Finding Girls to Approach: She'll Be Hotter with Clothes Off

Chase

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Writing this in response to Cam's post on Quality or Quantity?, where he discusses having a hard time finding women he wants to meet when he goes out and walks around.

Typically, as a man's sexual experience and confidence go up, his pickiness and standards go down. Take a guy at 200 lays and see what kind of girl he'll go for and it's almost anything; the guy at 4 lays looks at some of the girls the guy at 200 gets with and says, "Eww, GROSS!" But then he also looks at other girls the guy at 200 gets with and says, "Lucky bastard." The guy at 200 just looks at ALL those girls and calls them all "pretty."

Although, the interesting thing is, while more confident/experienced men have lower standards for flings, their standards for long-term mates remain immune to their confidence/experience levels. You want roughly the same kind of girl as a girlfriend at 200 lays as you wanted at 4.

Cam87 said:
Now I'm in the mode where I only want to talk and meet girls that I'm really attracted to. The girls that I can't help but talk to. Problem is, I don't see many, if any girls I really want to talk to on a daily basis. This makes day game hard.

No real question here, but curious to here your thoughts on this.

Some thoughts:

1. You will get some good out of pushing yourself to approach a lot and sleep with girls who are "good enough" or "doable," even if they don't exactly ring your bells. You'll get practice, experience, and you'll be ever more comfortable approaching and picking up and seducing new women. If you're already pretty good, it keeps you sharp; if you're not quite there just yet, it gets you improving, to boot.

2. If you're not seeing enough girls you're excited about, it may not just be a lack of looks - it can also be attainability. If you're not already pretty good with game, and you haven't had a lot of good experience picking up yet, it's easy to fall into not even considering women as sexual options (because your brain doesn't believe you can realistically get them). Here's something to try - read this article: Women as Sex Objects: Supercharge Your Game (one of my earliest on Girls Chase), then go out, walk around, and really imagine yourself tearing the clothes off, bending over, and mounting every girl you come across as you walk around in your day-to-day life. See what that does for your excitement levels. My guess is, they go through the roof.

A second experiment if you need more confirmation this is a mental thing and not a lack-of-supply thing: find a porn site with pictures of different women naked. Find the ones that turn you on. Then, cover up their bodies so you see only their faces, and imagine if you saw them walking around outside during the day wearing sweats. Would you be excited on seeing them? Probably not, for 999 out of 1,000 girls in porn.

Sweats are what you get on the street. The naked girl with a wet vagina you don't actually see until she's back in your apartment alone with you, clothes on the floor... and you'll be plenty excited then.

3. If you do all that and you STILL can't find enough new women to meet (you live in a town with, like, 3,000 people, for instance; or the demographics there are skewed way towards old people, or men, or whatnot; or, there are plenty of young women, but all of them are fat or really, hideously ugly), it's probably time to move. Maybe you like skinny white girls and the only girls in town are thick Latinas. Time to move. Maybe you like really feminine girls who wear skirts and do cutesy girly stuff, but you live in Sweden and the women are manlier Nordic Viking conquerors than the men are. You'll be happier in Eastern Europe or East Asia.

Hopefully this gives some ideas. In most reasonably-sized cities though, there are plenty of girls out walking around you may not be excited about on first seeing but you'll probably be plenty excited about having naked in your apartment. Try to keep that in mind when you're deciding whom to approach. Also remember that you don't have to date every girl... the more girls you're taking regularly, the more likely you are to have a really high quality one in the mix by sheer numbers, and the pickier about relationships you're able to be.

There's a lot to be said for careful target selection - I'm a big proponent, and you can really get amazingly accurate with it at picking out what girl you want as a girlfriend and GETTING that girl as your girlfriend once you're good - but when you're still learning, it pays to get yourself out there approaching a lot more and collecting new experiences and data points.

Just remember: she'll be a lot hotter when her clothes are on the floor.

Chase
 

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Re: Finding Girls to Approach: She'll Be Hotter with Clothes

Chase,

So it sounds like quantity will bring quality. This quote brought it home:

"Also remember that you don't have to date every girl... the more girls you're taking regularly, the more likely you are to have a really high quality one in the mix by sheer numbers, and the pickier about relationships you're able to be."

I think part of my problem is that sometimes I'm not all that curious about other people's lives. Typing that out makes me feel really selfish, but I have to admit it's true. I'm going to work at this.

I did read that article about viewing women as objects a week or two ago. It was an "aha" moment when I read that. Also need to focus on this as well.
 

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Re: Finding Girls to Approach: She'll Be Hotter with Clothes

Just a caveat to what Chase said:

When you sleep with a hotter girl, don't let her know you've been with women of lesser beauty if you want to keep them around for the long term.

I've made this mistake and the cognitive dissonance is really tough for the girl to handle. Her mind goes in a spin cycle that goes a bit like this:

He's been with that girl? Eeew gross!
But I find him so attractive? Why????
She's so ugly, what a loser he is, what a manslut!
Did he like her better than me, do guys really prefer personality over looks?
Why doesn't he worship me like the other guys? I'm a prize compared to others he got.
He's got hot girls before too...
I hate him!
Does he love me?
[Repeat the above.]


If you can maintain the image that you only go for quality girls, you can avoid this problem. Hot women can accept you slumming it down every once in a while, but only if you cut the girl very quickly and kinda cruelly, like getting out of bed and leaving right after you bust your nut. If you don't want to do this, pretend you did it. Maintain this image at all costs. It'll save your relationship if you choose to build one with her. You'll thank me later.
 

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Re: Finding Girls to Approach: She'll Be Hotter with Clothes

MonsieurLabrie,

MonsieurLabrie said:
I've made this mistake and the cognitive dissonance is really tough for the girl to handle. Her mind goes in a spin cycle that goes a bit like this:

He's been with that girl? Eeew gross!
But I find him so attractive? Why????
She's so ugly, what a loser he is, what a manslut!
Did he like her better than me, do guys really prefer personality over looks?
Why doesn't he worship me like the other guys? I'm a prize compared to others he got.
He's got hot girls before too...
I hate him!
Does he love me?
[Repeat the above.]

I agree, The cognitive dissonance part is really tough for a girl to handle. But i think this can be evade all together if you don't say anything about other girls.

Anyway, if you make a mistake saying it out, i am sure other girls, even the not so hot ones find it offensive to them. Generally, girls i mean.

Zac
 

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Re: Finding Girls to Approach: She'll Be Hotter with Clothes

@ Cam-

Cam87 said:
I think part of my problem is that sometimes I'm not all that curious about other people's lives. Typing that out makes me feel really selfish, but I have to admit it's true. I'm going to work at this.

That one's hard. I've always found people rather fascinating personally, so I never know quite what to say when guys ask me, "How do I get more interested in people?"

I do know a number of guys in game who really, honestly just like talking more than they like listening. That might just be the answer... get good enough at talking verbal game that you just steamroll girls into bed. Might be worth experimenting with - there are plenty of guys that do it.

@ M. Labrie-

MonsieurLabrie said:
Just a caveat to what Chase said:

When you sleep with a hotter girl, don't let her know you've been with women of lesser beauty if you want to keep them around for the long term.

I've made this mistake and the cognitive dissonance is really tough for the girl to handle. Her mind goes in a spin cycle that goes a bit like this:

That's a great point! It's a big reason why not to show girls pictures of other girls you've dated or been with unless you know they'll find them attractive. I've run into the same thing, with girls' minds exploding because they saw I'd slept with some girl less attractive than them.

On the other hand, when a girl's seen girls you've been with of equal or greater beauty (but not too much greater), it serves as a good check against her ever thinking you'd have a hard time replacing her.

Chase
 

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Re: Finding Girls to Approach: She'll Be Hotter with Clothes

@Cam
Perhaps I can shed some light on becoming interested in others with a simple quote which I found in a book by Dale Carnegie. Famous and nostalgic poet Ralph Waldo Emerson said "In my walks, every man I meet is my superior in some way, and in that I learn from him.”
This approach is fantastic, and is how I've lived my life even before I found this quote. Essentially, every person you meet has something to offer to your life, has some value to pass on to you, and in that, every person you meet can better your life, and that is something worth being interested in. Take this site for example, you would not have stuck around if these guys didn't have some value to add to your life, they are professionals so you value their words, but every person you meet has that same ability. Interested in all the valuable information, and vital opportunity others lives can provide to you now?
 

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I'm naturally curious about getting to know new people that I meet, which often leaves girls intrigued because they have invested their whole life story into me and I haven't given much away. If finding girls to approach is ever an issue, anywhere with large numbers of girls is a possibility. Malls, movie theaters, coffee places or anywhere. Even if you don't want to get to know someone per say, meeting just one new person a day can help get you into the pattern and find people more approachable.
 

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52 cards in a deck and only 4 aces....you gotta play some hands to get pocket aces. you need to play a lot of hands, to know how to play AA for the big payout!

fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
 

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I needed this right now. Literally just came back from an outing where every girl I saw didn't check my boxes. I will study the women as sex objects article religiously.
 
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