Insights from the Mind of a Seducer
Tactics Tuesdays: Approaching & Opening Groups of People
You’re at the bar, or the mall, or the beach, and see a group of people.
You decide you want to talk to them. Maybe they look cool; maybe there’s a cute girl in the group.
Either way, you need to start a conversation… somehow.
How do you open when it’s a group of people?
There are two (2) ways: one bolder, and one more discreet.
Picking Up Girls from Bars that Close Late
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Last week, we discussed strategic choices where clubs and the general nightlife close early, around 3 a.m.
To recap:
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You must be bolder (more sexual and explicit, escalate the vibe faster, and screen out unreceptive girls). How much you screen depends on your skill level and how close it is to closing time.
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Long-winded verbal and social proof game that take time are not ideal strategies.
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You rely on the dynamics during prime time (1 to 1.5 hours before closing) to amp up things when girls tend to be more receptive. Use the plausible deniability from the club closing to leave the club with her (and her friends) to pull back to your place (or hers) or go to an after-party.
I won’t review further details from the last post since if you are reading this one and haven’t seen last week’s, it may mean that where you live, venues close late, and you are looking for ways to deal with later closing hours.
FYI, when I talk about late talking hours, I mean venues with closing hours starting at 5 a.m. to venues that never close.
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Warm-up venues that close earlier than the main venues do not count, although you can meet girls and seal the deal there earlier.
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Some cities where clubs close at 6 a.m. have after-hours venues that close at 9 a.m. or later (or don’t close). As you can imagine, the crowd is very niche with true party people. I enjoy those venues, but most people will be home before the regular clubs close. When most venues close and people stop partying there, that defines the “closing hour” where you are.
“Late” closing time is typically after 3 or 4 a.m. Most southern, eastern, and central European clubs close around 5 to 7 a.m. But some clubs in Germany open Friday and close on Sunday afternoon. As you can imagine, these are in Berlin, where there’s a niche market.
So, what is the dynamic of such venues?
How to Pick Up Shy, Conservative Girls Who Don't Go Out
The online world is filled with men declaring that all women are out there hooking up constantly, leaping from one man to the next, and that conservative women are unicorns.
The reality however is that the median American woman sleeps with a mere three men in her entire life. 42% of American women sleep with two or fewer men. 21% sleep with just one man all their lives. 6% die virgins, never having been with a man. Why then does it seem like there’s a non-stop sex party going on?
It’s because all these women who aren’t out there dating, partying, and sleeping around are invisible. They’re not on the scene. They don’t actively date much. Most of them have very quiet social lives, or barely even any social life. Most men who are actively dating women – using avenues like dating apps or nightlife – very rarely run into girls like this. Because, again, these women aren’t active in the scene. The smaller number of prolific dating women, on the other hand, are VERY active… and it is easy to run into them a LOT.
I wrote this article to answer a question guys have been asking me lately: namely, where do you have to go and what do you need to do to pick up shy, conservative girls?
Tactics Tuesdays: Romantic Disclaimers
Let’s say you follow my advice and do your best to move faster with girls.
Just because you’re moving fast is no excuse to not mind social rules. You still must come across socially adroit even as you break society’s usual rules.
One simple way to do this as you ask things, invite girls to things, and make your proposals is with romantic disclaimers.
A romantic disclaimer is any bit of language you use to take the edge off anything you say that might otherwise be a bit improper. For girls who dig you but weren’t expecting you to move that fast, it can make all the difference.