Why Not to Talk About Game with Women

Robinhood-

Depends on the goal. If it's self-improvement, then absolutely: you learn more from girls who are more experienced than you than you do girls less experienced than you (particularly at the start of your journey).

It's generally a stabler relationship if she is less experienced. I'd suggest more experienced girlfriends to men toward the start and middle of their journeys, with a shift to less experienced ones as they reach their peak and begin to change their foci to other areas in life.

If you build up a lot of experience, that's a pretty natural shift, as the more experienced you become, the easier it is to meet women less experienced than you, and the harder it is to meet women more so.

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Anon-

Yeah, for sure! Psychology's a great and fun topic for discussion.

Just have to avoid the temptation to start a critique of guys' game or wading into talking too much about seduction... ;)

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Brandon-

Have you checked out this?:

Laid on Tinder

Even if a girl feels special or different, the openers are the same (as is the rest of the seduction). You may feel tempted to treat this or that girl different, but when you do that is when you tend to mess up most!

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Kalyann-

Well, assuming your attainability is in good shape, two things will happen:

1.) She'll become massively more attracted to you

2.) She will test the ever-loving crap out of you, and you'll hear about it forever

It's basically an attraction+drama amplifier.

If you mess it up and make her feel like you show the other girl too much interest, or she feels insulted, it can be all drama and auto-rejection. Or if she is not so emotionally stable, even if you are savvy in how you handle things she may react this way anyway. But if she's got a level head and you don't make her feel slighted, you'll get the attraction+drama boost.

Prepare to hear about it every so often so long as you stay with her. Followed by hot sex, assuming you handle the drama well.

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Lawliet-

Oh yes - that article. I'd completely forgotten about it. Good memory!

Sales book - man, I couldn't tell you. There's so many of them. Check out my recommended reading list here, I've got a couple of 'em on there:

Recommended Reading

I know nothing about selling insurance. Check out 80/20 Sales and Marketing, that's a good start point on those two topics and it was a pretty hot book in Internet marketing circles a few years back.

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SZ-

I think the rape panic is petering out, yes. For one, it's had far too many media-reported rape cases turn out to be false accusations (pretty much all widely-reported cases of the last 5 or 6 years have turned out to be false or grossly exagerrated). For another, people are getting tired of some girls crying rape every time a guy looks at them funny. But a third reason is that there are new moral panics emerging, and the public only has so much attention it can distribute among moral panics. 'Rape culture' is an old panic, it's largely run its course, and the emerging moral panics seem more pressing (which is always how it is; the ones going way aren't pressing anymore, but the emerging ones are crucial).

On the emerging moral panics, Milo puts it best on censorship / thoughtcrime here:

The pushback against political correctness comes from individuals tiring of being told what they can and cannot say, think, do, feel, or believe.

The white genocide panic we see growing is a reaction among whites in majority white countries to mass non-white immigration into white countries, a steep decline in white birthrates, and the non-assimilation / competing cultures these immigrants bring with them. Essentially, it is a moral panic based around existential angst; a fear of racial extinction.

It seems to be mostly triggered by the migrant crisis in Europe:

I suspect the ultimate white genocide moral panic in Europe will be much stronger than the one in the U.S., simply because the U.S. has let far fewer migrants in, and most of the immigrants in the States are better assimilated and want to assimilate. However this panic is spilling over into the U.S. too, where it's centered around the large numbers of illegal immigration from Mexico and Central America, and triggered by a spate of recent Black Lives Matter violence.

The fear of globalism is related to the other two. The sentiment is that media, corporations, and political elite have pushed to censor speech, ship jobs overseas, and open up national borders, the end result being a suppressed population that watches its jobs disappear as non-assimilating foreigners from wilder places sweep in to replace the natives, who've grown soft in their luxury. This moral panic is what's prompting the sudden rise of nationalism that's led to things like Trump/Sanders in America, the success of the Brexit campaign in the U.K., the Austrian far right party's too-close-to-call election, etc.

I suspect without the migrant crisis in Europe, people would still be grumbling about globalism but there'd be no moral panic about it. Nor would there be a white genocide moral panic. There might not even be a censorship moral panic - the censorship grew much worse as the media and politicians went into overdrive trying to spin or silence anything that had to do with Middle Eastern and African migrants to Europe.

So, if anything, these recent moral panics seem to be Europe-generated, and spread to the U.S. Which is interesting, because it looks like the last set of moral panics started in the U.S. and spread over to Europe (and were worse in the U.S.). This set's following the opposite pattern.

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Jim-

The ‘sour’ part is your expectations. You talk in ‘shoulds’, so I’d guess you believe sex SHOULD happen some different way (perhaps a more romantic, Hollywood-like gradual unfolding of interest and building love and chemistry?).

Whenever your expectations clash with reality, you have a couple of solutions:

1. Change your expectations to match reality
2. Change your reality to match your expectations
3. Push through and do things how you want to do them anyway

So for instance, you could train yourself to enjoy hooking up. Or you could move to a small town in a conservative part of your country where things do still happen slow and people don’t hook up fast.

Or you could elect to just run things slower, and the girls you lose, well, those weren’t girls who wanted what you wanted. The ones you get are the ones you’re looking for.

Or use a happy medium:

Having Lots of Dates in Short Amounts of Time

You needn’t love meeting, talking to, and sleeping with women if your goal is, say, one special girl, rather than plenty of sex with lots of special (or lots of not-so-special, your choice) girls. It’s only a requirement if you want abundance. However, you may find the skill sets, confidence, and charisma you build from a few years of loving women serves you well for a lifetime with that one special girl when you get her, much as the student who hates learning math in school ends up lucky he has it anyway when he needs to draw up a budget or pay his taxes.

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