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Tests, complaints, difficulty, and betrayal. It’s easy to see why some men think women are evil. But is what they do the product of villainy?
This is a sentiment we’ve seen various commenters, forum members, and passersby express over the years. That “women are evil”. They are bad, devious, snake-like creatures, not to be trusted. They are the Devil himself, in his most seductive form.
I addressed this to a certain extent a few weeks back in “A Few Thoughts on MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Ways.” However, I want to address it head-on in this article. If you have trouble believing any man could actually seriously think women are evil, here’s a comment from a reader named Neal on my recent article “You Only Get One Second Chance”:
“This is actually a good article on the evils of women. Ah well, I got banned from Chase forums for making these posts. They were deleted too. The irony though is that my articles were really good, and were deleted, but they reoccur in some other form by authors here.”
I’ll begin this article by stating that any man who places his trust unconditionally in anyone else than his mother or his father sets himself up to be made a fool. Friends may turn their backs on you, children may forget about you, mentors may give up on you. Women may leave you, scorn you, or humiliate you.
Which is not to say any of these people will do these things. Only that they might. There are plenty of men with friends who last a lifetime, children who serve them with filial piety, mentors who champion them ceaselessly, and women who never waver in their devotion to them.
But the men who’ve been burned, well, those are the men you hear from who stop by to educate you on how terrible the nature of this or that segment of the human population is. Friends are mere opportunists, mentors will abandon you, children are leeches, and women turncoats. They’ve seen the ugly side of things, and they’re convinced this is the true side of things. Anyone who says different is silly, naïve, trapped in childish delusions... or worse: a snake himself, slithering around sowing confusion so the party doesn’t end for all the other snakes.
In light of these opinions, in this article, we’re going to have a look at the nature of man. We will examine why men (and women) do the things they do, both in support of those around them, and to those others’ detriment.
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Charlie, got any examples?
Charlie, got any examples?
Because you point out wanting the sex part, I think you have right conclusions for the wrong reasons. So I bet your examples are going to be flawed. It's wrong to think women are evil because they won't have sex with you or are not attracted to you (attraction is not a choice, so men are in the same category).
"I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing…" —Ghostbusters 1984
Spoken comically by Bill Murray, this quote pretty much reflects my own sense of moral ambiguity around the topic of seduction, but at least it does so in a light-hearted way.
For one, I have made peace with the fact that I am myself an evil man (at least according to how many people measure the concept). I have betrayed my mentor and abandoned my father—at odds with each other, I eventually threw them both out of my life. I am also currently engaged in two affairs, both now spanning the better part of a year, and both women have grown very close to me in spite of knowing full well about each other (as well as my ad hoc lays here and there).
What is evil?? To me, it is a man-made contrivance that is closely tied to fear, designed to discipline children, and then limit their potential in adulthood. The feeling of "evil" keeps a horde of people hungry for validation (seeking reward for how not evil they think they are).
Speaking of mental models, I also happen to believe one's life tends to unfold according to how he/she chooses to see it—self-fulfilling prophecy is very real. This is as much wonderful news to some as it is dire news for others—those who refuse to see the positive side of the coin. Personally, I prefer to stand on the edge, dangling one foot on either side as I see fit.
In my own humble opinion, nothing is more important than your mental health. To that end, my main thought is to never look to a woman for consolation. Believe it or not, many will actually do that for you of their own free choice (and when you least expect it), provided you posses strong enough redeeming masculine qualities (dogged determination for one, usually proven tacitly with a strong, healthy body).
Women may be evil, but then again so am I, so that makes as even as far as I'm concerned. You probably are too to some degree—just don't know it yet…
-M
Good and Evil
Mischief-
Good quote from Bill Murray.
After reading a great deal of Confucius and Plutarch (not to mention plenty of Jesus when younger), I tend to hold virtue (or at least the pursuit of virtue) in high esteem. Defining what is and is not virtuous is the challenge, however.
Because “good” and “evil” are such fluid, subjective concepts – and yet everyone who uses them consider these terms absolute, and, conveniently, that they’re personal perceptions of good and evil are the universal absolutes, and others with different measures of good and evil are either misguided or evil themselves – it is impossible to ever be a completely virtuous man on all accounts to all people.
I’m half inclined to say the only way to truly be free from anyone thinking you are evil is to sit in a room and never come out and never interact with anyone. Go retreat to the mountains and become a monk, perhaps.
But then there will always be the guy who calls you evil for turning your back on the world. All men are good, and all men evil, to at least some men. The only thing that matters is who’s doing the judging.
At the same time, I think if you have a specific judge in mind you are trying to please, it’s possible to aim for an ideal of virtue that suits your own sensibilities. Societies work because they reach a consensus about what is virtuous and what isn’t, and encourage their members to strive toward their ideals.
Chase
A year late, but many dollars longer… :)
I was thinking more along the lines of what we ourselves think of as evil from within — self-induced shame. I could give a rat's ass at this point who all else thinks of me as evil — only that the right people think of me as will best suit the betterment of my own circumstances. If a woman seeing me as evil gets me laid, then evil is how I want her to see me. If it holds me back from a business opportunity, then I want to be seen as a man of good in that context.
Now for the million dollar question: what do you suppose is the ratio of 'good' men to 'evil' men generating quick arousal in women?
-M
About censorship (or the complaining thereof…)
Just bear in mind that this is a privately managed blog – not some public or government sponsored forum. Take this site for what it is and what that's worth (a LOT, in my humble opinion), contribute if you think you can, and/or just hold your peace.
-M
There was one part of the
There was one part of the article I was a bit unclear on.
The third part as to why guys think women are evil, where you mentioned how they despise weakness. What do you mean by this, as in how do you define weakness for men in this context? Showing emotions? Needy?
Thanks
you right about one things!
you right about one things! if you don't want trouble be a good leader and choose good female :P lol!
I just meet some girls, and she ask some help, and she said , needs money to pay some debt! and I said sure why not, as long you be my girl friends, I don't mind to help you out! , and then she being nice to me, friendly and bla..bla..bla! and then I meet her again, and I said, I want to go your place, and want to know your home, or even family! and she said, no! and I said, ok, I will not pay your debt! and then she up set, and grumpy and tell me that. I am like a kids or something! and then I said to her! do what I want, I will do what you want :) if not then I will find another girls!
moral story is, if they can't do what we want, then don't do what they want!
and it felt good! not so sure why! but I believe if we more dominant or better than our mate, the chances is, they will follow what we want, simple because they need us! otherwise they will leave! but even if they leave, it mean she don't like us! and why we should bother with her :) just go and find another good female!
I know its not easy, but it will be better for us if we winner side! i.e domination!
I'd rather stay single then,
I'd rather stay single then, and retain a piece of my soul. If a relationship is simply a game of domination, it is evil, and people who participate simply out of loneliness and horniness are the weak, deluded ones for trading ethical constitudedness for pleasure and an illusion of power over another. The only fault of the empathetic is participating like the rest and expecting different results. Empathy attracts women, however typically not a lot of money, so modern women are corrupted defacto by the capitalist economic structure placing her in a spot whereby her livlihood depends on choosing the sociopath guy who is materially benefited under capitalist directive, and the financially downtrodden empathetic guy who genuinely doesn't care about money or status. The soul quickly wilts from that point because they've chosen survival over idealism.
Most Women Today are Just Very Pathetic
Especially these pathetic loser women that like to Curse at us men for no reason at all when we will just say good morning or hello to them.
Expecting everyone to betray
Expecting everyone to betray you in a hyper materialistic society like America is logically sound. At the same time I cannot blame men for feeling women are evil.
I'll just get this out of the way: women are evil. The reason they are evil is that men everywhere have made excuses for them their entire lives. Either out of being beta, or alphas blaming the victims to either reduce cognitive dissonance that such a thing could happen to them or to go with the flow and continue sleeping with women. You are just as culpable in making women the way they are as the naive father who couldn't fathom that his little angel has had 100 cocks by the age of 16.
The way this manifests in women has to do with their nature. But any group of human beings who are never held accountable for anything will become evil. Morality is not inherent to nature, which only cares about maximizing entropy, it must be taught. The abstract benefit of a stable society where one can be reasonably safe also is not a convincing argument to people, as they have never had consequences and thus cannot fathom they could exist in the long term. Women hitting the wall are a good example of this: they see the wall happen to others and never think it will happen to them because of their naivete in believing the lack of consequence to be indefinite.
Individuals who choose virtue on their own are as rare as winning lottery tickets. And only a few of those are jackpots, or those who succeed in such an abstract endeavor.
Most women are like dogs. If you fail to train a dog at young age, it will piss in the house the entirety of its life. You probably won't respond, but I find the above sentence amusing because you would have to discard your premise of women betraying men because they aren't provided for and lead properly to disagree with it. Women must own their actions, even If I believe they are incapable of doing so, or this abundant utopia called the West will come to an end, as it is in the process of doing. The idea that women shouldn't be held accountable is as ridiculous as releasing every criminal who tells us a sob story about how bad an influence his/her parents were.
PUA BS
Another man controlled by pussy trying to rationalize why it's OK for women to behave the way they do in this supposed "equal" society. Ever been married champ? I get so sick of guys like you trying to be "alpha" lol. The fact that you are consumed with attracting women shows how little you are in control of your life. Like you said, you attract what you are. You deserve it champ, er chump.
Leave All Your Assumptions at the Door
Welcome. You're obviously new here. I'll bring you somewhat up to speed.
Alpha male:
Marriage:
This place isn't like anything you've encountered before. It's a bumpy ride, but it'll be a rush.
Chase
Rational Male bias…
Kinda sounds like a burned red pill guy to me, Chase, but I do half agree with his assertion that pussy chasing can be an unhealthy obsession for a man.
I would add She Must Never Become Your Mission to your list of recommended articles.
As living confirmation, this place truly isn't like anything else, it will be a bumpy ride if one takes up the task, but it is absolutely worth it.
-M
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