How to Approach a Girl Wherever You Are (Easily)


approach a girlLately I've been noticing a fair amount of guys discussing difficulty approaching women while looking smooth and effortless. Some of the time, they're ending up not approaching girls they like at all, because they can't find the "right angle" or they're waiting for the "right moment," and that moment never comes.

Approaching girls is a bit of an art, but how to approach a girl is not - that you can boil down to distinct bits, pieces, and learnable, repeatable steps.

However, it's also a topic that's shrouded in a lot of general, generic advice and scads of "Just do this [hard-sounding thing] and the girl is yours!"

Before we get into the mechanics on how to approach a girl, a few articles to recommend checking out if you haven't already done so (or, are in need of a refresher):

We'll be using and referring to these principles here - if you're vague or unfamiliar with any of them, make sure you give these a look.

That in mind, let's get you armed up with a process for approaching that takes advantage of the situation and the environment and has you meeting girls as easily as possible, as smoothly as possible, and with the best end point possible (the girls you meet wanting to meet up with you again and exchanging contact details with you - or better).

And we'll do all that with the 4 big mistakes that men make when approaching - and the 10 steps to take to have a near-perfect approach.


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There are four (4) categories of mistakes the average guy makes in his approaching - and there's no need to feel bad about it if you catch yourself doing them, as they're all quite common.

The categories are:

  1. Waiting for the "Right Moment"

  2. Not Being Aggressive Enough

  3. Being TOO Aggressive

  4. Not Closing Things Out Well

We'll take a brief look at each of these categories and how they can trip you up just below.


#1: Waiting for the "Right Moment"

Are there really some moments and some angles that are better for approaching women than others?

Yes, there certainly are.

Is it prudent to wait for these when you're still learning how to approach a girl?

No, it certainly is not.

Why not though?

What it comes down to is the expert eye. Throw a pro baseball player up at bat, and he can sit back and not swing at pitches he knows aren't good. But then, when a great pitch comes along, he spots it a mile away and swings and connects and knocks it out over the fence.

Throw a rookie up at bat though, and tell him it's fine to sit back and wait for the right pitch to come along, and he'll collect strike outs all day long. What's the difference? The pro's already paid his due and swung at thousands of different pitches - and his brain's learned how to tell the difference. The rookie may think he knows - but he doesn't... otherwise, he wouldn't pass up so many choice pitches.

There's another problem with rookies too:

  • Self-doubt,

  • Second thoughts, and

  • Hesitation.

That means, even if a rookie thinks he's seeing a good pitch, his brain switches into gear and asks, "Wait - is this actually a good pitch? Or is it a bad pitch and I'm mistaking it for a good one? Maybe I ought to just hold off on this one and see."

And whoosh - another great pitch goes screaming by.

The expert eye isn't just about screening bad angles and moments out. It's also about screening good angles and good moments in, and capitalizing on them.

When you're still relatively new - even if you're intermediate - you haven't developed either the eye OR the capacity for snapping into action after sitting and waiting.

Nothing is really "clear" to you until you've swung at thousands of pitches (or, approached thousands of women).

So, until you have several thousand approaches under your belt, remember this: you do not have the luxury of waiting for the "right moment."

Find the right girl - the one you want to approach - and just approach (we'll talk more about the mechanics of approaching below). And worry about the details later.


#2: Not Being Aggressive Enough

If you ask me, this is one of the biggest problems men face in sorting out how to approach a girl properly - they finally muster up the steel to go meet some pretty girl, and then they, a big ball of nerves, throw the ball continually in her court and leave it up to her to figure out what happens.

Bad mix for successful approaching.

Here's what an unaggressive (bad) approach looks like:

Guy: Hi there... I saw you walking here and had to come tell you, I think you're really cute. I'm Bill.

Girl: Oh! Hi Bill!

Guy: So, uh... what are you up to today?

Girl: I was just on my way to meet some friends for lunch.

Guy: Cool. [awkward pause]

Girl: ... and what are you doing out here on the street?

Guy: Oh, I'm just going to meet some friends too.

Girl: Okay. [awkward pause] Well, I guess I should go.

Guy: Okay - see you!

Now, pausing, properly used, is good (see: "Using the Pregnant Pause"). Awkward pausing, however, is bad... and plenty of guys do it plenty.

That's usually because they're nervous with women - which is understandable; they're inexperienced.

But it doesn't help their approaching any.

Instead, your aim when approaching a girl needs to be to move things along smoothly and briskly - from first meet to contact detail exchange (or invitation to accompany you some where on an instant date, if you're using one).

We'll get into doing this a lot more effectively below when we discuss building an approach process you can lean on to consistently meet girls easily - for now, I want to point out the error - that if you're continually throwing the ball in the girl's court, it usually won't go anywhere.

You're the man. You must lead.


#3: Being TOO Aggressive

This one's less common, though you'll see it more frequently with darker skinned guys - black guys, Latinos, Mediterranean guys, and men from India and the Middle East. Like not being aggressive enough, being TOO aggressive is also a rookie mistake - although it's a better rookie mistake than a lack of aggression, because the failure here comes through trying hard and not succeeding, rather from not trying out of nervousness or fear (and, consequently, having a harder time really knowing where the mistake is and not improving as quickly).

Being too aggressive in how you approach a girl can range anywhere from the very first thing you say to her, like catcalls -

Damn, girl, that is one fine set of legs you got on you! Come on over here and say hello - don't be shy!”

Or it can be things you say to her during the conversation -

Guy: What's your name, baby?

Girl: Tiffany.

Guy: Tiffany... that is a beautiful name, like a Tiffany's necklace. Your mama picked that name out for you?

Girl: Actually, it was my grandmother's.

Guy: All right, all right. So what's a gorgeous girl like you doing sitting all by her lonesome in a coffee shop like this?

Girl: I'm just taking a break from work... that's all.

Guy: Work? Let me tell you... a woman who looks like you should be IMMUNE from having to work! It's a CRIME that you should have to work! But where do you work, anyway?

Girl: You know, I'd really just rather relax a little bit and have my coffee and then get back to work. Sorry... I'm just not in a very social mood today.

Guy: Okay, I get you, it's all right. Tell you what, why don't you and me plan on meeting up again when you ARE in a more social mood - say after work tonight or tomorrow?

Girl: I can't. Sorry. It was nice meeting you!

Guy: Okay, okay. I'll talk to you later, girl. Oh, but actually-

Girl: No - I really can't.

Guy: Okay, okay. Later.

Here, the error is in being too forward about how impressed you are with her / her looks, etc., without her having done anything to earn that kind of reception yet. There's no "courtship dance" here - it's more like a courtship bludgeoning.

This does work sometimes - but only with girls who were sold on you before you ever said "hello," and normally only with women who are lower than you on the looks and status scales.

By being too aggressive, you won't miss out on dating entirely, like the guy who isn't aggressive enough often will - but you will most likely end up only dating down.

We'll talk more about being smooth in your approach when we get into details later in this post.


#4: Not Closing Things Out Well

Ever approach a girl and have things go great, only to have the end drag out and drag out to the point the whole interaction ended up ruined?

That's a failure to close things out well.

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It's great when you hit the ball hard and send it flying out over the field, but if you just stand there at home plate holding onto the bat, you're going to end up "out." You've got to close things out quickly and properly after you hit the ball - drop the bat and run for first base.

Same deal with approaching. If you pull off a great approach, and you aren't used to doing this, you may well end up standing around amazed and impressed with yourself. "Wow - I'm in a really good conversation with a really hot girl!"

Stay too impressed too long though and you'll end up like the guy who just stands there holding the bat watching the ball he hit soar up over the field. When the ball comes back down and they throw it to home, he's going to be "out."

And when the approach has run its course and you've dawdled for too long and not closed things out (either by getting the girl's phone number or by moving her somewhere to sit down or do something together or grab some food or a drink), it can very much end up being like hanging around too long at home plate marveling over your hit.

While the girl you're talking to won't exactly be throwing baseballs at your head, she will feel that the interaction has reached a natural end point... and then not ended.

It'll go from good to too long to awkward and uncomfortable. She'll have been expecting you'd ask her out and ask her for her number... but then when the time for that has passed and it hasn't happened she'll have switched to dreading it (as an uncomfortable, awkward situation) instead. (The awkwardness comes from her thinking you were an amazing, fascinating guy right up until the escalation window getting missed, then her thinking increasingly that actually you're a nervous guy who doesn't know how to do things properly with women and it makes her think anything with you going forward will be similarly awkward - bad scenario)

How do you know the right time to end an approach and close things out with a phone number or moving this girl you've just met onto the next stage of the interaction?

Let's have a look.


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If you've read those articles referenced at the start of this post, you know you'll typically want to incorporate into your approaches the following qualities:

  1. You act decisively to meet women and brush past any nervousness or hesitation

  2. You move fast and smartly while in an interaction with women, and don't let things hang unnecessarily

  3. You're focused on getting results - compliance, investment, phone numbers, dates - and not worried quite as much about reactions (laughing, flirting, teasing, etc.)

  4. You're aware of the fragility of attraction and attraction's expiration date, and that pushing things off into the future often means you don't get them

  5. You're aware that your attractiveness is in large part results minus effort - how big is your impact on how little effort

So how do all that?

I'm going to arm you with ten (10) steps to take for any approach you make:

  1. Spot a girl you want to talk to

  2. DON'T make eye contact

  3. Position yourself near her

  4. Pre-open her

  5. Open her

  6. Introduce yourself

  7. Engage in some light banter

  8. Get some early investment

  9. Build some rapport

  10. Close and get out, or move things along

Any or maybe even all of these you'll be able to bend, break, change around, or do as you like once you've got your own method down and can approach with ease and confidence on command... but until you reach that point, you'll want to stick to these like glue.

Here they are - the mechanics on how to approach a girl simply, easily, and successfully.


#1: Spot a Girl You Want to Talk to

There is a form of approaching - usually called "mass approaching" or "shotgun opening" - where you don't bother looking for women you want to meet, and instead you just move through a crowd (usually at a big party or in a bar or nightclub or a very crowded city street or shopping mall) and say hello to and strike up conversations with every woman you encounter.

This usually doesn't work well at all, because your approaches are totally untargeted, and your interaction with each woman is generic and unremarkable. Girls can tell, and that usually means the end of an interaction. If we take the novice baseball player again, the similar example here would be a guy who just swings wildly at every pitch, eyes closed. You're swinging in the dark.

Instead, what you want to do consistently with your approaches is know exactly what girl you're walking up to meet. Is it the blonde, or the brunette? The black girl, the Asian girl, or the redhead? Are you trying to talk to that cute girl who's been staring at you, or are you trying to talk to the entire group of people she's with? (incidentally, I don't have much love for "group theory" - talk to the girl you like, not the group of people she's with)


#2: DON'T Make Eye Contact

If you're an eye contact pro, you can skip this one.

If you're anything but that though, it's mandatory.

Why no eye contact? Isn't eye contact a part of the flirting process? Why, yes it is... but if you don't handle it exactly right, you'll start off your approach in pursuit. You'll be chasing her... and that means you'll be in the disadvantaged position.

Instead of her not knowing how your status relates to hers, and having to find out... or better still, her being the one in the chase position, trying to impress you... she'll have seen you looking at her and will see you approach, and you'll now find yourself slotted into the same box as 99% of the other men who walk up to her, and you'll be on stage with the microphone doing your very best to be impressive.

Not where you want to be.

Instead, skip the eye contact - catch glimpses of her using your peripheral vision, and close in for the kill (the approach) that way.

You can look her in the eyes once the two of you are talking.

More on eye contact, if you're interested in the topic:


#3: Position Yourself Near Her

This one's a fun one. Before you can begin talking to her, obviously, you've got to be near her.

And it's a lot easier to do this while minding sprezzatura than you might suspect.

I have plenty of stories I can tell you here - about approaching women in nearly-empty venues, where I got up from wherever I was, drifted around for a minute or so, acted as if I was looking at something interesting, then made my way slowly back through the area until I walked right by where the girl was.

I've taken students out, pointed out a woman for them to approach, had them tell me there was no way they could approach her without it looking awkward, and then told them exactly how to walk by then suddenly "notice" her there as they were on their way to something else.

The main gist is, you focus yourself on something past the girl you want to meet, and start moving towards that - and only as you're about to pass her do you "notice" her, stop, and proceed to start talking to her.

Think this sounds too contrived? It works. I've taken plenty of girls to bed doing this, and I've had students replicate it as well. Even more than that though - I initially got it from women themselves. Women are masters at this - whenever you've had women "accidentally" hover nearby you or walk directly into your field of vision, "distractedly" focused on or looking at something else, most of the time, that's actually intentional.

It's an invitation for you to talk to them.

This is just that in reverse - you doing it back to women. Only, instead of waiting for them to engage you, it'll be you who first engages them.


#4: Pre-Open Her

If you're not familiar with this term, I very much recommend you check out the article on pre-opening.

Then long and short of it is, women open a lot more consistently for you and much warmer and friendlier to you when you get them looking at you first.

That is to say, if, immediately before you start talking to her, a girl is looking at your eyes before you start looking at hers.

As covered in that article, there are a couple of ways you can go about this:

  • Give her a firm-but-gentle nudge when next to her (without making eye contact with her)

  • Leave a lingering touch on her (without making eye contact with her)

  • Glance in her direction, smile, and look away (without making eye contact with her)

Once you have her attention and she's looking at you, you then return eye contact with her and begin to speak (deliver your opener).

Simple, right? And it takes all of a couple of seconds.

But the benefit is, it makes opening worlds easier - both in terms of apprehension (you'll feel a lot less nervous about pre-opening first and beginning to talk only once you have her attention than you will about popping in front of her and laying into your spiel) and in terms of reception (it simply feels a lot more natural, both for her and for you, to open this way - it's warmer, sexier, and more personal).

If you're not pre-opening already, you need to start - it's an instant success rate boost.


#5: Open Her

Here's the part where you actually start talking.

There are a variety of openers you can use - some of the articles where we've talked about your options here in detail:

Obviously, there's a fair amount of material here purely on opening alone.

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If you need something simple to get started with though, here's a quick selection of things you can say:

  • Hi. (an old standby)

  • How's your day/night going?

  • Excuse me... I saw you standing/sitting/walking here, and I just had to come tell you that you are incredibly cute.

  • Going anywhere exciting? (when waiting for transportation)

  • So what do you think of working at [company name] / going to school at [school name]? (when in class / at the office)

Just about anything will serve as an opener, realistically - when I was still fairly new to approaching girls, in mid-2006 or so, I'd use, "Wow, your earrings are crazy!" and it would work great for me back then. (Nowadays I think that's a terrible opener, but I really liked it then, and the most important thing about the opener is what you're communicating via your nonverbals, your voice tone, and other fundamentals - rather than the words you're saying)

So pick something you like - something you feel comfortable with - and use that, and you'll almost certainly do fine.


#6: Introduce Yourself

There is some school of thought in the men's dating advice community that it's better for the girl to ask your name than it is for you to just give it to her - that way you can use it to gauge her interest. To which I say, "Rubbish!" You want to give her your name as soon as possible. You don't need to gauge her interest, anyway - whenever you try moving things forward with her, you'll find out how interested she is real quick.

Giving her your name quickly does a couple of good things for you:

  • It breaks the "stranger" barrier and gives you a name - you are now a "real" person to her

  • It makes it clear your intention is not to simply trade a few lines of conversation and slip away back into the night, but that you are, rather, interested in genuinely establishing rapport

  • It circumvents the increasingly awkward situation that arises when you get into a longer and longer conversation without either of the people knowing one another's name - believe it or not, you can actually reach a point where it's too awkward to ask you for your name, but it's too awkward to keep talking much longer without knowing it, too. At that point, women usually exit a conversation

Introducing yourself is simple: if you're using a direct opener, introduce yourself immediately after the opener (before she's even responded) - you additionally use the introduction to keep things moving and prevent any discomfort if she isn't sure how to respond to the compliment.

That looks like this:

Guy: Hi there... I saw you walking here and had to come tell you, I think you're really cute. I'm Bill.

Girl: Oh! Hi Bill!

Guy: And what do they call you?

Girl: I'm Amy.

Guy: Hi Amy.

And, with any other kind of opener, introduce yourself as soon as she contributes to the conversation in some moderately substantial way. That is, she tells a joke, or asks you something that's more than just her being polite - anything like that. In this way, you cast your introduction as a social reward - you're telling her your name because she's contributing to the conversation now, too.

That looks like this:

Guy: How's your night going?

Girl: So so.

Guy: Just getting started, huh?

Girl: Yeah... we'll see what happens. How's yours?

Guy: Give me a Jack-Coke and a little electronic music and I'm good.

Girl: Do you like house music?

Guy: It's grown on me over the years, yeah. I'm Bill.

Girl: I'm Amy.

Guy: Hi Amy.

(you'll notice the repetition and saying back to her of her name - if this is the first time you're meeting her, this is a great memory aid; the mind's a lot more likely to remember a name the mouth has used at least a few times already than one it's merely passively heard)


#7: Engage in Some Light Banter

While you never want to veer into the realm of comedian and entertainer, and never want to make making girls laugh the center point of your approach, a little light banter to kickoff a conversation goes a long way.

Most women appreciate it - it's a way of communicating that:

  1. You're relaxed (nervous men don't banter)

  2. You're sociable (humor requires a good understanding of social norms)

  3. You probably won't be a social burden (e.g., you'll listen to her signals)

In other words, early banter sets women's minds at ease about you. It helps them open up to you, be receptive to you, and lower their guards to your approach.

Light banter can be as simple as picking out one (harmless) thing to give her a gentle ribbing over. Like:

“You don't think it's a little warm for scarves right now?”

... said in a playful tone with a wry, knowing smile on your face. Or:

“What do you think it says about us that we're a couple of 30 year olds in a place full of recent college grads?”

... said similarly.

This is flirting - but of course, don't go too far and tease girls too much; a little bit here and there is good, but this isn't the foundation of your interaction. It's just something to get you started, and onto the next step.


#8: Get Some Early Investment

You want to be getting compliance from the get-go - the more, the better, generally. Having women invest in you solidifies their connection to an interaction.

If a girl isn't investing, she'll begin to feel like this is a conversation she doesn't want to be in.

If she is investing, she'll begin feeling like she wants this thing to move forward and she wants to get somewhere with you, instead.

Early investment you can get with women includes:

  • Locking in - when you lock in, she's taking the "outside" position to keep talking to you, which is an investment by her in the interaction

  • Physical compliance - things like having her give you her hand (so you can inspect her ring or bracelet), lean in (to show you her necklace or earrings or hair coloring), spin around, hand you something, move for you or with you, etc.

  • Deep diving - once you're into deep rapport - and we'll talk about this in #9, too - and she's telling you about herself, her life, her dreams, her motivations, her past, and more, she is working to answer your questions and go into things about herself she doesn't tell most people. This is investment on her part too

There are so many different little things you can do to get early investment that you can easily pick and choose whichever ones suit you best. The only thing you really need to do is remember to get this investment in the first place.


#9: Build Some Rapport

This is where deep diving really comes into its own.

Depending on how you're doing your approaching, you'll want to build either a lot of rapport, or a little rapport. It breaks down generally like this:

  • If you approach a girl to get a phone number and set up a date for later, you'll only want to build a little rapport - enough to get her interested in talking to you, but not so much that there's a big emotional buildup that goes disappointingly unreleased when you simply take her number and walk away

  • If you approach a girl on the other hand with the object of making things happen immediately - e.g., you're going to see how far you can take this interaction today or tonight, and see if you can keep things moving right up until she comes to your place or you go to her place - then you'll want to get a lot of rapport going - as much as you can, really

There's a plethora of resources to tap on this site about building rapport:

But if you need the quick and dirty version, here are the main points:

  1. You want the women you meet doing most of the talking - not you

  2. You want to be feeding back to women the things that they're saying as they talk

  3. You want to keep the focus on deep, meaningful things - the "why"s and "how"s about a girl's life, much more so than the "what"s

  4. You want to thread-cut bad topics and encourage good ones - things like dreams, motivations, emotions, desires

  5. You want to periodically "come up for air" when discussing heavy topics - sprinkle a little humor in at times to keep things airy and prevent yourself and this new girl you've just met from sinking into the depths over overbearing conversation. You can do this with chase framing, or any kind of humor you can muster that fits the situation and the conversation

  6. You want to keep talking about yourself to a minimum, without being dodgy or evasive - still do talk about yourself, but don't reveal everything when you do, and be mysterious and intriguing

  7. You want to continually turn the conversation back to the girl you're talking to - never let the spotlight linger on you for too long (lest she get bored - she'd much rather be talking about herself, and that makes things much easier for you, too)


#10: Close and Get Out, or Move Things Along

If you want to avoid our error #4 above - not closing things out well - that means you'll need to be moving quickly and capitalizing on a good interaction, by doing one of two things:

  • Proposing the two of you meet again (a date), grabbing her contact details, and saying goodbye, or

  • Deciding you're going to see how far you can go with her right now, and getting things moving - to sitting down somewhere to talk first, and back to your place or her place a little later

In many situations - at work; at school; at some social function where she knows a lot of people and can't quietly slip away - the second option is going to be impractical, and you'll normally have to settle for proposing a date and grabbing her contact information. And that's fine. Other times, you might approach a girl expressly with the purpose of trying to pull her home with you then and there - at a bar, for instance, or on the street.

Either of these options is very okay, so long as you take one of them. Don't ruin a great interaction by hanging around too long past the point where you're supposed to squeeze the trigger and make things happen.

It's common in newer guys to reach that point - to hit the escalation window - where they know they're supposed to do something, but they get nervous about switching gears, so they stay doing what's comfortable - continuing to talk to this girl they have some great rapport going on with. But an interaction with a new girl is something that's in constant motion - and if you aren't too, you'll soon be left behind.

Here's a general rule and hard limit to help keep you focused and effective in your approaches: by the 10-minute mark, you must either propose a date, trade numbers, and leave, OR you must invite this girl to sit with you or (if you're on the street or in a mall) come join you for a coffee / hot chocolate / ice cream.

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If you're meeting her on the street, you'll usually want to cut this down to about 5 minutes maximum. If she's a girl you're talking to in class, at work, or at a social convention, and both of you are already sitting down, you can bump this up to about 15 minutes, assuming you both have the time.

Make sure you're closed out or escalating things on up by that time, and you'll keep the pace brisk - and her interest in you, and desire to do things again with you in the future, warm.


How to Approach a Girl Anywhere: Recap

We just covered a lot of information on a process that's going to last all of 10 minutes, maximum. The idea is though, by going in-depth on each of these steps, you can get yourself consistently hitting pitches out of the park - or at least batting singles, and making it to first base without standing around waiting to be tagged out.

To review, here are the 4 big mistakes that most commonly hamper a man's approach:

  1. Waiting for the "right moment"
  2. Not being aggressive enough
  3. Being TOO aggressive
  4. Not closing things out well

... and here are the 10 steps to take with every approach you make, anywhere:

  1. Spot a girl you want to talk to
  2. DON'T make eye contact
  3. Position yourself near her
  4. Pre-open her
  5. Open her
  6. Introduce yourself
  7. Engage in some light banter
  8. Get some early investment
  9. Build some rapport
  10. Close and get out, or move things along

Follow those steps, and you won't have to worry about waiting for the right moment, your levels of aggressiveness will be handled automatically, and you'll know to close things out (or get her moving) as soon as you hit your time limit for an interaction.

Follow those steps, and you get to be a breath of fresh air for all the women tired of being approached by men who aren't following those steps... and are making those big mistakes we talked about not making, instead.

Many happy approaches,
Chase Amante

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Funman's picture

some questions


Hey Chase,

Love the new site. Some questions.

Dating coaches do not suggest the idea of complimenting the girl unless it is part of their opener. They think it makes a guy look needy/ weak etc.

However, my understanding is neediness has nothing to do with complimenting or over complimenting. I feel women want and appreciate compliments from a sexy/ strong man. (something you teach in your articles :)

1) How can a guy make the woman feel as if she is the most beautiful & sexy girl in the world when she is in his presence in that moment?

2) What hobbies/ skills would make a guy sexy? Can you list some?

I am assuming cooking, dancing, speaking foreign languages, playing any particular musical instrument?

3) What hobbies you have which women find sexy?

Funman

Chase Amante's picture

Focus / Hobbies

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Funman-

Glad to hear it - good to see you 'round these parts again.

On making a girl feel like she's his complete focus and very sexy / desirable, you want strong focus, rapt attention, and the building of sexual tension. See these posts for more:

On hobbies, generally anything that you've reached a high degree of skill with is very impressive to women. So, if I tell a girl I'm a published author, or I let her see a sample of my writing, or I let her listen to some of my old music, or I sing (I actually I have a pretty impressive singing voice, or so women tell me), girls end up floored. If they see me make some crazy shots playing basketball, you can see a measurable boost in attraction. If they see me out-debate someone or (back when I used to rap) trounce someone in a freestyle battle, they swoon. Anything where you're clearly the top dog and running laps around the competitors makes women excited about you.

Some I've seen give large attraction boosts to guys who have them (that I haven't personally mastered) include dancing, surfing, piano-playing (and I'm guessing any instrument played well works here too, but piano's the only one I've actually seen), and sometimes fighting.

Foreign languages and cooking don't usually seem to make the cut, probably because they're much more common things for men to do / be good at, and probably also because it's very difficult to tell mastery there. If you spice one of those up a bit, you might be able to pull it off - whispering some French or Italian in her ear, or serving her a remarkably well-presented meal (the difference between top restaurants and everybody else is almost entirely presentation) can be very sexy too, although they're qualitatively a different sort of sexy than the kind of sexy you get with having mastered something.

Chase

Fox's picture

Preopen


On preopening, I never understood what you meant by don't make eye contact with her.

Do I nudge her, and look straight off in whatever direction my body is, not making eye contact with her?

Do I talk before I make eye contact with her? Do I nudge her, wait, look up, then talk to her?

Chase, I want to get preopening down but I feel you're not giving much detail here!

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Pre-Opening Eye Contact

Author

Fox-

Sorry for any confusion.

When you first make contact, you want a kind of dreamy / half-open look about your eyes. So, you're somewhat staring off into space, but in a contemplative, thoughtful way.

You'll then make eye contact either A) just after she looks at you, before you begin talking, if she turns her head relatively quickly and you can tell she's being attentive, or B) after you've spoken a few words, then paused to build interest, if she turned her head very slowly and is acting like she's patronizing you.

On that last, here's an example: you make contact with her, staring dreamily off into space, and she looks at you... slowly. You begin, "You know..." you trail off. Then, you turn to face her, and let a smile spread very slowly and knowingly across your face, "... they say drinking alcohol means you're more sociable than average." Then you'd just hold eye contact and wait for her response - and after that, go from there.

Chase

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Working Girls


I made this comment on another article, but it is much more relevant here.

Girls that are working, i.e. store clerk. Differences in your plan- what are they?

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Girls at Work

Author

Bungnasty-

Interesting handle.

These girls can be a bit more difficult - they're in autopilot mode, they're used to customers hitting on them. At the same time, they also have long, dreary days much of the time, and if you're coming in with good fundamentals and you're a sexy, attractive guy, you may just pique their interest and have you hoping you'll ask them out.

Some quick tips for now are to keep it short, a little flirty, but be relatively discreet - if other people around pick up that you're picking up, they'll give her a hard time about this, and she knows this and wants to avoid it, so if it's very obvious she'll have to turn you down - no choice. Do what you'd normally do, but compress it into a 1- or 2-minute window, and do it lower key.

I'll jot this one down for treatment in a proper post at some point - meantime, if you're interested in exploring this one further, there was a post on the boards the other day by one of the members there who talks in some detail about how he's meeting girls in shops here.

Chase

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Awesome


Thanks Chase! Recommended the website to a fellow I follow on Tumblr; he believes a lot of what you teach and was impressed with the layout. Hopefully I got you a new reader. :)

- Knight

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Recommendation

Author

Thanks for the recommendation, Knight! Cool to hear too that someone first seeing the site thought it had a good layout - nice to get an outside opinion (other than guys I already know, guys who were already frequenting the site, etc.).

Chase

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"courtship bludgeoning" Great


"courtship bludgeoning"

Great term, love it!

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Deep Rapport and Cementing Emotion


Hey Chase,

Another Great article you churn these things out left and right man! THis one was so info packed I'm finding myself reading it again and again which is a great thing. One idea that was running through my head while reading this post was this concept of cementing emotion.

You mentioned it in your girls chase book but its a brief but very interesting section. I've always wanted to know how to deliver those "Wow what a connection we have" lines.

I was thinking about it the whole time I read this post, because I was noticing more and more that I'd get to step 9 or 10 and flame out there. Like I'd deep dive too much and "break the spell."

And I've been wracking my braind trying to understand what I was doing there but then I remembered your section on cementing emotions. So, I've been reading up on that and your spell broken article.

Would love to hear more thoughts on this man, it's a fascinating aspect of game. Beecause I've cemented certain emotions in women and have been fascinated with myself. Like WTF! where did that come from.

Anyways man just wanted to drop a line there about that. Maybe I'll add another to the list of article ideas with this one ;) hahaha

The Loyal reader extraordinaire,

JFav

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Cementing Emotion

Author

J-

Glad you found worthy of a few reads! Yeah, staying too deep too long can be awkward - the instinct when it's still relatively new for you is when you finally get that deep, you want to keep things deep, the mind assuming that if you can just keep things that deep and intimate, all you have to do now is steer the interaction to where you and the girl are alone somewhere and you're set. But the reality is, the deeper you go, the bigger you blow up the bubble, and the easier it is to burst with the slightest amount of friction. You do better repeatedly letting some air out of that bubble so it never gets so big it pops.

I can write something on cementing emotion - sure. I'll add it on the list - maybe do a joint NLP / cementing emotion post, someone else was asking about that, and the two are related.

Chase

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Road map


Hey Chase, nice to see all the new articles posted.
I'm just stopping by to show appreciation for this one being a convenient road map for the order in which to do things. I love it. See, in the past, when reading I absorbed all the info but wasnt sure which order to do things in infield. I'm going to try to remember this road map and see some better results ;)
Also, love the advice on NOT making eye contact. I noticed that I do that when I ask people for the time, so I really relate to that.

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Roadmap

Author

Wes-

Happy to hear this one serves as a clearer roadmap. This one's really another "process" piece, with a "do these things in this order" structure. You don't want to feel like you have to follow the same strict process too religiously - but when you're unsure what step comes next, it tends to help a lot.

Chase

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Introducing yourself


Would it be a good idea to shake hands and say "nice to meet you" after you exchange names?

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Shaking Hands

Author

Dylan-

Yes, absolutely.

I'm a fan of distinctive / meaningful shakes, myself - I don't "shake," but rather put my hand out, palm up, and take a girl's hand in mine and simply hold it, with a "Nice to meet you," and a warm smile. You can wait for her to let go - sometimes they never do, and you immediately get into a very sexually charged, electric conversation - and let your hands slip off each other rather seductively.

It's a nice way to get some initial contact going on, break the tension gap, and communicate right away that you aren't like other men - no masculine shaking of hands here.

Chase

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attainability observation


Chase,

You've got more knowledge on social and people skills than 99.9 percent of anyone will understand. There's nothing more gratifying than the ability to help others achieve lengths simply by understanding how to handle and commuCarnegiee with people!

With only one ear to hear from my journey has been quite different from what might be "normal". Growing up I had been made fun of because I couldn't hear well! I've always had girls around because I'm different and got the natural good looks. I've moved to slow countless times due to the fear of rejection.

2 years ago and frustrated at both my sex and personal life I made a decision to fight and be the best that I can! About that time I've stumbled across your site Chase, and 2 books, "how to win friends and influence people", and "the definitive book of body language".

I've worked on the fundamentals to a point where most women get nervous and wide eyed during an approach allowing me to calm down a bit. It seems that the better the fundamentals are the more important being direct and moving fast becomes. My confidence has swung up and down until that simple understanding.

Anyone that has their base taken care of start moving aggressively forward until you're stopped, then persist! Your life will forever change, I promise!

You've changed my life Chase, maybe I'll run into you one day

Gnco

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Attainability with Good Fundamentals

Author

Gnco-

Wonderful to hear how you’ve turned it around from where you started out – and glad for the part I’ve and this site have contributed to that. From what I’ve seen, a lot of the guys who end up working hard to get things down – with women, with business, with an art or a sport or any other kind of hobby – come from either a background where they were driven to by parents from an early age, or from a background where they started out disadvantaged or marginalized in some way, but instead of breaking (like a lot of people do) they used that disadvantage or marginalization as fuel to start achieving more, then more, then more.

Eventually they pass their more “normal” peers, but now that they’ve gotten into the habit of achieving and succeeding, it is who they have become and they cannot (or don’t want to) stop. Eventually they achieve more than the people who started off with a bigger head start than they did do. Tortoise and hare, I suppose you’d say – you catch the hares napping, content in their presumed victory.

You’re absolutely right that the stronger your fundamentals get the more you can’t be seen to dance around the bush or dilly-dally. Girls give some slack to guys who don’t have it quite as tight – they know these guys aren’t pros. But for a guy who strikes her as charming, attractive, and compelling, the assumption is he knows exactly what he’s doing with women – and if he doesn’t capitalize on interest, or he feigns disinterest too much, she assumes he’s toying with her and isn’t really interested… or maybe he’s even insulting her. It’s almost a curse when you’re starting out – if your fundamentals are too far ahead of your process, you can get a lot of girls blowing up and walking off because they thought you were going to do something, you didn’t, and they assumed that if someone as solid as you isn’t taking action, it’s not that he doesn’t know what to do – it’s that he does know, but doesn’t want to do it.

It’s quite a boon as you improve, though – you get women a lot more willing to move quickly with you, and who are a lot more honest with you since they think you can take it, won’t judge them, and probably aren’t a long term candidate anyway (guys THAT good with women don’t stick around with just one girl, they know/assume), so why bother trying to hide anything or slow it down for the sake of appearances?

Anyway, I can see a lot of ways you could turn having only one working ear to your advantage – e.g., telling a girl, “That ear doesn’t work; you’ll have to talk into this one,” throws her mildly off balance and rips her out of auto-pilot, gets you instant investment as she follows your command and changes ears, builds intrigue (“Oh – why doesn’t his ear work? Was he in a war or an explosion or an accident or something? Some kind of warrior?”), and communicates your nonchalance about something unusual right out of the bat – which, of course, only makes you more interesting.

Chase

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Approaching a girl with a guy/guys


Hey chase, I was just wondering about how one should go about approaching a girl who is in conversation with another man/men. I'm not sure if you've covered this yet in another article, but I am having a difficult time figuring out what I should do to approach girls in conversation, especially with other guys. I wouldn't be cock blocking, because I can tell they are friend-zoned the majority of the time. Regardless, I have not tried because I am unsure of how to do it. Should I meet them and immediately move them without acknowledging the guy, or would that be thought of as rude?

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Re: Approaching a girl with a guy/guys

Author

Mark-

The ideal is if you have a wingman with you who can occupy the other guy(s) while you get to know the girl. You can pick up some girls in pretty tight situations this way - the other guys will usually feel socially obligated to talk to your friend, or, if they're just friends and have no illusions about it, they may often feel happy to have someone new to talk to.

Generally, you do not want to interact with the other guy(s) unless your girl introduces you to them - and even then, just cursory, polite interaction. It should be crystal clear to everyone there you're there just to meet her - not to be social.

If it's a sticky situation, sometimes it's best to just talk for a few minutes, propose the two of you meet another time, and grab contact details. However, a surprising amount of the time if you meet a girl out with one platonic male friend, the girl will actually be out "hunting" and just has the guy with her so she doesn't have to go out alone, and the guy will (coolly) peel off and go look for a girl of his own if she seems happy with you. She's also getting approached far less, because most men won't approach women with men, which also helps make her more receptive to your approach. Girls with guy friends tend to pretty consistently be more relaxed about getting together with new men - they're worth your getting accustomed to approaching.

Chase

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Girl on my morning run


Hi Chase,

I take a run every morning. For the last couple of days I've seen this pretty girl walking on my street. She won't make eye contact, when I run next to her. I'd like to talk to her next time I see her. What would u suggest would be an appropriate approach? Wat do I say? And how?

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