaction to your opener
- Start to build compliance and comfort levels from the very start
- Work on delivering compliance tests in a naturally warm, unchallenging way
- Navigate her compliance threshold with some caution, especially early on
- Review your interactions to keep getting a better feel
It's my hope that, at this point, you now have a much better understanding of why quick compliance is a must in order to build attraction and get your girl. I've seen Chase write the words "If she didn't know before, she knows now" a few times in response to that moment in a field report where the girl's interest becomes painfully obvious. I'd like to see that statement come a little sooner, wouldn't you?