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How to Get Foreign Girls

how to get foreign girlsI'm a reasonably well-traveled fellow. I've lived on two continents and ventured around on four, with time spent in between on islands in the Pacific and the Atlantic. When you travel a lot, one of the first quandaries you come across is this: how do you get foreign girls who don't speak English?

Well, if you listen to most of your fellow travelers, you learn the local language. If you're in Russia, you learn Russian. Brazil, Portuguese. Columbia, Spanish. Japan, Japanese. After all, you can't very well talk to girls if you neither of you speaks the other's language... right?

And if you can't talk to them, you certainly can't get anywhere with them... isn't that also right?

I'm here to tell you it isn't. It isn't right at all.

And in fact, what you'll generally find is, the most successful guys typically don't speak the girl's language, period. The guys who know the language struggle with moderate success, while men who can't even say "hello" are taking foreign girls to bed by the bushel.

How's it work, and what's going on? That's the subject of today's post. So step right up and listen while I tell you a few tales -- some of my own, and some the tales of a handful of the men I've met along the way...

Chase AmanteAbout the Author: Chase Amante

Chase woke up one day in 2004 tired of being alone. So, he set to work and read every book he could find, studied every teacher he could meet, and talked to every girl he could talk to to figure out dating. After four years, scads of lays, and many great girlfriends (plus plenty of failures along the way), he launched this website. He will teach you everything he knows about girls in one single program in his Mastery Package.

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swingcat's picture

Thanks for the insightful post Chase.
Lots of the things you are saying ring true.

However, what you are saying here> "I will find the girls who like me as much as I like them... and then make it happen."

and here>
But these days, just from doing it enough that I'm adept now at reading women's signals, I'm able to largely sit back and wait for a girl I like who likes me too, and just get her.

In retrospect, I followed this approach for way too long and I do regret it. A few years ago, I used to go to a club, do one or two rounds and look for IOIs. Then, I would open a few of those girls that had just giving me EC or vicinity or some other AI. Strangely, I never got any overt IOIs or AIs from girls that I would rate 8 or higher. So back then, I always went for the easy lay. Obviously, gaming and bedding a girl that just sent you an IOI is a lot easier than cold approaching.
Only recently have I started to stop looking for IOIs and only approaching the hottest girls. Again, in my experience these girls will not send out IOIs, or at least not to me. Of course, these cold approaches are more challenging, but these sets will make you grow the most right?

You are pointing out a lot of limiting beliefs and I do mostly agree with you. It is absolutely counter productive to completely assimilate because girls love how we are different and how they can "educate" us. And picking up girls with a few learned standard phrases like "you look cute" is just lame. Given the choice to speak native level Chinese though I would not hesitate a second and I very much doubt that this would mak

RedpoleQ for instance does not speak a word of Korean or Japanese but has been very succesful at picking up local women. I think part of the reason he is so successful is not despite the fact that he does not speak the local languages but due to the fact that he doesn't.

However, he has completely adapted his game to these circumstances.

In my opinion you should work with all the given ressources you have to your best advantages. When approaching women here in China I speak English because it is much stronger than my spoken Chinese. If the girl I approach does not speak English however, I speak Chinese.

There are quite a few Chinese girls I know who ONLY speak Chinese and who told me they always dreamt of meeting a foreigner.
Out of experience I know that with nightgame you can pull girls without speaking a single word. What about daygame however?
And for nightgame, how can you go beyond SNLs without being able to communicate?
You mention leading. Yes, that is indespensable but how do you establish comfort or comfort? How do you non-verbally qualify? Maye you can post some examples orFRs, since you mention that you have quite a few of these experiences. I think this would be really helpful.

>Foreign guys who spoke the language and integrated were viewed as actively trying to get local women.

This might be a women's first impression here, so opening in English definitely makes sense. But I would actually feel a little embarassed having lived here for a couple of years and not being able to engage in communication. In terms of gaming, complete ignorance might help but your quality of life depends on a whole lot of other factors other than meeting chicks, like catching a cab, going to the grochery store, a basic level of independence.
So I think in terms of erradicating some limiting beliefs like "you have to speak the local language in order to hook up with girls" which is bs of course but in terms of practicality I would still opt for a more assimilative approach. Plus, even if you understand local culture and speak the language speaking the "dumb, ignorant foreigner card" works wonders ;)

regards,
swingcat

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Chase Amante's picture

Hey Swing-

Lots to reply to here. Plenty of good questions you have in this comment. Let me address:

  1. Targeted vs. Un-Targeted Approaching: could be a good post in here, and maybe I'll get one up on the pros and cons of each side at some point. There are certain benefits to straight cold-approaching without getting an approach invitation first, so I'm not discounting that approach at all.

    For me personally, where I am with my vibe and technique, I generally get approach invitations from the women I find most attractive, and there tends to be mutual attraction. It ends up making a lot more sense for me to approach the women who look best to me and who like me too than it does for me to approach women that are lower percentage hits and frequently aren't the girls I most want either. I still do, on occasion, if I'm determined to pick up / work on a specific skill / am not getting much interest for some reason, but I usually can use the more efficient method of approaching women who've already shown interest, and manage to meet girls I like who like me and save myself an average of a few hours of approaching each time that I can then put into other stuff, like working on my businesses.

    I'd say go based off where you're at. If you're not getting approach invitations from the women you most want to meet, continue doing large numbers of approaches and work on tweaking your style / nonverbals a bit to better interest the women you want. The really beautiful girls DO give approach invitations... but generally they're a LOT more subtle / shy / coy about it than the less attractive women, who need to be more obvious about it to increase their odds of getting a man.

  1. Succeeding Because of or Despite? Second time this week someone's mentioned RedpoleQ to me, actually! Guess the man's fairly well known in Asia. Sounds as though he fits the model of what I've generally seen works overseas. There may be foreign guys fluent in their local languages who post big numbers; so far, the only guys I've seen with large, consistent success though have been guys who stick with English. There seem to be some underlying reasons as to why this would be; but I'd certainly be open to hearing other viewpoints if you have examples of foreigners who are very successful with women using a learned local language. I'm not counting it out; just noting that I haven't seen it, and based on my current understanding of how women assess value, and from my own theorizing and from what I've heard from women themselves, it seems that confident men meeting women in the local language will tend to be at a disadvantage (contrary to what many might thing) compared to confident men meeting women in English.
  1. Women Who Speak NO English. I've met a few of these girls who don't understand ANY thing I say at all. For them, I generally will simply motion them to follow me and try to move things fast. They may follow; they may bow out. I suppose if you know the language, you can use it to some advantage there; I'd imagine for these girls there's also some degree of excitement about moving ahead with a guy they CAN'T communicate with. I don't really have enough data on women with zero English ability to comment on what's the more effective strategy here, so I don't want to start espousing stuff I can't stand by.
  1. Day Game -- Can You Pull Women Without Words? I've noticed when picking up girls who speak very little English that I may talk a lot and they'll smile and nod and then after we sleep together they'll tell me they really didn't understand anything I was saying before we got together. I actually think this makes it easier to bed a girl – she's putting in a ton of investment trying to understand you and keep up with the conversation, and effectively that puts her into the position of chasing.

    So I'd believe you if you said you pulled a girl who didn't understand you, but you talked to her and she just smiled and nodded the whole way back to your place. I suppose you could do it totally wordlessly if you had really good logistics or really strong initial chemistry. A lot of it really does depend on how strong her initial desire is. I don't do daytime approaching so much -- usually just if I happen to notice a really pretty girl somewhere nearby me and want to talk to her, I do -- but if this is something you're very interested in, can always ask some more frequent daytime-approaching friends of mine.

  1. Establishing Comfort / Qualification Nonverbally. This one's a REALLY fun topic, actually, and I'll try to get a post up on it very soon. There's a LOT of stuff you can do without words to make girls feel comfortable and special. Facial expressions and gestures come into play here big time. I'll have a post up on it next week; remind me if I forget!
  1. Long-Term Language Learning. The embarrassment thing is the effect of social pressure -- social pressure is what makes people feel embarrassed. Conformity pressures are actually very strong pressures, and they're pretty tough to resist for most people, so don't worry too much about it unless you have a really good reason. I'm very anti-conformist myself, so I actually bristle at people trying to push me into conformity, which is very helpful in not conforming when I so choose.

    For sure, knowing the local language if you'll be somewhere for a long time is very helpful. I'm still an ignorant foreigner everywhere I travel, so I've gotten very good at getting what I want without knowing a lick of whatever the local language is where I am, and I'm very quick about making new friends who can help me buy stuff for local prices and accomplish the things I need to accomplish. If you're planning to be somewhere long-term though, I wouldn't question you wanting to learn a language to be self-reliant! It's a good thing.

Whew, think that covers everything, right? Anyway, good discussion here, brother; lots of good questions -- hope I answered them effectively.

Now, it's off to finish my preparations for Mongolia with me.

Cheers,
Chase

Anonymous's picture

Does race apply to these steps? Or is it perceived as even more exotic

Anonymous's picture

I agree with what has been said, however you do need to know some basics thats where things such as short courses, phrase books or Luvtranslator can come in very handy

Dalaran's picture

Interesting new perspective Chase. I've been in paris for 5 months for study abroad. Met this girl in an aikido dojo. I love aikido and the people were friendly, so I get integrated into the group really fast. Somehow I "persuaded myself" to fall in love with this girl and her personality. Shortly before I left I decided to let her know that I found her really interesting. She was surprised and mumbled something about me leaving soon so it wasn't going to work.

Met her one last time for a drink. She was in financial crisis so I bought her the drink (normally wouldn't do that) At the end she gave me a long kiss goodbye.

I feel like I genuinely like this girl and would like to continue to pursue her over long distance. Do you think it's gonna work?

Also, I have the feeling this is the kind of serious girl who isn't up for sex on the first few dates and is very profound on the inside. So I decided to court her instead of game her. Would a girl like this be willing to have sex with me in the first few dates if I manage to get it right? Just wanna know, so I won't be wasting time in the future.

Keep up the good work man!

Aaron Guenther's picture

I can pick up languages very easily and quickly. However, I can converse in many different languages too. I'm very fluent in Spanish, for example, so wouldn't that be to my advantage if I already know the particular language in terms of getting chicas? After all, if I already know it, I already know it, right?

Frantic's picture

If you are in vacations in a foreign country, being a tourist can be seen as sex tourism... In Asia, the few interesting girls will run away if they know you are in town for a short time.

They will jump on if you tell them that you just moved here and you are here to stay. "I just moved here. I am staying at the Four Seasons until I find a nice house."

George H.'s picture

This makes alot of since Chase... now i understand why i was being ridiculed at my job(panera breads) when a group german girls came in to order and have been here for visiting or had just moved w/e, and i know a little german. so when they started ordering i had spoke about my past(lived in belgium) and my cousins in germany. and then i was speaking german later on when thye where seated to them cause i havent spoke it in awhile and they started laughing like hyenas! it was so embaressing i just stoped talking to them and walked away from there table! so to take notes i assume your article ''How Knowing the Language Can Hurt You'' would relate to this event?

-george

Vigoroso's picture

Swingcat.. I know Redpole Q very well, and he actually is very supportive of knowing the local language as a vehicle towards success in pickup. He speaks excellent Japanese (he's American) and knows basic Korean as well, in addition to whatever he picks up in his travels around Asia. I find this article fascinating, because it goes so much against the grain of what I've been taught and keeps getting reinforced into me.

I'm about to take three weeks traveling to Fukuoka (Japan) and Bali, and plan on running a lot of game on J-girls. I was about to bone up on my limited Japanese that I learned some years ago, but after reading this, I'm thinking about giving it a miss and seeing how it goes.

Thanks for this article, Chase.

mikeh71's picture

Swing Cat, Ignorance is usually not a good thing especially in a foreign country where so many locals have a lot of advantages over you. feign ignorance may work to advantage however. Just because you know a local languages does not mean you need to share that knowledge with anyone, even better you can understand what is being said giving you a slight advantage.

Anonymous's picture

I could have written this article myself, we've got quite a few things in common too, I think.

Just one thing I'd add when you say: "I'm almost tempted to say it's easier to bed girls who don't understand you".

I agree, but in that case, well, looking good and sexy is all the more important.
Words, a deep dive, a connection and a good personality can make up for some good looks, but in strong language barrier cases, well... You better be downright sexy :).

Velour's picture

hey chase,

im interested in traveling more and definitely want to meet girls when im abroad. however, when i have traveled and stayed in hostels, i noticed that the rooms were not very private and in one there were even bunkbeads.

im wondering if you have some insight about where to stay or what to look for in accomodations when in foreign countries, so that you have a place where you can take a girl and escalate with some privacy.

thanks.

Fred's picture

What advice would you give about a country like India where besides their local language many girls know decent to excellent English? Those girls from rural areas who don't speak it are probably off limits to a foreigner because they are super traditional. Getting caught having sex out of wedlock can get you killed too.

Which girls should I aim for? Rural or urbanised? Should I pretend I don't know English or Hindi with the urban girls?

I've lived 3 years in India without ever getting laid. :(
Maybe I'm just too ugly though (I'm bald but shaven short and only 5'8")

Adrian Adrian's picture

Chase I admire you soo much, as to say your a God to me and your words are my bible. I can totally relate to your words as if you have answered questions my subconscious mind have been wondering all along.

Coming to US and entering middle school, I can only look back at the excitement of my peers then, and how a girl even asked me out. And how genuinely not knowing the workings of my new environment got me a lot of special treatment, boy was it a lot of fun. Too bad I've incorporated it in my behavior that sadly as I rapidly integrated, people weren't paying me attention anymore. But guess what when I started working right after High School, my genuine ignorance, my genuine enthusiasm, my genuine politeness and genuine smiles, got me a lot of warm and friendly customers, patiently going along with my blunders (as I later learned from one of your article, it turns out people mirror each others feelings and emotions). But then as I was slowly criticized by my superiors to imitate their ways, I really broke down, they sure pressured me to conform. And if it wasn't for me saving my genuine cheerful personality, as I got pretty close to tossing it away in order to adapt to my superior mindset. I seriously would have gotten miserable like them. But thankfully I found support to my customers who gave me their sympathy (as they saw me being broken down by them). And does it turns out being your genuine cheerful self, showing humbleness can get you something in life, you just have to tweak as to not let yourself become an easy target to those who would ram you down, to build themselves up. And yes you do notice that once they get you closer to being like them, they will have the same expectation bestowed upon you, meaning more work.

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I do love the fact that mr. Chase himself is a lone wolf like I, and just like him he loves to travel, and meet new people. He too shares my value of being non-conforming, something that I cultivated in life early on, that currently I was contemplating to eradicate, but after reading this, I might be into something that is not a loss cause after all.

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Some thought's regarding the article made epic sense to me, seeing it for myself how it worked magic. As I always thought it was really disrespectful of American men, to go around our country speaking to women w/o even attempting to communicate in our dialect, but this one American guy I remembered, already had a group of 4 women, just melting in front of him, as he boldly asked for their name in English. And in their faces I could see an amalgam of excitement, adoration and joy. Now I see why not even my step dad who later married my mom, ever attempted to learn our language, as by default it was an after effect of Dominance, something that is closely conjured by his very high ego. A thing that is very sexy to women.

Being raised by my mom as a single parent, I guess it was blessing in disguise to have a father figure (my grandfather and step dad) who possessed an Iron fist mentality, the I don't give a sh*t mentality, as people with this attitude tend to usually get what they want. And if that means keeping women seeing you with a high value and desirability, that they can't seem to leave, even though they say they will (like my mom) then so be it. Taking this in mind, it just proves that women are subconsciously wired to see dominance as attractive. That putting it in action (like in the case of this article) can transcend through cultural barriers.

Although sadly in Anthropological stand point the english/spanish/french languages in itself has driven thousands of languages into extinction (something that is still prevalent today, resulting in an estimated loss of half of the worlds 7000 plus languages by 2050). And if languages are a carrier of culture, tradition and knowledge. I guess we just made our world a less than colorful and exciting place. New cultures, traditions and knowledge can be made, but I don't think you can replace it with something equivalent in my lifetime.................. yet again even if we do attempt to learn a foreign language we tend to pick a dominant languages anyway, so that's not really saving the other minority languages out there, as it makes sense to learn something that you can use in more places.

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But yeah, my idea of impressing my host when traveling abroad by mastering their local tongue, just got some serious reconsideration, specially when the goal in mind is bringing home a lady. Oh and I just realized attracting foreign women by speaking her language is a form you trying to IMPRESS her anyways, needless to say the reason why most guys loss a girls interest.

Your devoted fan,
- Adrian

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