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How to Be Persistent with Girls Without Looking Desperate

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It’s a proven fact that persistence gets you laid, but there is a fine line between being persistent in an attractive, dominant way vs. coming off as desperate.

Hey guys, welcome back.

Today, we’re going to discuss persistence and its limits. Persistence is a technique commonly used when facing resistance with women. It’s a good way to both:

  • Counter her resistance

  • Find out whether she is resisting or just not into you

The typical rule says persist three times, and if that doesn’t work, you should back off and consider her behavior a swing of rejection, unless she reinitiates on her own. Obviously, this rule should be broken if you face heavy resistance. You know, the type of behavior that screams “Hell no!” If you encounter those signals, you need to back off fully.

Persistence is attractive because:

  • It takes away the woman’s guilt about hooking up – she initially resisted, but you convinced her. This is a good way to counter anti-slut defense-related resistance.

  • It shows you’re a man who knows what he wants and is confident enough to go for it.

  • It displays dominance, which is also attractive.

There are a lot of misconceptions regarding dominance. Many guys usually confuse persistence with neediness. The line between persistence and neediness – which we know is death to female compliance and attraction – is a fine one that can be difficult to see.

So, let’s look at how to persist the right way without coming off as needy. Some of these points have been discussed before, but I always think recaps of key concepts, especially those which add different perspectives, are useful. Additionally, newer guys will benefit a lot from this post.

How to Get Laid Without Relying on Attraction

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Ever had sex with a girl you weren’t that into? Well, the phenomenon works both ways! With enough compliance, you can get laid even if she’s not attracted to you.

Hey guys, welcome back. Today, I’m going to get more theoretical to clear up a few misconceptions that I know many guys have and, more importantly, solve a common paradox many students of seduction suffer from.

We’re going to talk about “attraction”, one of the most common terms in this field, which often gets thrown around without proper definition, making it confusing or meaningless.

Today’s post aims to clarify the concept of “attraction” in a better way, which will not only help you make sense of it but also assist you when reading future posts on seduction.

We will also delve into the psychology behind it, giving you a deeper understanding of the human mind, which will assist you further in your future adventures.

The Journey to Become a Master Pickup Artist

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By: Tony Depp

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Practically anyone can go from sexless to seduction mastery if they do what it takes. But what does it take? Be ready for a long journey… but one that’s worth it.

One fateful day, I was sitting with a few roommates in my living room, staring bovine-like at the dull, hypnotic glow of the television. A news program came on about pickup artists. A coach was taking a group of awkward men around to various bars and parks, forcing them to approach women. The coach said that any man, no matter who he is, can learn to seduce women with skill.

 

What Does It Take to Master Pickup?

I ran to my room and googled “pickup artist” while the rest of my roommates picked at their teeth and turned on the PlayStation.

I discovered a whole community that existed in forums, where people discussed PUA philosophies. I read dozens of books like Mystery Method and Double Your Dating. I watched hours of video like The Annihilation Method by Style and so many others. I felt like Harry Potter when he finally realized he didn’t have to live as a muggle anymore – there was a land where magic was real, and with that magic, he could finally get a smoking hot, little pixie to do his sexual bidding. And so, I immediately… did nothing at all.

It took me a year of studying before I decided “enough” and moved to Montreal for the sole purpose of becoming an expert in pickup. Not because I wanted to start a business or impress people on YouTube. Because I wanted to date beautiful women. I didn’t just want to be good at it – I wanted to master it. I wanted to be a Jedi with women.

I went out seven days and nights a week for almost two years. And boy, did I suck at it. It was the hardest but one of the most critical things I ever did, and I don’t regret one tiny bit of that journey – except for that time I caught molluscum from a handjob.

My first night alone at a bar in romantic Montreal. I stood there in that crowded room, surrounded by beautiful people having fun – and pretended to be on my phone.

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Yeah, I’m just waiting for my friends. That’s it. Don’t look at me.

Then, after a few more failed nights of inaction, I actually tried approaching girls. Most of them ignored me or were outright annoyed. Some held up their hands, ushering me away. Others just pretended they couldn’t hear me. It was terrible.

A few weeks later, I started getting better reactions and even a few phone numbers. Then, on my 90th night out, I finally got laid.

Does Good Seduction Game Actually Work to Attract Women?

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Does having good game impact whether a girl will be attracted to you? Short answer: yes, if she allows it to. A few key factors influence whether or not she will.

It’s newbie question time!

Hi, Tony.

I’m very curious about predictable patterns you’ve noticed in women’s behavior that they exhibit immediately after you act a certain way towards them or use certain techniques on them at the right time. For example, after you pass their screens, get past their resistance, or qualify them at the right time, they stop controlling some of their attraction for you.

Their compliance threshold increases and they’re overall more open to moving forward with you. Just how much does this compliance threshold increase on average, and how long do you have to take advantage of it before it decreases? And have you noticed women saying relatively the same thing during this time? Do they actively try to build similarity with you? 

Hope that made sense. Thanks for taking questions!

Okay, I’m going to break this down from nerd-speak into plain English.

“I’m very curious about predictable patterns you’ve noticed in women’s behavior that they exhibit immediately after you act a certain way towards them or use certain techniques on them at the right time.

Translation: “Does game actually work?”

Yes, it does, if the woman allows it to. There must be some minuscule amount of attraction locked away deep in her heart. It may have alarm bells, locked doors, and security guards. If this is the case, it’s your job as the seducer to break in and steal it.

How to Attract a Social Proof Feeding Frenzy

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Social proof is one of the most powerful seduction tools there is. Use it effectively and you can attract a frenzy of women salivating over your chum.

You’ve probably seen a feeding frenzy on one of those shark documentaries. But have you ever seen a feeding frenzy of social proof? If you’ve done enough game in bars, clubs, and parties, you’ll have experienced this – or at least witnessed it.

There’s a guy who all the women seem to be chasing. Babes are pawing at him for attention. They’re fighting for his time, competing with each other like cats around a milk bowl. This guy has his pick of all the women. It’s like he’s a celebrity.

How does this happen? How can you make it happen for you?

The answer is both incredibly simple and beautifully complex. But any man with enough ambition and work ethic can make it happen. The key is social proof and pre-selection.

Long before I became the international dating coach Tony D, I was a local musician in a small punk band. Back then, I was still shy, introverted, and damaged. I’d always loved women, but I just couldn’t approach them or keep them around.

My neediness, jealousy, and lack of game kept me from attracting the women of my dreams. Except for one huge advantage – I was the singer in a band.

It was a fateful day that I discovered the PUA community. I saw a documentary about pickup artists on TV (back when people watched TV) and was utterly fascinated. They taught me so many concepts like abundance mentalitybe the prize, the three-second rule, push-pull, DHV stories, cold reading, kino, and so much more. But the one I could relate to my current experience was social proof. I decided to try it all out at my next gig. I wanted to believe.

The Compliance Pull: How to Get Her to Say “Yes”

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“Let’s head back to my place.” – a suggestion we wish girls would agree to more often. With this technique, you can drastically increase the odds that she’ll comply.

Hey guys. Today, I will get technical again. I know some of my posts may occasionally be a bit scary for beginners, but this one should be pretty easy to grasp.

It covers an issue many men struggle with, beginner and intermediate alike. Advanced players may also benefit, as they might not already use the technique I am about to share – perhaps they do, but they may like a recap or a new perspective on it.

So, here’s the problem we’ll be discussing: have you ever struggled to isolate a girl you like? Have you experienced difficulties moving her somewhere else in the venue, to a new venue – or, even better, back to your place?

In other words, have you ever had problems getting the girl to say “yes” to those yes-or-no questions like “Shall we go to the bar together?” “Can we go somewhere else? I know a place nearby with better drinks,” or “What do you say we go back to my place and continue this conversation with some good wine? I don’t live far away.”

If the answer is yes, then read on. The issue you are facing often relates to a lack of compliance. It could be that resistance is working against you as well. We will not discuss that here, but it is something you should take into consideration and read up on. We have many posts covering resistance here on Girls Chase.

Nevertheless, whether it is a lack of compliance (“attraction” is usually used instead, but I find “compliance” to be a better term) or simple resistance is kind of irrelevant because an increase in compliance – our focus today – can benefit you in every case.

Sometimes, if she is resisting, you can raise the level of compliance so high that you bypass the resistance. A combination of building compliance and removing resistance is the ultimate seduction weapon. I will also discuss how you can use this solution as a seduction technique.

Approaching Women, Pt.2: Mistakes to Avoid During the Approach

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Having used solid pre-approach techniques, you’ve caught the eye of a real hottie. Time to move in! Just make sure to avoid these momentum-killing blunders.

Hey, guys. Welcome back. So, last week's article discussed the typical mistakes men make in the moments before they find themselves talking to women, based on the misconception that “the game” only starts once you approach.

This is a fallacy that can cost you dearly. Women are, in fact, looking around at what is going on in the room. That means they are watching you. If they get a negative perception of you, opening (establishing contact with a woman) and hooking (immersing them into a conversation) will become so much harder.

Why would women pay attention to a guy who looks like a loser? You get my point. So, if you haven’t checked out last week’s article, you should do so now. It contains key information that shouldn’t be neglected, especially if you are a beginner.

Tactics Tuesdays: Build Rapport and Trust with Contrasting and Listing

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You can throw a seduction into overdrive by building rapport and trust with your girl. To quickly build rapport and trust, use contrasting and listing.

Rapport is something I’ve touched on before. It’s that nice, warm feeling you get just by being around a close friend you share some commonalities with, or a workplace colleague you’d trust enough to share the more personal aspects of your life. It comes from being understood by another person, someone who can communicate with you in just the right way, the way you like.

Charismatic seducers – confident and attractive men who ooze warmth – tend to build immense amounts of rapport at breakneck speed with the women they meet and seduce. They know how to talk to girls in a way that makes them feel understood quickly, and with great communication skills, the rapport builds faster and deeper, until she starts feeling like she can trust them.

These men will meet attractive women via day game, night game, social circles, or pretty much any room they step into. They’ll be able to turn a causal, five-minute chat into a deep, fascinating baring of souls, an intimate conversation that can stretch out over long periods. They will often end up back at his or her place, getting even more intimate – this time in the physical sense.

As I mentioned in my previous article on rapport, the more rapport you can build, the more she will feel like she can trust you. Trust and rapport are directly correlated with one another.

The women I meet often tell me some of their deep, dark secrets and remark that they’re surprised they’re telling me this… before going ahead and telling me anyway.

I’ve had women share their sexual fantasies, as well as intimate thoughts and experiences they’ve had, things they aren’t even comfortable sharing with some of their female friends, most of the men they meet, and even their boyfriends. These are women I have met via cold approach. I made them trust me, and you can learn how to do it, too!

It’s a great ability to have. Think about it – if a woman you cold approach trusts you enough to share some deep, personal aspects of her life with you, she’s obviously going to trust you enough to give you her phone number. She'll trust you enough to meet up later for a date, and she’s not going to feel weird about going back to your place.

In my previous article, I shared some tips and techniques you can use to start building rapport in your day-game conversations with women. Think of that article as a primer. If you haven’t read it already, I’d recommend taking some time to go over it before continuing.

In this article, I’ll be sharing even more techniques you can use in day game or pretty much anywhere you might find an attractive woman worth talking to.

Approaching Women, Pt.1: Pre-Approach Mistakes to Avoid

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What you do before approaching a girl can have a large impact on the interaction to come. Set yourself up for a smoother approach by avoiding these mistakes.

Hey, guys. Welcome back. Today, I will cover some fundamentals that we need to recap. After writing all this advanced material, I realized that there is never a bad time to go back to basics. In fact, the very word “fundamental” means something you simply cannot do without.

This post is fit for beginners, as well as more experienced players who need to revise – and trust me, they often do. I revise my fundamentals a lot, especially in periods of bad momentum when I’m not doing too well. At times like that, my fundamentals are the first to take a hit.

As I’ve mentioned in my series on hooking, it is usually opening and hooking game that take the biggest hits on your off nights. Today, I will cover some basic mistakes a lot of men make before approaching women. This is also the phase that guys struggle the most with.

Troubleshooting and fixing the fundamental mistakes that I make are key to getting back on track and wreaking havoc again. Taking some time to revise the fundamentals and creating an even more solid foundation is precisely what makes the difference between success and failure.

This post is about approaching. Those of you who are new to this may ask why I’m focusing on the time before the approach. After all, at that point, you’re not even talking to a woman. But what happens beforehand has an impact on the approach itself. This will make more sense as you read on.

Let’s get on with it.

How to Smoothly Reframe Her Objections for a Better Date

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Getting past a woman’s objections to sexual escalation can be as easy as showing you understand her perspective... then reframing it into something better.

Yes, it’s possible.

In this game we call seduction, it is possible to reframe, out-frame, and smoothly redirect objections in most of the situations or scenarios we find ourselves in, to better serve our purposes as seducers.

Now, before we get into the meat of this article, let’s have a look at what reframing is and point out some common situations and examples where reframing will come in handy, as well as the mindset you need to be in to use this skill properly. Once we’ve covered these necessary primers, we can get into the nuts and bolts of how to reframe objections to your advantage.

The specifics of this technique are fairly advanced, but intermediate seducers and even motivated beginners will learn a few things from this article. However, especially when it comes to the points on the right mindset for handling roadblocks and smoothly reframing objections, I would recommend coming back and re-reading this article later on in your journey.

Once you’ve handled your fundamentals and gained more experience with meeting and bedding women, you’ll be in a position to get the most benefit from this article.