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Shotgun Opening and Reopening Women Later in the Night

Today I want to talk about two different but related kinds of opening:

  • Shotgun opening, and
  • Reopening

You'll mostly use these with women in social nighttime venues (bars and clubs, parties, networking events), but they're practical by day as well, in the right places (charity events or rallies, beach parties, barbecues and cookouts).

Shotgun opening coupled with reopening is an effective one-two punch for talking to lots of girls while not getting overly bogged down in go-nowhere conversations with women who are only interested in you socially, rather than romantically. This is how you work the crowd and build a foundation in social events that you build on later into the evening.

shotgun opening and reopening

Done right, you'll frequently find yourself with a bunch of women who already know you and are comfortable with you and who may even be actively chasing you later into the night, when their walls are up to other men just beginning to approach them fueled by liquid courage (that is, alcohol), who will be standing around wondering how you're getting such warm receptions with all these gals while they face one cold shoulder after another.

Shotgun opening + reopening is how.

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Chase woke up one day in 2004 tired of being alone. So, he set to work and read every book he could find, studied every teacher he could meet, and talked to every girl he could talk to to figure out dating. After four years, scads of lays, and many great girlfriends (plus plenty of failures along the way), he launched this website. He will teach you everything he knows about girls in one single program in his Mastery Package.

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Marty's picture

Hello Chase,

This is another very insightful article and I particularly enjoyed reading your ideas about preemptive disengagement and nonchalance when a girl goes off to do her own thing. Thinking about past social-event interactions where I have had a (relatively) successful outcome, what they all have in common is that I started out exactly this way, reengaging much, much later and getting a relaxed and warm reception—I think I felt instinctively that this was right, though my process was too poor to go through with the full close.

I was amused to see your three-step tableaux on a girl's thought process! This seems to imply that she regards herself psychologically as "superior" to men, or most men in any case. Is that common, do you believe?

If that's the case, it certainly refutes the traditional feminist view that men are the ones who regard themselves as superior!

-Marty

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Marty-

I think, especially among women who go to bar / club / party environments, it's almost impossible for most women to NOT view themselves as "superior", to some extent or another, to most men. Imagine if every time you went out, undesirable women (old? fat? ugly? ... these are all female equivalents of clueless, unsavvy, unattractive men) started getting drunk and hitting on you like crazy, and wouldn't take "no" for an answer, so you'd have to start acting either really cold/rude or excusing yourself to go find your friends or head to the bathroom, and keep skirting around the club to get away from clueless girls you didn't want throwing themselves at you, wasting your time and dragging your social status down with them.

It isn't a case of feeling like they're superior to ALL men... it's more a case of becoming conditioned by men to expect that they're superior to many of the men there - but the men they want to meet are not those men. No woman wants to be with a man she feels superior to in the status and desirability hierarchy. Nobody wants to hang out with someone who's a loser, and when guys act like losers, women assume they just are (they might be really cool guys, and just suck at meeting girls in clubs, but walk like a duck and talk like a duck, and people are going to think you're a duck...).

You'll also notice that women who don't go to nighttime venues where they get surrounded by horny, drunk, clueless men that often (or at all) don't have nearly as much of a superiority complex than those that do, even if they are themselves much more beautiful or otherwise desirable than those girls hanging out in the club. It's pure reaction to the environment - when someone is repeatedly treated like a princess, she starts to feel like she is; and when she isn't, she doesn't.

But even the women who are surrounded by men chasing after them long for men who are stronger than them, although they often have difficulty dealing with these men in a comfortable way - e.g., they flip out about not being in control, or auto-reject and go seeking the comfort and security of being demanded, even if by men they don't necessarily want. All the more reason to stick with dating girls you meet via day game than those you meet by night ;)

Chase

Anonymous's picture

Hey Chase.

I have been reading this site for quite some while now.
And as much as you have helped me, i have stumbled into a problem that i think is beyond fixing ( i hope it can be fixed )

I really need your help.

The thing is, it is not about one girl, it is about ALL Girls in my town.

I live in a small town, reputation plays the ultimate role in dating and seduction, relationships etc.
People here, both men and women are extremely attached to facebook.
So when i hit on a girl, either in real life or via facebook, she copies my profile and sends it to her friends, known girls etc, asking about me, and if the word isn`t good, well, i don`t get the girl.

Now i admit, i have done some pretty lame and stupid things in the past, i have said some hefty sum of bad words when i was really ignorant, arrogant and heck of a lot of bitter.

I have changed since then, but the reputation stays the same.

I think i have a really damaged reputation, i may be known as a nice person but when it comes to women i am simply the one that no one would want to have.

I think it is that kind of a situation and here where people ( especially women ) are really attached to facebook, they get information almost instantly.

Now i am not planning on sticking in this town forever, i am planning on moving out soon ( 3 years to be exact ) but in the meantime i want to have girls, lovers, girlfriends etc.

How can i do that with such a damaged reputation?
How do i proceed from here, what should i do, what should i think, what kind of mentality should i adopt?

I really am clueless at this point, i don`t want to spend my next three years alone with just this reading material here.
I do read a lot from this site and i do apply it, it works wonders, but i guess my bad reputation is in my way.

I have asked you once before and you said "to keep a lid on such bad voices", but that is one or two things that are said, this is a whole another ball park, here we are talking about years and years of things done that build reputation.

I am looking forward to your answer, even if it does not help much.

Anything i can have at this point will be a bonus in terms of help.

Thanks again.
All the best.

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Anon-

That's a really sticky problem, and I can't say it's one I've dealt with or can think of any easy answers for.

If you could magically teleport yourself away for a few years, starting today, and just approach like crazy and socialize like crazy and meet tons of different people and get a large bunch of numbers, dates, lays, and girlfriends, you could go back to your town with even a bad reputation and have it change for you in a short-ish amount of time, just because everyone would see how radically and genuinely different you'd become from how you used to be, and your old reputation no longer really applied that much. You'd still have some ghosts to combat, but you'd have a reasonably controllable time of it.

The problem with trying to turn things around in a small town where your reputation is already sunk, though, is that no one's going to give you those chances to learn what you need to learn to become somebody different. Kinda like if you lived in a small town with one basketball court, and it was always occupied, and the people playing games there had long since decided that you suck at basketball and don't get to play. If there's nowhere else you can practice, and your bridges are so badly burned that no one's going to give you an "in" to start playing around with and practicing, you're out in the cold.

If you had some means of reinventing yourself in town by taking on a cool new job (bartender, party promoter, etc.) that people respected you for, or hosting exclusive parties that people wanted access to, that could do the trick too, but if it's a small town, chances are there aren't many opportunities like this, and if it really is a small community and you're on the outside, there's a good chance if you throw a party, no one shows up.

The best recommendations I'd have would be to start looking for outlets outside of your town to practice socializing. If you have a car and can leave, do it. If you don't, sign up for online dating at least, and start chatting with women in different cities. If your'e out in the middle of nowhere and there's no one nearby, you might even post a profile in a random city you pick off a map, and pretend you've just moved to town, and make a game out of seeing how many women you can get to agree to a date, or how many you can get to give them your phone numbers. I wouldn't count on setting up dates this way, but at least you'll be interacting with women and honing some aspects of your skill set for when you can get out of there.

Who knows... if you start talking to women in different cities, you may even get a taste for which place has the friendliest women with the most welcoming vibe for you. Sometimes a little extra time to prepare for a move and really study all your options can be a worthwhile thing.

Chase

clark2345's picture

Chase,
is it true that girls find feminine looking guys more attractive?
cause I am not AT ALL feminine looking, will that play against me?
will girls find me less attractive?

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Clark-

According to this research, women who are ovulating (that is, fertile for impregnation) become significantly more attracted to men with masculine faces. Conversely, women who are not fertile tend to find less masculine and more feminine faces attractive.

According to this bit of research, men with masculine faces have a higher number of short-term sex partners than their peers. This study found that the more attractive a woman believed herself to be, the more masculine she preferred her men to be.

The only research I've seen about feminine faces being preferred in men was the one on non-ovulating women preferring more feminine faces, and one on women from more hygienic countries preferring more feminized men, while dirty / more dangerous third world countries have women who prefer manlier men. Even in the West though, fertile women and attractive women on the whole prefer masculine facial features to feminine ones.

Chase

Moonrayarc's picture

Sharp article!! i confirm it from my experience! having just few words with people and reopening them later feels like we've long time friends, and usually makes seduction smooth.
i have a question not related completely to the article. When joining a social circle, how to become an important member who is invited to all events and outings?

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Moonray-

I'd recommend these two articles - they should give you all the tools you need for this to get started:

Chase

Anonymous's picture

Hi Chase!

Have you written anything on how to read a girl's body language? I've found helpful observations here and there on this site, but I'd really like to have an overview to work with. I should point out I'm just getting my feet wet at trying to get girls. Should learning to read body language be a priority for me, or am I trying to take on too much too fast?

Thanks!

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Anon-

Yes, reading body language is important! It contains a LOT of extremely useful tips about where you need to take your interactions and how well you're doing or whether you need to change courses.

There are a few articles on the site that address this; check these out:

Chase

Michal's picture

Hi, Chase.
I was pondering about proving of our qualities to others the other day. I saw a girl in a lobby crying and all I was thinking was "if we were friends, I would totally made her feel much better" because for most girls I was this safety blanket. I wanted to go there, but I have never done anything like this to just try to calm a stranger because I am quite sure with wrong approach I could make it worse. Then I realized I want to a degree see my female friends in bad times because I would be able to show them my biggest quality. Which is quite selfish and not good but then I thought if this is programmed in all men. Some of us can pick perfect presents for their family or other friends, so they maybe try to win over a girl by buying them gifts and they do not see that you need to have a certain kind of relationship in order to have this work. But that is just my speculation. However, I realized how confident I am during these situations and it got me thinking how being a great leader would make me a much better leader because everytime someone would need a guidance I would feel confident about it and help them. And also as I have difficult time trying to work on these qualities because it is like going to that crying girl. I do not think I have enough experience and with wrong leadership and taking charge would cause damage. Which comes down to being afraid of a failure, now that I think about it... hmm. But I am more concerned with how it damages them, not me. I do not fear that they would not talk to me anymore or lose respect towards me. Just that I would make it worse for them.

My conclusion is that having some quality with women can be very harmful. Because "you are this way" and you want to show them your greatest aspect of your personality which lowers your chances if that quality is bad for the purpose of getting girls. Because being "great" and "able to help like noone else" as I heard many times makes you feel good about yourself for 2 hours and then this girl goes and laughs at you next day or even later that day for even suggesting that you guys could have a relationship. I mean it can be hard to just look at yourself objectively and realize that almost everything you need to get a girl is at 3% capacity and you need at least 70%. And I guess people either make a drastic change and stop showing particular quality or just quit trying, accept the fact that they are this way and at the end never really achieve what they want.

Michal

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Michal-

The ability to help and inspire others, make them feel better, and help them see things more clearly is a powerful ability to have. In no way is that a bad thing. However, it can be a distracting thing to have, if you get too caught up trying to white knight every moderately distressed person you see.

One of the hard things to have to learn when you're good at playing the hero role is when to rein it in and when to let it off the leash. The other thing to realize is that the people you really want in your life aren't usually the ones who are suffering and miserable - you want the people who are strong and successful, and probably don't need your help and support. Those are the people who will appreciate you for your own strength and view you as an equal and an ally, rather than the people who will use you for your time and energy, because you let yourself be used, who in turn provide little or nothing back.

Chase

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Hi, I have trouble with the actual opening in nightclubs, I don't know if it's because people here are differente (argentina) Or if I'm doing something wrong, but "Hows your night goin" (como va tu noche?) just seems kind of creepy, or awkward.
Like huh? what does this guy want? what's wrong? Or at least is the kind of face I get.I feel better using something situational, but I only can find something good 1 in 100 times.
Could the wording be the problem?
Is the shotgun opener "indirect"? How so? should I just be "friendly" even if it's seen as something awkward?

I usually see some guy just talking to a girl like: "how yo doing? oh nice and this and that", I can't shake the incredibly awkward feeling. Like that kind of guy who tries to talk to you and says "Oh you are that guy friend of X, This place is cool, what are you drinking oh cool who you've come with, ahm", and the only emotion I get is "I want to get away from this guy".

I've been going with 2 friends to the same few venues and I feel we got some kind of reputation/attention, girls actually approached us (one started dancing between us a few seconds, laughs nervous and then just stayed with us in our group, stuff like that, but apart from telling her a few words about a dance on a song, I couldn't get to a conversation. Also girls seem to walk past us and just hover right beside us, This just makes it very frustrating I can't get a word out of my mouth.

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Anon-

I haven't clubbed in Argentina yet, so I don't have insight into the cultural nuances there, unfortunately. I have heard that women in Argentina, and particularly in BA, are the most aloof women in all of South America... they tend to be very cool customers.

With, "How's your night going?", at least elsewhere in the world, this one's best used very casually in situations where you're relaxed somewhere (e.g., propped against the bar, a wall, etc.) and the girl is in very close proximity, or in a case like, say, she's walked up and started hovering right next to you. That's because this opener presumes that a conversation has more or less already "started" - that is, it's a way of acting as if she opened you first. If you walk straight up to a girl and ask her how her night's going, it feels "off" because you're acting like she initiated the interaction when it's very clear that you did.

In environments where the women act colder and more aloof, I tend to prefer direct myself, because 1.) it shows you have balls (every other guy is too intimidated there to go direct), and 2.) it screens the women who just aren't interested out extremely quickly. If 75% of women you open direct in a very "cold" environment just give you disinterested, aloof looks, but 25% of them are clearly interested, and 10% of them are VERY interested, you've just made your approaching that much easier.

My own strategy is, the harder the environment, the harder your game - more direct, more compliance, more touch, more dominance, more leadership. When you're in a very receptive place, you can mostly lean back and let the women come to you, and gently guide them out and back to your place. You can't get away with this in a place that's cold to you - in those environments, it's "play hard or go home (alone)."

Chase

Troy's picture

Hey Chase,

Very informative article. The only thing that came to mind before was to use pre-opening. How does this article link to doing street game? And could you do a comprehensive how to on street game and approaching?

i think you might refer me to other articles on here to read for my answer but ive read EVERY ARTICLE ON GIRLSCHASE.COM and i still havent seen how to do this street game.

re: im going to check out asian persians and the other guys advice.. field reports as you instructed and see what i can make of it so thanks for the links.

Ive had problems with using pre-opening on the road. Imagine im approaching girls walking/crossing the street/watching out for swinging cars and trying to focus on conversation e.t.c.

Its not a cake walk in my experience plus if i dont know what im doing exactly then there is a great risk i end up looking like a creep to every girl passing. Its not a fear of failure i think, its just that no matter what you still wouldnt want to go through 20+ rejections on the street just to find 1 girl to take a number/date/carry home.

Ive read Ricardus articles on day game and easy approaching but his article is not really a comprehensive "how- to-do-street-game".

Could you do an article on this?

Also i was wondering if you ever find it a bother and drag to constantly be having people on here requesting you to do an article? How much is too much requests from the same person?

Or is it a blessing to you that readers on here help make your mental work easier and give you article ideas to keep the site running?

Thanks!

Troy

Troy's picture

Hey Chase,

Regarding using the forum, im kind of confused as to how to use it. i read your posts on there to the begineers on how to use the forum but i have a few questions as how to maximize the forum benefits:

1) In all the mini forums (sex, journal e.t.c.) there are literally hundreds of topics to go through and find a post that can answer a question for me. could you have a view on there where i can view all the posts in list form so i can much faster go through and find the topic im looking for?

I have tried using the search button but most times i dont find what im looking for. and then its after i take the time and go through the forum pages that i find the topic i was looking for.

2) On the journal forum, i started a new topic and i dont want to start a new topic every time i make a post. so i was thinking of posting all my posts under 1 journal subject post i created. does this make sense? is this going to help keep things in order and maximize my benefits?

3) What is the difference between the journal and field report forum and what do i post under each to avoid confusing myself?

4) Can you give ne some advice as to how to do my field reports and journals so later on when i look back, i can easily navigate, learn and have my writing look great?

5) Could you do an article on "How to write field reports and journals" thanks if you dont completely oppose that idea!
I think this is a silly question but im not sure of the answer so ill ask:

Should i post my improvements, goals and self analysis in the journal forum?

or...

Should i post my self anaysis and improvements in the field reports forum?

Thanks Chase

Troy

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Troy-

This article isn't dealing with street; as noted at the very beginning of the piece, it's for social venues.

Reopening you can't use with street for obvious reasons - it's a "static venue only" technique, where you're staying in one place, and the girl likely is too, and you'll just try to meet her again later.

You can open a lot on street, but that won't really be "shotgun" opening, since you're not working through a crowd - your opening on street is by necessity going to be fairly targeted.

I have noted down on the article queue a comprehensive "how to" on street, yes - so, that one's already coming. Re: requests, these are good and useful so long as a guy isn't repeatedly requesting the same thing over and over again. Other than that, requests are welcome.

On forums - there's nothing with a list other than the current forum setup. If you're looking for a certain guy's posts, it's probably more useful to go to his profile and click on the "Search posts" button - click his name on the boards or find him on the member list.

With journals, yes, you'll want to make later posts in the same thread; no sense crowding the board with a bunch of separate posts all by the same person. Field reports is for specific outings; if you'll more be chronicling your progress, journals are better. See this link for more: Descriptions of Each Board. On formatting, I'd advise checking out some of the other guys' threads and seeing what appeals most to you… I've never kept a journal myself, so couldn't give you any advice there; that board is there because many guys seem to like journals, and yes, that's for self-analysis. Field Reports is only for field reports; everything else about chronicling your journal goes on Journals.

Basically, look around - all the answers you're searching for are already there, if you take a moment to look.

Chase

Danny's picture

Dear Chase,

So I read your article on Conspicuous Consumption. I have to say it is spot on!
http://www.girlschase.com/content/how-conspicuous-consumption-helps-men-...

I also found another video posted by Vitaly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve46peMWU5w

MANY people disagree on Vitaly's videos, especially feminists. Feminists claimed that those videos regarding to Gold Diggers are fake. I am a big believer for being a skeptic b4 I see evident and truths. Thus, below are the links I found to proves the validity and realness of Vitaly.

Here are the links to prove the realness of Vitaly, it's reported on the news:
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlhCvi8FWHU
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ZQSQuo3fc

Good job Chase, for informing everything (the TRUTHS) to the surface.....I am just a bit disappointed to the reality. Reality is gray, not black and white.

Happy 2014!

Yink's picture

Hi Chase,great article right there.I have been reviewing where I've been making mistakes with women(as you advised me last time) and correcting them.However a big challenge I'm having now is inviting women to my place.I am in college,my first dates are usually in a restaurant(informational date) and I try avoiding setting up second dates in restaurants also(to avoid the boyfriend candidate) but I don't know the BEST way to tell women to come to my place.Sometimes I tell them to come over so that I can cook for them but most of them end up flaking.I have read your article on date compression but I can't find a solution there.How can I invite a girl to my place without making her flake or feel suspicious of my intentions?

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Yink-

If a woman's "suspicious of your intentions", that should throw a red flag in the air for you that you've been running your interactions wrong.

What you want is for a woman to know EXACTLY why she's being invited back to your place... to spend some romantic time with you, and very possibly to mate. You usually don't want to spell it out for her completely - you want her a little unsure of whether you will deliver on the promise or not - but you want her believing and hoping that sex is not long to occur.

If you're worried about coming across as "suspicious", that says that you've most likely been playing "hide the banana" around women - that is, you're trying to conceal your interest and pose as someone who's merely just a friend. When you go this route, yes, inviting women over to your place looks suspicious - because platonic friends don't get together one-on-one in private places for uncertain reasons. It's just weird.

My advice would be to start really working on ramping up the sexuality in your interactions. Check out these articles on creating the right vibe again:

... and these on touch:

The object isn't to hide your intentions and sneak your way into bed with a girl... that never works (and the few times it seems to work, the girl knows what you're doing, but isn't going to raise a stink because she wants it too, and if you're a little scared about being straight about it, well, nobody's perfect, she figures).

Instead, you want her to know why she's going with you: because she's having an amazing time with you, and it's time to take things to the next level.

Chase

Balla's picture

Chase!, this is the same game that tariq nasheed talked about, he calls it "grenade mackin'" Where you talk to every attractive girl in the club and reopen her. I only listen to you two for advice and I can see why, could you be so kind and look him up and tell me based off his pics should I emulate what you see? He's on youtube and he has a talk show where he spits game (go towards the 20-30 min mark to hear the game), but mostly I'd like to know what do you think of his style, body language, etc. He has a video on youtube called, (tariq nasheed how to approach women in the club) I feel that's the best vid so you can kinda see his game and mannerisms. I just want you to show me what he does right from his voice, facial hair, haircut, clothes, body language, so I can know what to copy from him. I really appreciate that.

I have a few quick questions though. The first being about liquid confidence, honestly I have my best nights when im on the far level of tipsey, im almost drunk but im not going crazy and im mostly in control. I don't want to depend on it as a crutch though, should I just run game sober, or can I still drink and use my liquid confidence?

On approaching, I've read the approach anxiety articles countless times and I know you're going to say bite the bullet, but idk why it feels so easy to me when I think about it, but when I'm in the situation im like, this is impossible, nobody does this and she'll get creeped out, I have the most confidence about it before hand and after I leave, but when Im in the situation it becomes impossible for me to do. What can I do to not make this damn thing not such a big deal? I hate this shit.

Last, I love your website to death, but I feel so much more free whem in not constantly reading and thinking about women. I felt that that was all I ever think about and I have to focus on other things. Im in kind of a catch 22, its like I feel better focusing on other things but girls, but how am I going to have great game falling behind missing articles when I take my breaks?
How long should my breaks be?

Thanks brother, you're cool as hell.

Balla's picture

Chase I know you're not into mainstream rap anymore, but im trying to find a nice medium, which is be sexy for the ladies but look hard for everyone else. How can I do that?

When I rap should I be rapping faster or should I rap slow, like how you say we should talk what sounds good and should I make my voice deeper?

Should I have a very energetic vibe or a smooth cool vibe?

What else can I rap about that people would like? All you hear today is money, cars, bitches, drugs, guns.

Thanks

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Balla-

I'm knocking out replies right now, so didn't sit through the video, but if you want to know what's good about what a guy's doing and what isn't, a good exercise might be sitting down and listing out 1.) everything he's doing, 2.) how the girl seems to be responding to it, 3.) how the girl's responses change, and in what ways and what points in the interaction, and 4.) what he could have done differently with each of those points, and whether that would've worked better or worse. You'll probably come up with some things you're not sure on, but (especially if you're paying attention to the girl's body language) you might be surprised by how much you take away from an analysis like that.

Alcohol - depends where you're at. If you're starting out, I'd almost advise a slight buzz, just because you WILL have an easier time approaching, and you WILL speak more freely and be less tongue-tied. Only if you can do it in moderation, though - start drinking too much, and you'll really mess yourself up. Once you're getting decent and consistent results, I'd advise you to practice meeting women with zero alcohol in your system, just so that you know you have your stuff on lock and can perform without aid.

AA - nothing I can say that hasn't been said a hundred times already by me or anyone else. You're at the point now, Balla, where you've read enough material and heard enough perspectives that there's no more mental conditioning you can do short of doing the thing. You can psyche yourself up about lifting weights all you want, but at some point, you've got to force yourself to just start pushing metal up despite the pain and discomfort, even if you're dreading it all day long. Same deal with approaching, or anything else. At some point, words fail, and only action suffices… that's the point where you find out if you're a man who can take action, or if you'll wait around and watch other men succeed while you watch the time left in your life slowly but steadily erode away, one grain of sand in the hourglass at a time.

Breaks must be taken between reading to go do, especially if you get into a habit of inaction. If you're not going out and meeting lots of women, I think it's not good to read too heavily for too long, because otherwise your mind ends up having a theoretical battle where it's trying to decide between what it's reading in one place vs. what it's hearing from mainstream thought vs. what it's getting from another countercultural source, etc., and you have NO real experience to decide from. Check out Alek's latest article, he goes into exactly this issue, pretty in-depth: "The Art of Learning to Pick Up and Sleep with Girls."

I'd suggest letting your breaks just be natural. If you're going out enough, you'll eventually reach a point where things are clicking really well, and you start getting curious about what else you can throw into what's become a gelled, coherent process for you, to shake things up and get even more stellar results. That's where more learning from others comes back to the fore again.

Re: rap voice speed and vibe, I'd go with whatever suits you naturally. You can pull off slow and smooth (see: Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Biggie, Nas, 50 Cent), and you can pull off fast and energetic (see: Tupac, Eminem, Busta Rhymes). Generally, slower and smoother comes across more dominant, but people respect the wiry, energetic guy if he's skilled… ultimately it's down to skill. A slow guy with no skill just looks like an oaf, while a wiry guy with skill looks very sharp.

As for the content of your raps, I'd advise having a few club bangers with addictive club beats and repetitive hooks where you talk about the usual stuff, but also having a number of tracks that talk about social trends or other issues. e.g., Dre's "The Chronic" has some chill out songs like "Nuthin' but a G Thang" but also has social commentary songs, like "Little Ghetto Boy." B.I.G.'s debut album is similar, with songs like "Juicy" and "Big Poppa" to serve as radio hits, "Things Done Changed" as social commentary, and a bunch of other tracks that basically set him up as being badass. Tupac has similar mixes on his albums, with social commentary songs, radio/club hits, and credibility boosters as well. That seems to be the mix for a great album in Hip-Hop.

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