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Girls have guys read too much into things sometimes. Or even
chase them around. The result? Women can become oversensitive to
“creepy” behavior.
In my first post regarding the lessons I have learned from gaming in the gay environment, a user named Agent asked the following question:
“Hey Alek,
Could you elaborate more on the creepy approaches vs. the good ones? It’s actually very interesting you were in a situation where you could examine the scene from a woman’s point of view. By the way, thank you for your reply in your previous post about approaching in day game! You mentioned very subtle approach signals from girls. I don’t seem to notice any except the very obvious ones. Could you expand here, on the subtle signs? ... Generally, I feel confident to approach when the girl is giving me strong eye contact and/or smiling. This does not happen that much often though.”
To give you some context, this question was posted in a thread in which I covered some dating and seduction lessons I learned from spending time picking up women in LGBT venues. In that post, I briefly mentioned how being approached by gay men in those venues gave me some perspective on how to better calibrate my own approaches to women.
I will start this post by sharing a story of mine, then I’ll discuss a number of things that make an approach good or bad. At the end of this post, I will sum up what makes a good approach.
Comments
Alek,
Alek,
So you never open withns compliment? I suppose you pull it off because you are highly sexual. You do not risk setting the wrong frame.
What do you think of testing the water with a pre opener and shoot a compliment if response is positive?
Liasona
No I rarely do. I mainly do nightgame - this post is a night game post more or less. In nightgame, women are already overly validated by men. I therefor do not want to validate them through the use of a compliment. I do give compliments when she has earned it, else nothing.
When it comes to opening - it doesn't matter whether or not I set the right or wrong frame - the idea of opening is to... open... to get a shot at having an interaction with her. The interaction is where you set the frame. If you can set a good frame right away, that's great, but the priority of an opener is to open.
The "testing the water" followed with a compliment (if you get a positive response), can work. I personally do not like in general to fight uphill battles where she thinks I am chasing her. I do not want to give her too much power. I dislike interactions where she is in power to dictate every thing. Simply not my cup of tea.
-Alek
This article is a good reason
This article is a good reason why men shouldn't approach women - they should let women approach them. I think being approach by women is a good art that men should work on.
Neal.
Neal
I agree with you that it would be ideal if women could approach us - but that is just not going to happen. There are many biological (in addition to social) reasons for that.
Men are sexually dominant - hence it is our job to make things happen - that entails making the first move. It has some pros and cons, but you cannot fight nature :)
I also wouldn't sit there alone the whole night waiting for a girl to make a move - because that may not happen - it rarely does. Especially not from hot women.
-Alek
Alek,
Alek,
Thanks a lot for the article! It blew my mind!
I was in Mumbai for a competition those past 2 weeks and I approached many beautiful girls. This was my first time approaching in a foreign country and it was thrilling indeed!
Anyway thanks again for this wonderful post!
Agent
Agent
Hey. Thank you for your comment.
I am happy this article was eye-opening.
And I hope you are having fun in Mumbai. Travelling around, experiencing different cultures is not only exciting but also good in regards to seduction as it forces you to calibrate to different settings. I have learned so much from travelling and seducing in different cultures - and so have many others here, Chase included.
Keep in mind that when you travel abroad it usually takes a while (depending on how experienced you are) to calibrate to the new environment. I personally need approx 2 days out to get an idea over the dynamic. But pay attention to the dynamic and be open to the idea that things may be different and try to figure out what works there!
Enjoy your trip
-Alek
Ah so
Ah so open without compliments, open with indirect, maybe a comment about the surroundings.
Matched with nonverbal flirtation to show your interest...
Example
Tell her
"Look at this...chair"
*Dripping with sexy and lust chin tuck look, like a Zack Efrons" XD
Her: What about it?
"It awaits for you" XD
or
"It is very...firm and well shaped" *throw some sexy look here ;)
Gotta love those darn bar stools...
And caveat: This is for nightgame?
Am I right?
Lawliet
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