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When Women "Don't Count" Guys They've Slept with Before

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Some guys just don’t ‘count’ for women. They can hook up with them, date them… and yet, the guys still don’t count. Why do women do this, and how can you be a ‘doesn’t count’ guy yourself?

There was a thing I set out to do early on in my journey into seduction. I couldn’t then have put it into words. But I knew what it looked like. I wished:

  • To be a guy women pined for, instead of the one doing the pining

  • To be able to walk into a room and seduce the woman I wanted

  • Women to expect nothing from me yet desire me just the same

  • Women to be genuinely surprised if I chose to keep them as girlfriends

  • To be a man the normal rules of dating did not apply to

There are different ways to name this. One might be to say I wanted all the power in the male-female courtship dynamic. The power to choose, seduce, and decide. And sure, you could say that was true. But that’s true of most people. Most people – men and women alike – look for ways to increase their power in the courtship dance. They want to be more liked, more loved, more adored; to better be able to pick and choose the mates they want, and captures those mates’ hearts and minds.

Another way to name what I wanted, though, was to be a guy who ‘didn’t count’.

The phrase ‘doesn’t count’ can apply to lots of things. However, the way women usually use it when talking about men they’ve had romantic involvements with is to describe men they want to erase from their histories: “He didn’t count.” “That guy didn’t count.” “Oh, Jim? He doesn’t count.”

That was the guy I wanted to be.

The one who ‘didn’t count’.

Chase AmanteAbout the Author: Chase Amante

Chase woke up one day in 2004 tired of being alone. So, he set to work and read every book he could find, studied every teacher he could meet, and talked to every girl he could talk to to figure out dating. After four years, scads of lays, and many great girlfriends (plus plenty of failures along the way), he launched this website. He will teach you everything he knows about girls in one single program in his One Date System.

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1. How many guys do you think they do this for Chase? How many guys do you think women sleep under the rug?

2. Do you believe in the, if she gives you a number multiply by 3?

3. How can you tell a woman is lying about her number? And how can you tell what her number really is or close to?

I know there's an article for that, but I don't know if it includes when women lie about their numbers.

There's girls I barely knew that give me real low numbers, but there is no way for me to really find out if they're lying or not because I don't really know them or what they do in their spare time.

4. How do you get women to tell you about the men that don't count?

5. I'm assuming you would say these women aren't good enough for relationships, but when you think about it, doesn't everyone lie? How many women do you think will tell you the exact truth? How would you even get the truth out of them ?

6. When ribbing a girl about her admitting that she has guys that don't count. How do we not make it feel like we're pressing her about the situation ? I don't want them to be annoyed about it and think I'm making fun of them or outting them as a slut, I feel she might get mad and defensive, explain how we can work this into our favor.

7. What if a chick tries to say, "I'm not like that anymore and only do relationships now" what if she's still trying to force you to take it slow and not be a slut like she has with all other men ? I've seen women do this before, they admit they're hoes, but for you, you got to have rules to follow and it's different now. How do we beat this ?

8. How do we not get into the settle down relationship thing ? A girl might admit she's a slut, but she'll say something like, "you have to promise me you'll stay with me if we have sex, you have to tell me you won't leave me, will you leave me? Will you be my boyfriend? Etc."

It's like they have to know you won't leave, but I'm trying to fuck as many hoes as I can, I'm trying to sleep with a chick one to two times and move on, I want many different women, but I don't want to lose out on pussy if she knows I'm not gonna stick around, but I want her to know I don't want to stick around and I just want to sleep with many women.

How do we get pass this thing with women doing shit like this?

9. And how do we sleep with women and cut them off after one or 2 lays without having to deal with drama or anything? That way we can sleep with more women faster without being tied down. I'm at the point where I wait for women to leave me, I don't know how to fuck them and leave them when I'm done, I just wait for them to leave, but I need a sound strategy for all races of women I can just fuck and move on from .

Thanks!

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SZ-

Could be 1, or could be 100. It depends on the girl.

"Multiply by 3" - yeah, for some girls. Depends. You get a young girl who's clearly inexperienced and she gives you a low count, often it's more "multiply by 1.5x." As women get more experienced, then it gets more complicated. There is the confounding factor of "what do they want with you and how sexually open-minded do they think you are?" If they think you're not very open-minded, it could be much higher than what they're telling you. If they just want a one-night stand and think you're totally open-minded and a throwaway hookup guy, they'll still usually lie to you, but not as egregiously.

As for how to tell they're lying... aside from what's in the article on partners, and the article on telling lies, I have nothing more to add. Use what's in those, plus your instincts.

How do you get women to tell you about the men that don't count?

Be a man who doesn't count. That's the most reliable way.

Also, be totally and completely non-judgmental, pro-sex, pro-hookup, "sex positive", etc. The more you are these things, the less she feels she has to lose by opening up, and the more honest a picture you'll get.

I don't comment on who is or is not "good enough" for a relationship. I'd advise against dating the types of women I labeled "junk food hookups" above, but different strokes for different folks. Not every guy is a catch either. For every stripper or porn actress, there's some guy who's the male equivalent.

When ribbing a girl about her admitting that she has guys that don't count. How do we not make it feel like we're pressing her about the situation ? I don't want them to be annoyed about it and think I'm making fun of them or outting them as a slut, I feel she might get mad and defensive, explain how we can work this into our favor.

It's all in the delivery.

If she feels like you are just laughing at her, not judging her, you're fine.

If she feels like you are judging her, she'll resent you.

What if a chick tries to say, "I'm not like that anymore and only do relationships now" what if she's still trying to force you to take it slow and not be a slut like she has with all other men ? I've seen women do this before, they admit they're hoes, but for you, you got to have rules to follow and it's different now. How do we beat this ?

Standard LMR tactics apply here. See these articles:

How do we not get into the settle down relationship thing ? A girl might admit she's a slut, but she'll say something like, "you have to promise me you'll stay with me if we have sex, you have to tell me you won't leave me, will you leave me? Will you be my boyfriend? Etc."

"Well now we're talking about how good of a girlfriend you'll make. That's a pretty serious role. We didn't talk about any of that before. Are you a good girlfriend? How good a girlfriend are you? What about you is going to make me say 'God damn, this is the best woman I've ever had in my life, there's no way I can let this girl go'?"

Just keep grilling her and making her qualify herself to you. The more she does it the easier it is to sleep with her.

Don't promise. Just keep screening her. And answering her questions, if she continues to ask, with things like "Well those are some pretty good qualities... so I guess we'll have to see."

And how do we sleep with women and cut them off after one or 2 lays without having to deal with drama or anything? That way we can sleep with more women faster without being tied down. I'm at the point where I wait for women to leave me, I don't know how to fuck them and leave them when I'm done, I just wait for them to leave, but I need a sound strategy for all races of women I can just fuck and move on from

From this and the boyfriend questions you're getting before sex it sounds like you are presenting yourself as a boyfriend candidate. Which is going to make it a lot harder to move on quick from women without them getting upset.

I suggest giving these articles a reread:

Aside from that, I may do an article soon on moving on after a one-night stand with minimal drama.

Chase

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