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Your initial approach: how you first start talking to that girl you really like.

Podcast with the Girls Chase Seduction A-Team: Lessons from Stockholm

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Welcome back to another episode of Dating Mechanics! For this podcast, I have something different and special for you. A few of us Girls Chase authors met up in Stockholm, Sweden this past summer for a few days and nights. We met up with each other (some for the first time), met plenty of women, both during the day and

The "I've Got to Wait for Girls to Meet Me" Thing

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Do you wait for girls to approach you? It may be scary to approach women yourself, but waiting for them to ask first is a losing proposition.

One of the members of our forum has talked about his strategy of waiting for girls to meet him, and then spitting game at them. It doesn't seem to work well for him, since he is perpetually single and has been hung up on the same girl for over a year, hoping every time she breaks up with a boyfriend that maybe she'll pay more attention to him.

Nevertheless though, he's committed. He ignores all the advice from every other member on there and from me that he forget this girl and go meet new ones. This is his strategy, and he's decided to stick to it.

I don't think there are a lot of guys who are 100% into this strategy of “I've just got to wait for women to come meet me”, like Neal is. But there are guys who slip into this some or a lot of the time. So we should talk about it.

Because even while objectively this is about as effective as thinking, “I've just got to wait for the money to come to me,” or, “I've just got to wait until a Ferrari shows up in my driveway,” subjectively it can feel like a valid strategy at the time when you're thinking it.

But it's not a valid strategy. It's a terrible strategy.

Tactics Tuesdays: "I'm Just Kidding" + Touch

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Want to walk back a mistake, or calibrate your sexual innuendo? “I’m just kidding” + touch is the perfect tactic to let you do so.

One of the most potentially powerful lines you can add to your canned line arsenal is “I’m just kidding”... followed up by a bit of touch.

This line plus touch lets you reframe all sorts of situations. It lets you rebuild attainability in an instant with girls who were about to auto-reject you. And it can amplify a woman’s intrigued confusion.

“I’m just kidding” plus touch was a crucial part of the old seduction community “Grand Master style” (which consists of extreme sexual directness with women, right from the opener... if you’re interested in this style, let me know in the comments and I’ll do an article on it). The tactic gives you an easy way to backtrack if a chase frame or sex talk goes a little sour.

Because it’s such a powerful tactic, there’s a little nuance to it. Get that nuance down, and you have an effective means to control the flow of a conversation and the flow of the emotions within it.

Calibrate to the Venue: The 3 Styles of Night Game

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Different types of nightlife venues require you to switch up how you approach new girls. The social, sniper, and fire-at-will strategies all work best in different settings.

Today’s subject is something I have been thinking about a great deal lately, something I have noticed that has had a great impact on the way I do things. I have been travelling a lot this summer – ranging from Stockholm, Oslo, Bucharest, to Krakow. As a result of these travels, I had to deal with different cultures, girls, and social codes. But what is of more interest is how I had to deal with new clubs.

A very common tendency for us night gamers is that we find a few spots we happen to truly like, then we refer to those as pussy goldmines. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this in regards to the actual “getting laid” process, but it can limit your learning curve. Being able to deal with different venues is key, and you learn a lot from it. This posts is about those lessons.

Before I move on, I want to make it clear that there are no perfect venues – all venues have their “shit factor”, but some venues are simply easier and better than others. I have written numerous posts on the subject before. I suggest you check out these links as well:

This post is more about how one can calibrate to different venues. Yes, different venues can require a whole different approach. I have discussed this before regarding big vs. small venues and chaotic vs. more chilled venues, and I concluded that chaotic venues will affect a girl’s state, which may make her horny from the get-go, but they can also cockblock you as a result of the many wildcards caused by the chaos. I have also mentioned how big, chaotic venues can make girls more defensive. You there have to either:

On a side note, smaller, more chill venues allow for a tighter form of game. Girls are more open as they are more in control over the situation; they can see where their friends are and do not have to be afraid of losing them. They also feel their friends are nearby and within their periphery, which creates a form of control. Additionally, as a result of being more relaxed and less chaotic, there are fewer wildcards. This allows you to go in more smoothly. Going in smooth is not something you CAN do, it’s something you MUST do, because as a result of people being more aware of their surroundings, a rejection can lead to negative social proof, as people can see you strike out. On a different side note, successful approaches can create a snowball effect.

Keep all this in mind throughout this post, as it will be key info for what is to come. I believe there are 3 different ways to approach night game:

  • Social game

  • Sniping

  • Fire-at-will

Different venues will allow for different modes. I will break each of these down, discussing what they mean, then cover which types of venues fit for each strategy.

What Energy to Approach Girls with (High or Low?)

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The energy you approach a new girl with can make the difference between acceptance and rejection. So should you go in high energy or low?

Hey, guys. Today we will discuss more practical stuff that can have a tremendous effect on your game and your overall interactions with women. Many guys believe that the difference between a good seducer and a bad one is some magical technique – well, usually it is not. The devil is in the details – and the small subtleties.

That is what this post (and last week’s post about using pauses) will help you with. This post focuses more on calibration. Good seducers are smooth and tight, intermediates are less so, and beginners, well, you get the idea.

So this post is about calibration, focusing on the nature and level of “high energy” you should employ when approaching girls. This is a topic with a lot of misleading – and often contradictory – information. Some claim you have to be high energy; others claim low energy is better. They are both right and wrong at the same time – it depends on the context. Either way, this post will cover the pros and cons of each approach and give you guidelines on how to make the tightest approaches.

The following 3 factors build the foundation for calibrating your energy level for an approach:

  • The social setting

  • The girl(s)

  • The phase of the interaction

Let’s begin by discussing the crucial aspects of the social setting.

Social Proof in Nightclubs: Jumps, Momentum, and Girl Circles

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Social proof is an exceptional tool to use in nightclubs, but it can be tricky. With jumps, momentum, and girl circles, you’ll woo women in no time.

After discussing some recent changes in night game over the last couple weeks (how nightlife has changed: part 1, part 2), I have decided to make another night game post. I am trying to inject some variation in my posts, providing a mix of analysis and techniques. I’ve posted a few cool routines and gambits lately, and today I will discuss more general strategies.

(And guys, do not hesitate to give me feedback and let me know what types of posts you prefer to read)

The idea of this post is to break down the idea that there is such a thing as night game. Well, yes, there is such a thing; it is all about meeting women at night, sure, but there are many VERY different night game methods and strategies you can employ to reach your goals.

Now, besides the obvious aspects, we need to consider the demographics of clubs, as in:

  • Ratio: how many men vs. women there are in the club – a larger ratio of men requires a more passive and safe approach, as more men will be hitting on the girls, which results in those girls turning up their defenses)

  • The type of people frequenting the club (the stereotype) – subcultures have different codes to which you must calibrate (think of an indie club vs. a hip hop club)

But the layout of different venues – how they’re built – allows for totally different strategies. Additionally, you can also pick up girls outside the clubs! Our dear Chase Amante has long been a fan of that!

There are many ways to approach night game, and some venues allow for certain strategies that others don’t. Some allow for multiple strategies.

Let us discuss one of the many ways you can approach the nightlife besides the typical “run in cold” and hook. Basically, that’s what I usually do; I go into a club, see a girl, try to trigger an approach invitation, and go straight for it, delivering my best game in order to hopefully get laid. Here I present a different way of doing it.

7 Reasons Why Your Approaches on Girls Don't Hook

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By: Chase Amante

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If you approach girls but they rarely or never hook, what’s the cause? There are 7 technical reasons why women may not hook.

Whether by day or at night, sometimes you’ll approach a girl yet it just doesn’t hook. Sure, there are the girls who aren’t into you. But what about the ones who open well, and feel like it should work... yet for whatever reason you cannot make things connect?

My usual suggestion for men who have trouble getting their approaches to hook it to improve your fundamentals... things like walk, posture, fashion, eye contact, and voice. The stronger each of these are, the faster and more reliably women hook.

Nevertheless, even men with strong fundamentals can run into this “girls I approach just don’t hook” phenomenon. They approach plenty of girls. But those approaches go nowhere.

So if you feel like your approaches connect a lot less than they should, this troubleshooting article’s for you: things to tweak to make those conversations hook a whole lot better.

Below, you’ll find seven (7) technical reasons why men’s approaches often don’t work.

If you’re doing any of these wrong, you’ll want to switch it up. Fix all the issues, and you can expect a noticeable boost in the number of women you hook.

Here’s the list.

Meet More Girls: 5 Keys to a Great First Approach

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There’s a lot to remember about meeting new girls. So what are the most important parts? Remember these 5 keys and you’re off to the races.

I hear it from so many different directions, so much advice littering the internet from the great to the terrible. I myself struggled for years with a plethora of different advice, good and bad, going day after day with seemingly no progress in the way I was approaching girls.

I felt like I was going through a haze. I struggled to see my mistakes and understand my wrongs. Women seemingly ran from me every chance they got, especially when it came down to the simple task of approaching a girl successfully.

Then, as time went on, I got better. I started seeing certain things work and others fall flat. Girls started chasing me off the open, giggling and blushing even.

In this article, I want to clear up the one topic everyone is constantly asking about. How do I approach a girl, get her attention, and get her liking me off the bat?

I have personally approached tens of thousands of women over the years, and I hope to clear up this topic for everyone once and for all. I will start with three common misconceptions. Then we are going to cover the five most important elements to a great first approach.

21 Signs She's a Psycho You Should Ghost on at the Bar

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How do you know a girl is crazy, and best avoided when you meet her at the bar? Look for these 21 signs... and keep your distance!

Talking about my article “8 Red Flags She’s a Crazy Girl You Should Stay Away From”, reader SZ comments:

I read the how to tell if a chicks crazy article, but it looks like if you kind of know her already, so if it’s a same night lay or a fast lay, no way to tell.

How can you tell a chick will be a problem from the first interaction, so you know she’s crazy right off the bat? How do you tell upfront ?

Good question. How do you know right away... when you meet her on the street, in a party, or at a bar? How do you know if she’s a potential danger to you? How can you identify the psychos – so you can weed them out?

As fun and liberating as hookup culture may be, there are plenty of folks who are off their rockers – and if you go out enough, you will meet them. Psycho men you need to avoid to stay out of fights. Psycho women you need to avoid for that reason... and for many more reasons. Psycho women may:

  • Manipulate you into fighting another man – psycho chicks often like to see men battle each other for their hands

  • Stalk you and harass you after sex – if you’ve never had a female stalker, you might think, “Eh, how bad can that be?” If you have had a female stalker though, you know it’s both kinda scary (you don’t have to be a big, burly man to sneak up on someone and plunge a knife in their throat; petite women can do this too), and it cramps your style in a major way (try keeping a high quality girlfriend while some psycho chick hounds you everywhere and contacts any woman she sees interacting with you to tell her made-up things to try and scare her off)

  • Slap you with a false rape accusationbetween 45% and 55% of men accused of rape are falsely accused by women; it’s an enormous problem in the West, and nobody talks about it (or is allowed to). While the odds are good her story will fall apart under police interrogation, and you will win the case, that won’t stop you from losing $10,000 to $100,000 on attorney and court fees, getting suspended or expelled from school, getting suspended or fired from work, and losing some or most of your friends. You don’t even need to have penetrative sex to get hit with an FRA; men who’ve no more than fingered a girl get hit with these, and sometimes a guy who’s never even touched a girl will get FRA’d

  • Just generally be an un-fun time – even if she’s not psycho enough to sick some meathead on you, follow you around and scare off other girls you date, or file a false police report claiming you raped her, psycho chicks are a lot of drama and can lead to some really draining nights out. Random crying fits, accusations followed by apologies, jealousy plotlines where she makes out with other men in front of you then gets angry if you try to leave, pulling you along somewhere you don’t want to go and then ditching you when you get there... these are just a few of the things I’ve seen psycho women do in nightlife

Caveat for the people who take things completely literally at all times: I’m using the term ‘psycho’ here in the colloquial sense of the word. I’m not focused on the clinical definition of psychosis. Though you’ll encounter some of that among women who exhibit these signs too. Instead, we are talking about crazy, nutty, outré behavior from broken people.

There is no reason to tolerate psychotic behavior from a woman. Unless you’re wildly desperate. Then I guess you may not be able to help yourself. But I hope if you’re someone who’s read this site for a little while, you are not wildly desperate.

Otherwise, there are so many normal women out there, who are just as hot (usually hotter) than the psycho chicks, and will not ruin or seriously monkey up your life. You want to find these girls (the normal ones), and screen out the crazies.

To help you do so, I’ve prepared a list of 21 signs to keep your eyes peeled for when you hit the bar, the lounge, the nightclub, the party, or the street at night, to make sure you don’t end up with a girl who’ll sour you on dating.

Instantly Connect with Women You Meet via the Use of Pacing

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A true observation about a woman immediately makes her feel like you’re on her wavelength. Use these truisms to disarm and connect with her.

Hey guys, and welcome back. So after having written 3 very practical articles, sharing some more or less advanced techniques – the last post being particularly advanced – I decided to give you something that can benefit everyone, including fresher players.

That said, the technique I am about to share, although simpler, is still very powerful (things do not always have to be super hard and complex to work like a charm). I am sure many intermediate and advanced players will enjoy this post and benefit from it.

The topic of today is about pacing – pacing HER ongoing reality. Now, what does that mean? Pacing is all about displaying an understanding of how it feels to be in her shoes, in her world, in her body.

Allow me to demonstrate with an example (more examples to come).

Alek: You know… (pause) … there is… something I find extremely fascinating.

Her: And what is that?

Alek: What it must feel like to be out here, surrounded by weird, creepy men, almost to the point of losing all hope of finally finding someone (point to self) who can take you on that adventure that rocks your world.

Her: True.

Alek: And yet here you are, still hoping for that one chance in a million that you will finally get to experience those adventures you truly seek.

The previous example may be a bit advanced, I agree, but do not worry – here is a simpler example:

Alek: I do find it interesting how the mere fact that standing here with that goofy yet tasty cocktail in your hand must feel classy in a way, and that every sip of that cocktail reminds you of good times – of leisure and freedom.

Her: -What-ever-

Now, in that example, I did not assume too many things, but I used a lot truisms, such as her holding a drink, enjoying freedom and leisure (club bars are known to provide those experiences). How can she really disagree with me?

I will give you more examples in a bit, but let us break this down.