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4 Signs a Girl Can Be Picked Up THAT Night

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pick a girl to pick up that nightWhen it comes to picking girls up, the savvy man looks for signs she’s open to that. Which signs does he look for? Compliance, logistics, plus 2 more.

Note: due to a slipup in the posting order, we published Part II of this series on choosing the right girls to pick up first. This is Part I of the series – last week’s article comes after this week’s.


Hey guys and welcome.

Today, I’ll cover an under-discussed topic extremely relevant in settings when multiple girls are chasing or showing interest in you: How do you know which girl to choose? This may seem contradictory because you can select who you want, but you have factors to consider before deciding.

Choosing the wrong target can cost you the night and the lay. If you go out with the intent to get a girl home that night, selecting the right target is critical. (Remember that the meta in night game is same night lays because taking numbers at night often results in flakes.)

It matters little how charming you are, how much her friends love you, if the girl has to get up early, if she lives far away, or has a last train to catch. There are anecdotal exceptions. (Once, I pulled a girl who had a flight to catch in four hours, and I got her friend to bring her luggage to the airport so she could leave straight from my place to the airport.) We will not discuss these exceptions here because we operate (and should operate) with probabilities, and whatever offers the highest chance of success is the right move.

You often have plenty of equally hot and cool girls with cold approach in night game. It lets you move on from a girl with terrible logistics, which I usually recommend. It isn’t like she isn’t replaceable—she is! Because you do not know her and have only barely met her superficially, moving on to another equally beautiful girl is no big deal.

Remember to choose a girl to pick up and eventually commit; otherwise, closing time approaches, and all those leads you had may end up with someone else, have left, or become bored from your indecisiveness. The latter is important to discuss because it is easy to get carried away when feeling on fire and having plenty of girls flirting with you. What often happens is that the momentum keeps you doing this, and eventually, you go home alone.

It is fine to be social, flirt around the venue, and generate social proof, but you should “commit” to one of your leads at some point. However, there are right and wrong ways of doing this, and making the wrong decision can cost you the night.

So, we will discuss choosing which girl to commit to and how to do it properly while avoiding common pitfalls.

Is Criticizing the Friend Zone or Neo-Direct Harmful to Men?

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neo-direct criticismA reader claims our criticisms of neo-direct have given him approach anxiety. Were we wrong to criticize the friend zone and neo-direct?

Commenting on my article on a study about what sort of compliments women respond best to, reader “Anonymous dude” writes:

Maybe guys wouldn't be twiddling their thumbs and stopped approaching women, worried about what to say and how to open if you didn't come up with this arbitrary confusing "neo direct" concept that makes some guys too self conscious and puts them too in their head. Especially when people that you've hired from your own team open "neo direct" not going to name people.

Just saying there may be some validity in this neo direct concept since i've seen this pattern of guys opening women in very simplistic ways and getting sporadic results and eventually plateuing but it's not like you're showing how to approach effectively or what one would look like. Reading about this made me too concerned about whether i'm running ineffective game that's a waste of time that I stopped approaching almost altogether.

If you’re unfamiliar with the term neo-direct, it’s a term I coined two years ago to put a label on the “shoot your shot” philosophy so rampant in modern red pill, man guru advice you see on Youtube, in forums, and everywhere else. Alek Rolstad wrote a proper series on it, “The Trouble with Neo-Direct”, which you can read here.

This simplistic method is the 2020s analogue to the friend zone of the 1990s and 2000s – the conventional wisdom, no-skill-required tack every guy and his brother took and recommended to every other guy to take to try to get women.

What the friend zone was to guys back then, shoot your shot neo-direct is to men today.

But, is there some validity to neo-direct?

Should you ever use it?

And… have I harmed men by opposing it?

Tactics Tuesdays: Sexual Attractor Kino

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sexual attractor kinoGirls often do things to visibly attract men. Once you’ve hooked a girl, you can look at and touch these things to raise the sensuality of the seduction.

This is a tactic from the old school seducer Lifeguard, from back in the Fast Seduction days. It does a handy job at upping the sexual electricity between you and a girl. It communicates to her that you recognize and appreciate what she’s doing to look sexy. Then, it gets you touching her in these sexual attractor locations – which does excellent things for the seduction.

Lifeguard, if you’re unfamiliar with him, was a confident, muscular playboy who took his handle from his days lifeguarding as a youth. While still a novice he joined a competition with the other lifeguards to see who could bed the most new girls in a summer. Girls did not count if one of the other lifeguards had already laid them. Putting his seductive skills to work, he racked up 50 lays over a 3-month summer, winning him the competition and emblazoning his path ahead as a legendary seducer.

His archive on the now-defunct Fast Seduction forum is well worth reading if you’re curious to learn more. You can download it (alongside other legendary guys’ archives) here.

Today’s Tactics Tuesdays is not about a tactic Lifeguard shared on mASF, however.

Instead, it comes from one of the handful of blog posts he made on the small seduction blog he very briefly ran, long since vanished from the web.

When Girls Date or Sleep with You But Keep Dating Other People

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girl seeing other peopleWhen you start seeing a girl, but she’s going out with other guys too, what’s it mean? Does it mean she’s loose… or is this a totally normal thing?

One of those shocking things when you’re newer and first start getting success is the girl you just laid who keeps seeing you but, it turns out, is seeing other guys too.

Is she actually not into you? Is she a big slut? What the heck is going on?

It seems to go against the standard “female dating objective” MO: guys want sex, girls want relationships. Once a girl has sex, she should want a relationship, right? But if she wants a relationship, why would she be hanging out with other dudes still?

Well, there are some reasons why – reasons that may have to do with you, and others that may have to do with her.

Can Men Be Vulnerable in Their Relationships?

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vulnerable in a relationshipMen are supposed to be strong. Right? But not emotionless, either. As a man, can you be vulnerable in your relationships… and if so, how much?

A reader commenting on my article on firefighting problems in relationships asks about showing vulnerability in a relationship:

I made the observation that women are not terribly aware of all the little mistakes that you make in life, because they are also human beings, who make mistakes all the time, and who happen to be unattractive many times as well. Doesnt it make you much more "human" to profess that you, as a human being, are not super strong and super attractive, and super high value all the time, and that you also do struggle, stand up again, and keep trying?

Where is the vulnerability in your approach? Is it such a deadly sin to tell a women in a relationship, that you are not happy when she flirts with other guys in front of your eyes, and that it makes you feel insecure, because you love her? Is that really "weak"? I feel its much more a profession that you as well have feelings, and that if she continues this behaviour, you will not be able to tolerate someone keep neglecting your feelings. Isnt "strong vulnerability", where you are aware of your own unattractiveness and your own flaws, a much more self-accepting and self-loving way of pursuing a relationship/marriage.

I'd be curous to hear your thoughts man. Thank you!

It’s a good question. I want to handle it with some delicacy, because, well, it is a delicate thing we’re discussing here. Namely, how much can you set your heart at a woman’s feet, and how much can you not?

How vulnerable can men be in their relationships?

How to Choose the RIGHT Girl on a Night Out (& Get Her Into You)

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choose the right girlOut at night, you must pick a girl to focus on if you want success. To do so, pick the right girl, focus on her, and take care not to inspire jealousy among her friends…

Hey guys. Welcome back. I hope you are all doing great.

Today I’ll continue where I last left off last time in my article on factors that influence whether a girl can be picked up that night. I discussed why choosing a girl when out at night is crucial, committing to her instead of being a social butterfly who flirts with everyone.

When you flirt with everyone, you end up home alone with a burrito in your hand (literally and metaphorically). This applies to night game as you will likely open multiple girls and different groups and may get a few good leads. If you are on fire, many girls may be chasing you, which is good for social proof and your mood. The problem is, sticking with that for too long generates auto-rejection and makes you appear indecisive. If you are lucky, you still waste valuable time you should have spent isolating, establishing rapport (building a connection), and escalating the vibe to push an interaction further.

Eventually, you must select your girl of the night. We discussed choosing which girl to commit to (aside from looks and personality, which matter, of course. It’s subjective but should weigh in nevertheless). Choosing the wrong girl may cost you the night (if your goal is getting laid that night, which is the meta in night game as taking numbers is unreliable in this setting).

Some factors to look for:

Act Like You Belong and You Can Go Anywhere

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act like you belongYou can walk and talk your way into places by acting like you should be there. People pay more attention to behavior than you think – & less to credentials.

Once, many years ago, just a few years into my seduction career, I was in Singapore with a couple of friends and entered a nightclub. It was one of the higher end clubs in town.

One of my friends, a local, wanted to move into the VIP-only area. The girls there were much hotter, he said. The only problem was the narrow stairway into it had two large bouncers keeping guard – and the two were frequently stopping people entering to inspect whether they were in fact members or not.

“Just walk in with your chin way up like you’re a celebrity and are used to walking in there,” my friend said. “No one will stop you.” So my other friend and I marched in with him, heads held high, doing our best to look like modern royalty, and sure enough, a moment later we were picking up on girls in the VIP. They were indeed hotter (and friendlier) there.

Not long after that, I crashed a private party at a San Diego nightclub, rolling right past the bouncer checking names at the door, by walking up behind a couple whose names he’d just checked and acting as if I was probably with them. Since then, I have often toured through roped-off or doorman-guarded areas of nightclubs just by walking proudly in, chest held high, either ignoring the bouncers or, at other times, giving them a confident nod. Sometimes while in these areas I have looked out and watched numerous other people get stopped trying to enter as I’ve privately marveled at how I sauntered right in.

I’ve entered closed-off areas of venues, restricted beaches (though be careful with these; they can be restricted due to hazardous conditions), and even establishments that have closed down for the night just by walking right in like I’m supposed to be there.

Today we’re going to talk about walking right into places you’re not supposed to be.

Are You Just READING or Are You APPLYING?

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reading vs. applyingReading and watching material is great for the added tactics and perspectives. But if you truly want success in anything, you must apply yourself at it.

I got an email the other day from a former reader who claims he’s going to stop reading Girls Chase after years of readership because it’s been “extremely negative” for him and nothing he’s read here has “stood out to him.”

I’ve received thousands of emails and messages from men over the years who’ve told me how this site has transformed their lives. I know of what kinds of results guys get when they apply the material. I have also seen guys all across the spectrum, from guys who achieved just okay results, to guys who struggled to get anywhere – and I have seen the patterns among them, too.

When I browsed the email from this unhappy former reader, I saw all the familiar patterns I see among the guys who fail to get results. Namely, he spoke a lot about reading the website, and nothing at all about applying the material.

He did not mention number of women approached, or whether he’s done any approaching at all. He didn’t discuss his experiences deep diving, chase framing, using VAC or SAC, or his encounters during day game or night game (or even online). He didn’t mention owning any of the products (which are designed to streamline and target the learning process) or participating on the forum (which is designed to provide community support).

The entirety of his email was “I read a bunch for years, I didn’t get anything out of it, I’m not reading anymore.” Now, WHY exactly you would read something for years that you got nothing out of, I cannot say (personally, if I’m not getting something out of reading something, I drop that something in about 15 minutes maximum… but maybe that’s just me?).

Regardless, I think it’s worth stressing, just for other readers in a similar boat, the point that if you aren’t applying what you’re reading, you’re probably getting very little of the value out of it has to offer.

You must APPLY what you read to benefit from it.

Talking to Girls in Groups: Fun Gambits You Can Use

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girl group gambitsGirls in groups may seem intimidating. Yet with the right approach, groups of girls can be fun (and romantically productive!). So, put these gambits to use…

Hi guys. I hope you are doing well.

Today I want to continue discussing hooking. Hooking applies to all interactions, whether it’s day or night game. It is prominent in night game, especially heavier forms of hooking. The more complex hooking techniques in night game focus on attention grabs and stimulation. In day game, lighter hooking techniques, such as a few light assumptions, some intrigue, a light story, or rapport questions can do the trick.

In night game, you need more juice. Your hooks must be more stimulating because you are in a competitive environment that is more energized.

Another unique aspect of day game is that you are dealing with groups. Often, groups of three girls are common, but also groups of two (ouch, challenging to deal with for logistical reasons), or sometimes you need to work with bigger groups.

Now this may seem like an extra challenge, but knowing how to deal with groups can benefit you. When you handle a group properly, you can get your girl to like you more and win her friends over, making you appear more attractive and helping with your overall plans.

So, today, I’ll tell you how to hook groups and present gambits that are especially suited for groups.

The gambits do not differ much from my usual hook gambits. I just add a few tweaks. First, I’ll discuss “generalized” group hook techniques and move on to “individualized” group hook gambits.

Having Sexual Intercourse that Lasts 45 Minutes or More

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sex for 45 minutesCAPTION

Sex for 30 minutes, 45 minutes, or more should not be a backbreaker for you as a man.

But for many men it is.

Here’s a quote from a guy who had sex for 20 minutes, and considered that a Herculean effort:

Recently found the one, thought i had a big sex drive, until I really turned her on

And by god, she turned on

she turned on like a 1990 brand new honda civic

I mean like, jesus christ, 10 min in and I was fighting for my fuckin' life

After 20 whole minutes of grueling, internal screaming, trying my absolute best to keep it in, while thinking of the most horrible, gut wrenching gore i have ever seen just for that few minutes more, I finally made her cum

My arm, my hip and my legs all hurt like hell and I just layed down and fucking turned off like a windows 95

woke up 15 min later to her provoking me to do it again

 

And that's how I died folks

Many men commiserated in the comments with this guy. Some recommended giving women oral sex to deal with these more ‘voracious’ women. A few guys (like I was on reading it) were shocked at this guy acting like 20 minutes of sex was a long time or an achievement… however, another guy claimed that thinking 20 minutes of sex is NOT long “tells us you’ve never had sex before” and that “thrusting your pelvic for 20mins straight will burn your legs off.”

A lot of men really do think 20 minutes of sex is a LONG time!

The average duration of sexual intercourse is 5.4 minutes. This guy writing the comment above, who went for 4x the average length, was indeed something of a champ among the Average Joe crowd.

Today, though, I’m going to tell you how to have sex for 45 minutes, an hour, two hours, or more, without “burning your legs off” – that way you can give women the kind of deep satisfaction most men (who last far less long) will never be able to give them.